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  • Report:  #263981

Complaint Review: University Of Phoenix - Internet

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- Dixon, Missouri,
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University Of Phoenix
uop.edu Internet, U.S.A.
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I am trying to complete my education so whe I retire in five years I can get a good job and will be marketable in the World. Ihave taken 2 1/2 classes with U of P. It is ridiculous to demand that much class work online and group work that affects your grade tremedously.

I recently took an "elective" class that is at an undergraduate level. The instructor changed the syllabus several times before and after the class beagan. The assignments were not clear and the instructor "chastised" students for posting the previous assignment under the previous instructions, not to mention angry with students that posted assignments ahead of time.

Whoever heard of writing a thesis statement for an elective? Maybe I can understand this if a great portion of my indiviual grade did not depend on a group of people I never got to see and my participation would also affect their individual grade.

I withdrew due to extreme disgust with this class and a family emergency. I was told if I had withdrawn three days earlier I would have received twentyfive percent of my Montgomery GI Bill.

I was a Drill Sergeant at the time with precious few hours to myself and forfit my time and dedicated it to my education. Got up at 0300 (3 AM) and went to bed at midight, after spending two to four hours "in class".

I now have to pay back my whole class payment to the Army. I went to the Ed center where I am stationed and explained all this to them. I was told U of P is quite guilty of doing this to hard working Military Members that defend their very freedom. Speaking as a Soldier that has been deployed and will shortly deploy again, it is a huge slap in the face.

What can be done? Well, I supplied the Ed center with a statement and all the communication I received from representatives from the school. These emails, calmly and cooly explain that it is not their responsibility and I am to blame. I should have asked and withdrew fro,m the class within the first week. I then would have received my twentyfive percent back. Uh, the first week is getting to know your fellow classmates over the internet, not class work.

Is there any help out there or are more Military members going to be ripped off? I am sick of their advertisements and I wish I had done more research on the school itself. Is there any hope of getting my money back? What an expensive lesson to learn and loss of my benefits. I cannot enroll in another University or take another class until I pay the money back, which is garnished from my pay.

Colleen

Dixon, Missouri

U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

mrsnj20

United States of America
Standard Rules for withdrawl

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, November 24, 2010

Everything you described is pretty standard for college procedures. In semester and quarter based schools, you have to withdrawl after a week to get a full refund. Phoenix has shorter terms so you have less time to decide that want to drop the class. It doesn't matter what school you are going to, you will still have to pay the money back to the VA if you withdrawl from the class.

None of what you described is any fault of the school's. You need to read and understand all of the rules before you try to attend school and if you don't understand something, you need to ask for clarification.


Donald

La Crescenta,
California,
U.S.A.
Using GI Bill while on Active Duty...

#3UPDATE Employee

Mon, July 30, 2007

Using GI Bill while on Active duty can be difficult and confusing to say the least. From what I understand you appear to be an active military member in the Army. The question I have is why you chose to use GI Bill instead of Tuition Assistance? Were you trying to use TOP UP (TOP UP is a benefit that allows an active duty soldier to use part of his projected GI Bill money to help defray the difference in costs which exceed tuition assistance limits)? TOP UP is only used when there is a difference leftover AFTER Tuition Assistance has paid the majority of tuition fees. If you were taking a level 100 or 200 class, elective or not, that class would have cost $250 per credit with your military discount. Since the Army pays $250 per credit for up to 18 credits per fiscal year, this amount would have been within the cap and not qualified for TOP UP. Book costs do not qualify for use with TOP UP either. UOP has set policies to help out military members but they are limited to having proof via orders. If you were being deployed and presented a copy of your orders to the school, they would release you from your obligation to complete the class. Certainly if you had a family emergency, an accomodation could be made but it would not warrant you from being excused from having to pay for the class. I have had several students whose parents died or were in critical condition and they were still able to participate and turn in assignments late after notifying their instructor. As far as having to pay back the Army, the regulation that you electronically sign on the Army Education website clearly states that the Army will not pay for a failed or withdrawn course. If they deemed your family emergency to warrant exclusion then they would have probably paid for the class as well. I am not trying to discount your family emergency at all and I hope that the situation has turned for the better. It just sounds more to me like you did not want to complete the class. I certainly understand how it is to be deployed and fulfilling a duty and obligation to serve my country. As a Desert Strom veteran and former Marine I feel compassion for your argument from that sense. However, to be quite frank, UOP does more for military members than most other schools do.


Donald

La Crescenta,
California,
U.S.A.
Using GI Bill while on Active Duty...

