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  • Report:  #1029718

Complaint Review: Superior Benefits - Champlain New York

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- wilmington, California,
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Superior Benefits
100 A Walnut D 15, Ste 740 Champlain, 12919 New York, U.S.A.
Phone:
866-554-0556
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UPDATE: Click Here to see how Superior Benefits contacts Rip-off Report to give REFUNDS to unsatisfied customers.

I can't believe this happened to me because I am one to know that no one will give me credit after I had filed bankruptsy. Yet when I filed even the attorney I had said I would be offered new credit. Anyways, I was contacted be a gentleman by the name of Paul Frank, who said he could help me rebuild my credit.

It was 3 weeks before Christmas and I was getting desperate and so I took a chance. But listen he never said he was going to take the money from my bank account, he said I needed to have in my bank account $299.00 in order to recieve a Visa card for $2000 limit. And he also reassured me that I could have the card by the 15th of December. That reason because it was my Anniversary on the 17th and I was really short of cash. My relationship hadn't been going well so I had to do something special,..Right! I blew $300, thats great huh.

Well I deposited the money that I borrowed into my bank and then I checked after a couple of days to see if the money had been credited to my account and there was 0 amount. I checked again the next day and nothing. So I had to tell my lady and she called the bank and found out that a so called "Superior" with the number 800-322-1189 and been paid the $300 on the 17th of December 2003, she asked if this was some kind of electronic payment or something like that and we said, but that we would call her back as soon as we found out what that was about.

So we called the number and busy, busy, busy for 2 days and finally got threw. The girl was rude and said they had the money and that it was being processed and that we would receive the card withing 15-20 days. We asked if we could cancel and she said not until we recieve the card then we could ask for a refund.

So we waited the 20 days and just yesterday my lady thought maybe we could find something on the internet about this company because we didn't know what to do next, but wait, we couldn't get through for nothing and all we had was that a number, name and a contract #524175 which was probably phony.

Luckily my lady found you guys after just typing in the word Superior. She was amazed at what she saw. I will definitly call my credit union tomorrow and hopefully get my money back.

If I do get it back it will be thanks to you guys, but if I don't - I will do anything I have to for these people could be stopped. It is really sad that our people can be so cruel and take from others and then and Christmas how low can you get. I hope all of who have been ripped off can do something to get these guys shut down. God will help us I know- I have faith in the old saying what goes around comes around and they will get theirs.

Raymond

wilmington, California
U.S.A.


7 Updates & Rebuttals

Raymond Butler

Wilmington,
California,
U.S.A.
THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO GIVE ME MY REFUND-I STILL BELIEVE IT WAS A SCAM, thanks to all of you at Rip-Off Report

#2Author of original report

Wed, February 04, 2004

I have received my money and I could only give thanks to all of you at Rip-Off Report/Bad Business Bureau. Thank you for the advice about how to to to my bank and filing the ACH form. They were very glad I sent them the copies of ripoff letters just like you told me to. They confirmed that this was all a farce and I probably wouldn't of recieved the card. I was sure lucky when I found you guys. I'm still in shock from it all. Thanks for all the help and I know now where to go to when in questioning a company. You guys are great!!! All that haven't received your money, if you go to your bank and file the ACH form and send them some ripoff letters just like I did you could get your money back in just a few days. My bank took 5 days and the money was deposited by the SCAM company, Superior. Good Luck and if you need me to confirm any of this for any court claims, you now where to reach me. Thanks again for the advise and educational teaching you gave me. I will never forget it and I definetly will pass it on. Sincerely,


Robert

Staunton,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Thank You Mike from Radford! unacceptable number of complaints

#3Consumer Comment

Thu, January 29, 2004

Mike from Radford is absolutely correct. I've seen other Canadian scams pony up with the refunds to keep the authorities from closing down on them. Even the infamous Ameri-source, World Wide Source empire of Pavlos Angelatos engaged in this practice. But I don't think it is such a bad idea for Ed to play along and get refunds for some of the victims. It won't last, but at least some people can get their money back. At some point the FTC and the Attorney General of New York, Elliot Spitzer, need to work on this issue with some sense of urgency. Even if you get a refund you should report them anyway as the only thing that seems to motivate the AG to get involved is an unacceptable number of complaints.


Mike

Radford,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
ED, you've been snowed.

