Justin
Sydney,#2Consumer Comment
Wed, December 05, 2018
This report is dubious and none of the things said I have personally experienced with SoA. Granted I took a bootcamp with them way back in 2012. It was a fair bit of money back then, and from what I've seen SoA no longer offers the course I did.
My own personal criticism isn't of SoA specifically, but of the industry. It isn't regulated and the requirements needed to be a seduction expert is your own self-proclamation. Granted, I have attended quite a few courses since doing the one with SoA.
RSD, Love Systems, Day Game Dating (no longer operating) and have purchased a plethora of products and dating books. Out of all of them, the SoA instructor's were the only guys who genuinely wanted to help me. If you are going to do a course, SoA is the best. And Damien is about as sincere and honest as they come.
SchoolOfAttraction
Sydney,#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, May 15, 2014
Please be advised that the author known both as Diabetes and Goundy (same individual) is a local competitor here in Sydney. He has never completed a School of Attraction course.
He was removed from a local forum due to complaints from numberous other members.
We have never used any type of pressure tactics on our clients, in fact we abhor that type of business behaviour and it's part of our policy to prefer to lose a sale than to pressure someone into parting with their hard earned money.
Diabetes Type 2
Sydney,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, December 09, 2013
I also attended a boot camp with the School of Attraction. The difference between the person in this repprt and my experiences though, is that I attended a boot camp with them 3 years ago. I was really dissapointed about Damien Diecke and his lack abilities in seduction. As the head coach of a company which claims to be able to help any guy get good with women, Damien Diecke's inability to show his skill-set was overtly evident when out with him. The problem with the money back guarantee offer, is that many clients are afraid to ask for it due to the type of person who even contemplates attending a seduction course. Back in those days I had chronic self-esteem issues and despite the services being sub-par, I did not possess the ability to ask for a refund.
Now though that I've matured, I understand the responsibility rested on my shoulders and accept full blame for this. The problem with SOA is they qctively target low self-esteem men. Let me assure you the other men on the boot camp were suffering from the same affliction as myself. What I will say is the company has an unethical sales and marketing campaign that uses pressure tactics in acquiring customers. I was approached by a sales representative consisting of a man and an attractive girl in Pitt st, Sydney, that shamed me into giving my contact details. Another boot camp student I was with, got cold called. How did Damien and his company get his contact details? Also Damien Diecke and his partner Diviya Nand have actively created a singles group on meetup, Sydney, and organises events under the ptetense of bringing singles together, but uses meetup to market their school. Damien also has appropriated the Sydney pick up website Sydney Sarge, and heavily markets himself on another pick up companies group on facebook, called "RSD Inner-Circle, Sydney." The lengths that Damien will go to in order to rip off men who are suffering from loneliness and take advantage of their situation financially is despicable. I suggest any person thinking about attending a SOA boot camp to think twice. Everything Damien told me and his coaching, can be acquired free online with a bit of searching. Don't be fooled by his claims of trying to discredit this report by claiming it is potentially fake.
I also experienced the same thing as well. There are cheaper and better alternatives than SOA. Ultimately think about the premise about the entire pick up industry, and the notion that you can trick women into liking you with a set of pre-established routines, or inner-psychology tricks to elevate one's self-esteem, is a ridiculous premise. Treating women like machines incapable of determining for themselves who they choose to date and have sexual relations with, is a form of objectification. Going to clubs or the streets with a "coach" to practice on women, is degrading.
Goundy
Sydney,#5Consumer Comment
Sun, December 08, 2013
I also attended a boot camp with the School of Attraction. The difference between the person in this repprt and my experiences though, is that I attended a boot camp with them 3 years ago. I was really dissapointed about Damien Diecke and his lack abilities in seduction. As the head coach of a company which claims to be able to help any guy get good with women, Damien Diecke's inability to show his skill-set was overtly evident when out with him.
The problem with the money back guarantee offer, is that many clients are afraid to ask for it due to the type of person who even contemplates attending a seduction course. Back in those days I had chronic self-esteem issues and despite the services being sub-par, I did not possess the ability to ask for a refund. Now though that I've matured, I understand the responsibility rested on my shoulders and accept full blame for this. The problem with SOA is they qctively target low self-esteem men. Let me assure you the other men on the boot camp were suffering from the same affliction as myself.
What I will say is the company has an unethical sales and marketing campaign that uses pressure tactics in acquiring customers. I was approached by a sales representative consisting of a man and an attractive girl in Pitt st, Sydney, that shamed me into giving my contact details. Another boot camp student I was with, got cold called. How did Damien and his company get his contact details?
Also Damien Diecke and his partner Diviya Nand have actively created a singles group on meetup, Sydney, and organises events under the ptetense of bringing singles together, but uses meetup to market their school. Damien also has appropriated the Sydney pick up website Sydney Sarge, and heavily markets himself on another pick up companies group on facebook, called "RSD Inner-Circle, Sydney." The lengths that Damien will go to in order to rip off men who are suffering from loneliness and take advantage of their situation financially is despicable.
I suggest any person thinking about attending a SOA boot camp to think twice. Everything Damien told me and his coaching, can be acquired free online with a bit of searching.
Don't be fooled by his claims of trying to discredit this report by claiming it is potentially fake. I also experienced the same thing as well. There are cheaper and better alternatives than SOA.
David, aka., Goundy
SOA
Sydney,#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Wed, May 15, 2013
I'd like to suggest that this report appears to be a fake for a number of reasons.
1) All of our coaching programs are backed by a 110% money back guarantee, an unhappy client only needed to tell us on the last session that he felt we didn't help him and we would have refunded his money in full plus an extra 10% to apologise for time wasted. We have never had a legitimate money back request made in 4 years. If the writer was an unhappy client, why didn't he simply ask for his money back, rather than lose the money and complain online?
2) Our weekend bootcamps don't include any lecture/class section as suggested in the report. These events are all practical, the only theory in these sessions is delivered in-field
3) Our weekend bootcamps all involve 2 night sessions and 2 day sessions. This report suggests only 1 day session was included.
4) If my ability to approach as a coach was called under question on a night, I would have been happy to demonstrate. We are very eager to help our clients any way we can.
Any men interested to work with us are offered the opportunitey to be connected directly with past students by phone to discuss their experience with us. Many past studnets are more than happy to talk to potential students becaue they are so grateful for the help we've given them. We have always been very open and candid about the results our clients recieve with us.
I am very eager to assist any client who is unhappy with their experience with us. If this client is indeed a real client, all they needed to do was email us and we would have worked hard to extend further help.
That help is still on offer. If the writer of this article can prove to us directly that they have indeed attended a workshop and they are unhappy I'd like to offer a free 4 hour in-field coaching session with myself the head coach during which I'm happy to demonstrate approaches and generally help in any way that I can.