#4UPDATE Employee

Mon, July 30, 2007

Using GI Bill while on Active duty can be difficult and confusing to say the least. From what I understand you appear to be an active military member in the Army. The question I have is why you chose to use GI Bill instead of Tuition Assistance? Were you trying to use TOP UP (TOP UP is a benefit that allows an active duty soldier to use part of his projected GI Bill money to help defray the difference in costs which exceed tuition assistance limits)? TOP UP is only used when there is a difference leftover AFTER Tuition Assistance has paid the majority of tuition fees. If you were taking a level 100 or 200 class, elective or not, that class would have cost $250 per credit with your military discount. Since the Army pays $250 per credit for up to 18 credits per fiscal year, this amount would have been within the cap and not qualified for TOP UP. Book costs do not qualify for use with TOP UP either. UOP has set policies to help out military members but they are limited to having proof via orders. If you were being deployed and presented a copy of your orders to the school, they would release you from your obligation to complete the class. Certainly if you had a family emergency, an accomodation could be made but it would not warrant you from being excused from having to pay for the class. I have had several students whose parents died or were in critical condition and they were still able to participate and turn in assignments late after notifying their instructor. As far as having to pay back the Army, the regulation that you electronically sign on the Army Education website clearly states that the Army will not pay for a failed or withdrawn course. If they deemed your family emergency to warrant exclusion then they would have probably paid for the class as well. I am not trying to discount your family emergency at all and I hope that the situation has turned for the better. It just sounds more to me like you did not want to complete the class. I certainly understand how it is to be deployed and fulfilling a duty and obligation to serve my country. As a Desert Strom veteran and former Marine I feel compassion for your argument from that sense. However, to be quite frank, UOP does more for military members than most other schools do.


Donald

La Crescenta,
California,
U.S.A.
Using GI Bill while on Active Duty...

#5UPDATE Employee

Mon, July 30, 2007

Using GI Bill while on Active duty can be difficult and confusing to say the least. From what I understand you appear to be an active military member in the Army. The question I have is why you chose to use GI Bill instead of Tuition Assistance? Were you trying to use TOP UP (TOP UP is a benefit that allows an active duty soldier to use part of his projected GI Bill money to help defray the difference in costs which exceed tuition assistance limits)? TOP UP is only used when there is a difference leftover AFTER Tuition Assistance has paid the majority of tuition fees. If you were taking a level 100 or 200 class, elective or not, that class would have cost $250 per credit with your military discount. Since the Army pays $250 per credit for up to 18 credits per fiscal year, this amount would have been within the cap and not qualified for TOP UP. Book costs do not qualify for use with TOP UP either. UOP has set policies to help out military members but they are limited to having proof via orders. If you were being deployed and presented a copy of your orders to the school, they would release you from your obligation to complete the class. Certainly if you had a family emergency, an accomodation could be made but it would not warrant you from being excused from having to pay for the class. I have had several students whose parents died or were in critical condition and they were still able to participate and turn in assignments late after notifying their instructor. As far as having to pay back the Army, the regulation that you electronically sign on the Army Education website clearly states that the Army will not pay for a failed or withdrawn course. If they deemed your family emergency to warrant exclusion then they would have probably paid for the class as well. I am not trying to discount your family emergency at all and I hope that the situation has turned for the better. It just sounds more to me like you did not want to complete the class. I certainly understand how it is to be deployed and fulfilling a duty and obligation to serve my country. As a Desert Strom veteran and former Marine I feel compassion for your argument from that sense. However, to be quite frank, UOP does more for military members than most other schools do.


Donald

La Crescenta,
California,
U.S.A.
Using GI Bill while on Active Duty...

#6UPDATE Employee

Mon, July 30, 2007

Using GI Bill while on Active duty can be difficult and confusing to say the least. From what I understand you appear to be an active military member in the Army. The question I have is why you chose to use GI Bill instead of Tuition Assistance? Were you trying to use TOP UP (TOP UP is a benefit that allows an active duty soldier to use part of his projected GI Bill money to help defray the difference in costs which exceed tuition assistance limits)? TOP UP is only used when there is a difference leftover AFTER Tuition Assistance has paid the majority of tuition fees. If you were taking a level 100 or 200 class, elective or not, that class would have cost $250 per credit with your military discount. Since the Army pays $250 per credit for up to 18 credits per fiscal year, this amount would have been within the cap and not qualified for TOP UP. Book costs do not qualify for use with TOP UP either. UOP has set policies to help out military members but they are limited to having proof via orders. If you were being deployed and presented a copy of your orders to the school, they would release you from your obligation to complete the class. Certainly if you had a family emergency, an accomodation could be made but it would not warrant you from being excused from having to pay for the class. I have had several students whose parents died or were in critical condition and they were still able to participate and turn in assignments late after notifying their instructor. As far as having to pay back the Army, the regulation that you electronically sign on the Army Education website clearly states that the Army will not pay for a failed or withdrawn course. If they deemed your family emergency to warrant exclusion then they would have probably paid for the class as well. I am not trying to discount your family emergency at all and I hope that the situation has turned for the better. It just sounds more to me like you did not want to complete the class. I certainly understand how it is to be deployed and fulfilling a duty and obligation to serve my country. As a Desert Strom veteran and former Marine I feel compassion for your argument from that sense. However, to be quite frank, UOP does more for military members than most other schools do.

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