#4Consumer Comment

Fri, January 23, 2004

I understand this is a delicate situation and you are acting diplomatically to try and get refunds for people. For obvious diplomatic reasons, you may not want to post this. However, your attempts to blunt negative publicity by portraying Superior's refund offer as a gesture of "good business" go beyond diplomatic reserve and into the realm of deception. The obvious fact remains, Superior Benefits' entire business plan is based on a rip-off. They promise a credit card with a limit of $2000 in exchange for an advance fee of $299. They cannot deliver these cards, and had no intention of delivering any credit cards. No bank will issue someone with bad credit a card with a $2000 limit even in exchange for a fee of $299. The bank then only stands to lose $1701 instead of $2000. It would still be foolish for them to issue the card. When Superior reacted to rip-off reports by pretending to be a legitimate business, they confirmed their plans. They did not offer to send credit cards to dissatisfied customers who had somehow "fallen through the cracks" in their customer service. They did not offer to send credit cards because they can't. They never intended to send ANYONE a credit card as promised. THERE ARE NO CARDS, and there never were. The whole scheme was a total rip-off from the beginning. It has been going on for years, different company names, possibly different people. Now they tend to hide out in Canada to make prosecution more difficult. As rip-offs go, this one isn't rocket science; anyone with a telephone and a list of people with bad credit can do it. It is natural for them to give refunds to those victims who become wise to the scheme. If victims dispute the charges with their banks, Superior's "legitimate partner" bank will start losing lots of money and eventually terminate thier business with Superior. Superior will lose the ability to ACH money out of victim's checking accounts. I'm sure this bank knows exactly what is going on, but is willing to look the other way in exchange for a higher than usual fee. Sort of like in "Scarface." Giving refunds also makes Superior look legitimate and tends to quiet the victims down. Even if the victims do report the rip-off to Attorneys General and other authorities, the authorities will tend to say "Well, you got your money back, so what's the problem?" Superior still has a pool of many, many potential victims who will not assert their rights and will lose their money. Since Superior's "product" is a whole lot of NOTHING, any money they collect is pure profit.


Mike

Radford,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
ED, you've been snowed.

#5Consumer Comment

Fri, January 23, 2004

I understand this is a delicate situation and you are acting diplomatically to try and get refunds for people. For obvious diplomatic reasons, you may not want to post this. However, your attempts to blunt negative publicity by portraying Superior's refund offer as a gesture of "good business" go beyond diplomatic reserve and into the realm of deception. The obvious fact remains, Superior Benefits' entire business plan is based on a rip-off. They promise a credit card with a limit of $2000 in exchange for an advance fee of $299. They cannot deliver these cards, and had no intention of delivering any credit cards. No bank will issue someone with bad credit a card with a $2000 limit even in exchange for a fee of $299. The bank then only stands to lose $1701 instead of $2000. It would still be foolish for them to issue the card. When Superior reacted to rip-off reports by pretending to be a legitimate business, they confirmed their plans. They did not offer to send credit cards to dissatisfied customers who had somehow "fallen through the cracks" in their customer service. They did not offer to send credit cards because they can't. They never intended to send ANYONE a credit card as promised. THERE ARE NO CARDS, and there never were. The whole scheme was a total rip-off from the beginning. It has been going on for years, different company names, possibly different people. Now they tend to hide out in Canada to make prosecution more difficult. As rip-offs go, this one isn't rocket science; anyone with a telephone and a list of people with bad credit can do it. It is natural for them to give refunds to those victims who become wise to the scheme. If victims dispute the charges with their banks, Superior's "legitimate partner" bank will start losing lots of money and eventually terminate thier business with Superior. Superior will lose the ability to ACH money out of victim's checking accounts. I'm sure this bank knows exactly what is going on, but is willing to look the other way in exchange for a higher than usual fee. Sort of like in "Scarface." Giving refunds also makes Superior look legitimate and tends to quiet the victims down. Even if the victims do report the rip-off to Attorneys General and other authorities, the authorities will tend to say "Well, you got your money back, so what's the problem?" Superior still has a pool of many, many potential victims who will not assert their rights and will lose their money. Since Superior's "product" is a whole lot of NOTHING, any money they collect is pure profit.


Mike

Radford,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
ED, you've been snowed.

