Turtleman
Vine Grove,#2Author of original report
Tue, February 24, 2009
After talking with my bank today and having my bank account frozen, UT OREM Submit Solutions is actually E-Harbor Inc. out of Orem, Utah. E-Harbor Inc./Submit Solutions says that they will not refund the $39.95 so I have to file a fraud charge against them in order to start the charge back process. Somehow, through more research, I have found out that Rezv and The Seller's Lounge are either sharing information or they are the same company ripping people off. Not sure which it is, but when contacted, The Seller's Lounge agreed to pay back the $3.87 in shipping, which was originally supposed to be the shipping for the Rezv anti-aging cream. It even showed up on our bank statement as $3.87 to The Seller's Lounge, not Rezv?!?!?!?!?!? E-Harbor/Submit Solution refused, saying that we signed up for The Seller's Lounge online. We never signed up for anything online...they (Rezv/The Seller's Lounge or whoever is scamming) called us.
Joe
Austin,#3Consumer Comment
Tue, February 24, 2009
YOUR WIFE DID THE RIGHT THING UP TO THE POINT SHE BACKED OUT OF THE SITE. MANY OF THESE SCUMNBAG INTERNET MARKETING COMPANIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOCATE YOUR ADDRESS BY YOUR INTERNET ADDRESS. IF YOU HAVE A DIAL UP; IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HARD TO GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER. IN FACT, THE LOCATION OF YOUR COMPUTER CAN BE TRACED BY SOME OF THESE GUYS AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME TO GET A REVERSE LOOK UP. NOW, WHERE YOUR WIFE MESSED UP. SHE ANSWERED THE PHONE AND TALKED TO THIS CON ARTIST INSTEAD OF ASKING HER HOW SHE GOT THE NUMBER. AND THEN, SHE SHOULD HAVE POLITELY HUNG UP. NEVER,EVER GIVE OUT YOUR FINANCIAL INFORMATION --AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER AND YOUR CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT NUMBER AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY CAN USE TO ACCESS YOUR MONEY --BY WHATEVER MEANS! YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET AND YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE PHONE EITHER! IN THESE DAYS OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY IS REALLY GOING OR HOW YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION IN GOING TO BE USED? DO YOU KNOW WHO IS REALLY ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE OR THE COMPUTER? HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE NOT A TERRORIST AND THE FBI OR HOMELAND SECURITY WON'T BE KICKING IN YOUR DOOR BECAUSE YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION WAS FOUND IN THE LAB WHERE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE MADE? THESE GUYS MAKE THEIR LIVING BY BEING NICE AND PERSUASIVE TO PEOPLE. THEY CON PEOPLE. THEY HAVE TO BE SMOOTH OPERATORS AND LIARS! I HOPE YOUR WIFE LEARNED A GOOD LESSON FROM THIS -- TO NOT GIVE OUT ANY INFORMATION TO PEOPLE WHO CALL. ALSO, IN SOME OF THOSE ALLEGED FREEBIE SITES, THERE ARE SPACES TO PUT YOUR INFORMATION IN -- YOUR HOME ADDRESS, YOUR PHONE NUMBER,ETC. USE A POST OFFICE BOX AND A FAKE PHONE NUMBER. EVEN IF YOU BACK OUT OF THE SITE, THAT INFORMATION IS CAPTURED. MAYBE YOU NEED AN UNLISTED AND UNPUBLISHED PHONE NUMBER OR A PHONE WHERE YOU CAN TURN OFF THE RINGER. AND ABSOLUTELY NOBODY BUT YOUR JOB AND SELECT FAMILY MEMBERS GET THE NUMBER AND IT IS NOT PUT ON ANY INTERNET SITE!