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  • Report:  #335916

Complaint Review: Red Bull North America/Creative Concepts Of America - Santa Monica California

Reported By:
- Roscoe, Texas,
Submitted:
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Red Bull North America/Creative Concepts Of America
2525 Colorado Ave, #320, Santa Monica, 90404 California, U.S.A.
Phone:
310-460-4686
Web:
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In October 2005, my husband saw an advertisement by a company named Creative Concepts of America, offering a business opportunity to purchase Red Bull vending machines. He very carefully checked out this opportunity and even conversed with Robert Sorensen, the legal counsel for Red Bull, who told him that the only way to get Red Bull Vending machines was to go through Creative Concepts of America who had sole rights to sell the vending machines.

My husband used his teacher retirement to purchase five (5) machines. After many delays, he did finally receive the machines in January 2006. Although CCA had positive encouragement that the machines would be easy to place and that they should vend 20-25 vends a day on average. My husband has been in vending for over 10 years and understands that this is in no way a guarantee of how many vends a machine would give. He ran into obstacle after obstacle trying to place the machines "we have a sole agreement with Coke, Pepsi", etc. He was able to place the machines at some hotels, a bowling alley, a commercial college, etc. However, the machines only averaged about 1 vend a day. In April of 2006, Red Bull canceled their contract with CCA. CCA then offered to buy back the machines at a great loss. My husband arranged to ship the machines back to CCA (CCA was to pay for half of the shipping, but they were paying the shipping up front). CCA was to issue him a check for $5000.00 payable within 24 hours from the receipt and inspection of the machines. The remaining balance was to be paid in equal payments of $200.00 per month per machine. The machines were received by CCA by the May 12, 2006 deadline that was called for in the buy back agreement. Red Bull had sent a letter saying that they "would entertain a buy back" but they would not commit to anything until after the May 12 deadline that CCA had given on their buy back. After many phone calls and a runaround, CCA finally wired $3000.00 to our bank account on or about June 8 or June 9, 2006. This was nearly a month after they were supposed to send us $5000.00. Shortly after this, we were not able to reach anyone at CCA by phone. On June 22, 2006 we finally faxed a letter to them asking what was going on...no calls returned, could not even get a "live" operator.

On June 29, 2006 we received an email from CCA stating that they were in the first stage of bankruptcy!!! There were hundreds of people all across the USA who had purchased these machines and a lot who "sold" them back to CCA and now they were going to file bankruptcy six weeks after they received the machines back? We along with hundreds of others filed police reports with the Ft Lauderdale Police Department (where CCA was located). The police report states this was "theft by deception". The FBI, the Secret Service and numerous other government agencies have been involved in this case.

Red Bull is denying all responsibility for this situation. They told the BBB that they had a "hands off relationship" with CCA. I have a copy of their redacted contract with CCA and it looks to me like they were supposed to have a pretty tight reign on CCA. I received an email this evening from Ilene Eskenazi, Esq who states she is general counsel for Red Bull still denying any responsibility for

the deception that Red Bull gave in telling prospective vendors that CCA was reputable and that to get Red Bull vendors, one had to go through CCA as they had sole rights to sell the machines. In this email, she refers to the vendors as

"Creative Concepts Vending Machines". The machines have the name of Red Bull on them, not Creative Concepts.

Hundreds of people have lost their life savings due to being mislead by Red Bull North America. One lady was a young widow who's husband had died suddenly leaving her with 4-5 children. She used life insurance money to purchase machines thinking she would be able to support her family. She did not even receive all the machines that she paid for.

I would think any reputable company would want to do whatever to keep their good name in the business world. Red Bull refuses to reach any type of amicable

conclusion to this matter.

Buggdbyndbelief

Roscoe, Texas

U.S.A.


3 Updates & Rebuttals

Buggdbyndbelief

Roscoe,
Texas,
U.S.A.
The amount we were Ripped Off by Red Bull

#2Author of original report

Fri, June 27, 2008

I wanted to add that my husband paid Creative Concepts $19.425.00 for five machines, product,theft and vandalism warranty and EXCLUSIVE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS FOR HIS AREA. Since we have never received payment for the machines, he will assert his right to his exclusive territory. CCA was supposed to pay him $11,000 to buy back the machines...what a bargain, huh. CCA did pay him $3000.00 before they came up with the idea of filing bankruptcy. In my opinion, Red Bull needs to step up to the plate and pay us at least the $16,425.00 we were out plus damages for dragging this out so long. They need to do this for ALL the victims.


Buggdbyndbelief

Roscoe,
Texas,
U.S.A.
conflicting addresses for CCA? Sunni Perez

#3Author of original report

Fri, June 20, 2008

Just wanted to add, in response to Lehigh, FL....there is a discrepancy in CCA's address....my info shows their address as 4300 N University Dr Ste A-106 Ft Lauderdale FL 33351 Sunni's name is Sunni Perez....she was Andrew Levinson's "girl Friday"....


Buggdbyndbelief

Roscoe,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Distributors not helpful

#4Author of original report

Mon, June 02, 2008

Andrea Gomez with Red Bull told me in an email "However, our authorized Red Bull distributors will continue to work closely with Creative Concept operators to help develop your new business, including assistance with machine placement and product" However, when we contacted the distributor he was very reluctant to help and stated "well the vending business is very competitive in West Texas" or something along those lines. He was very relieved to find out that my husband was going to sell the machines back and he wouldn't have to worry about dealing with a vendor. The distributors would not take back the unused Red Bull products, so we were just stuck with a lot of product and no way to sell it.

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