I placed an order on Sept. 30, 2004. As of Dec. 3rd I have yet to receive what I ordered or get a response from any of the 8 e-mails I've sent. I truly wonder if they have any product to send out or if they just take people's money. my credit card was charged on Sept. 30, and I have now filed fraud charges. Beware this company. Conviently they do not offer a phone number anywhere on their web-site.