#6Consumer Comment

Fri, January 23, 2004

I understand this is a delicate situation and you are acting diplomatically to try and get refunds for people. For obvious diplomatic reasons, you may not want to post this. However, your attempts to blunt negative publicity by portraying Superior's refund offer as a gesture of "good business" go beyond diplomatic reserve and into the realm of deception. The obvious fact remains, Superior Benefits' entire business plan is based on a rip-off. They promise a credit card with a limit of $2000 in exchange for an advance fee of $299. They cannot deliver these cards, and had no intention of delivering any credit cards. No bank will issue someone with bad credit a card with a $2000 limit even in exchange for a fee of $299. The bank then only stands to lose $1701 instead of $2000. It would still be foolish for them to issue the card. When Superior reacted to rip-off reports by pretending to be a legitimate business, they confirmed their plans. They did not offer to send credit cards to dissatisfied customers who had somehow "fallen through the cracks" in their customer service. They did not offer to send credit cards because they can't. They never intended to send ANYONE a credit card as promised. THERE ARE NO CARDS, and there never were. The whole scheme was a total rip-off from the beginning. It has been going on for years, different company names, possibly different people. Now they tend to hide out in Canada to make prosecution more difficult. As rip-offs go, this one isn't rocket science; anyone with a telephone and a list of people with bad credit can do it. It is natural for them to give refunds to those victims who become wise to the scheme. If victims dispute the charges with their banks, Superior's "legitimate partner" bank will start losing lots of money and eventually terminate thier business with Superior. Superior will lose the ability to ACH money out of victim's checking accounts. I'm sure this bank knows exactly what is going on, but is willing to look the other way in exchange for a higher than usual fee. Sort of like in "Scarface." Giving refunds also makes Superior look legitimate and tends to quiet the victims down. Even if the victims do report the rip-off to Attorneys General and other authorities, the authorities will tend to say "Well, you got your money back, so what's the problem?" Superior still has a pool of many, many potential victims who will not assert their rights and will lose their money. Since Superior's "product" is a whole lot of NOTHING, any money they collect is pure profit.


Mike

Radford,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
ED, you've been snowed.

#7Consumer Comment

Fri, January 23, 2004

I understand this is a delicate situation and you are acting diplomatically to try and get refunds for people. For obvious diplomatic reasons, you may not want to post this. However, your attempts to blunt negative publicity by portraying Superior's refund offer as a gesture of "good business" go beyond diplomatic reserve and into the realm of deception. The obvious fact remains, Superior Benefits' entire business plan is based on a rip-off. They promise a credit card with a limit of $2000 in exchange for an advance fee of $299. They cannot deliver these cards, and had no intention of delivering any credit cards. No bank will issue someone with bad credit a card with a $2000 limit even in exchange for a fee of $299. The bank then only stands to lose $1701 instead of $2000. It would still be foolish for them to issue the card. When Superior reacted to rip-off reports by pretending to be a legitimate business, they confirmed their plans. They did not offer to send credit cards to dissatisfied customers who had somehow "fallen through the cracks" in their customer service. They did not offer to send credit cards because they can't. They never intended to send ANYONE a credit card as promised. THERE ARE NO CARDS, and there never were. The whole scheme was a total rip-off from the beginning. It has been going on for years, different company names, possibly different people. Now they tend to hide out in Canada to make prosecution more difficult. As rip-offs go, this one isn't rocket science; anyone with a telephone and a list of people with bad credit can do it. It is natural for them to give refunds to those victims who become wise to the scheme. If victims dispute the charges with their banks, Superior's "legitimate partner" bank will start losing lots of money and eventually terminate thier business with Superior. Superior will lose the ability to ACH money out of victim's checking accounts. I'm sure this bank knows exactly what is going on, but is willing to look the other way in exchange for a higher than usual fee. Sort of like in "Scarface." Giving refunds also makes Superior look legitimate and tends to quiet the victims down. Even if the victims do report the rip-off to Attorneys General and other authorities, the authorities will tend to say "Well, you got your money back, so what's the problem?" Superior still has a pool of many, many potential victims who will not assert their rights and will lose their money. Since Superior's "product" is a whole lot of NOTHING, any money they collect is pure profit.


Raymond

wilmington,
California,
U.S.A.
Superior Benefits Prove to still be UNDERHANDED, DISREPUTABLE LIARS : EDitor's comment below

#8Author of original report

Thu, January 22, 2004

I e-mailed the company as was told to everyone who filed a ripoff report with this company. It took 3 days to get a call from them. A so called, Scott phoned me and was more interested in why I had filed the ripoff report than to make his customer happy. I told him all I wanted was a refund and he said," There is no refunds, we are not giving out any refunds, you will receive the card through the mail just like we said" He was rude, and he started to yell because I would not listen to what he had to say. I told him that if he called to tell me that he wasn't going to refund my money that he took unauthorized from my bank then I had nothing to talk to him about. I will just try to get my money back by other means. He slammed the phone and hung up. So this company must be a scam because they lied to the people at ripoff report. They don't care if your a happy customer or not. They just want to convince you that you will get what was told to you the first time they called you. Its a lie. Its been 45 days since I got that call and nothing has came and I prefer that nothing comes because it probably will be a card thats going to put you more in debt by high interest rates and more annual fees. SO BEWARE THEY ARE JUST LIARS go to your bank that is what I am doing. I hope I get these guys. They are true shysters and low-lifes at that.

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