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  • Report:  #83158

Complaint Review: W. Criag & Company Inc. Web Ad Systems Jim Rosen - Phoenix, Arizona

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- Torrance, California,
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W. Criag & Company Inc. Web Ad Systems Jim Rosen
4040 East McDowell Road, Suite 409 Phoenix,, 85008 Arizona, U.S.A.
Phone:
888-316-2197
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In November of 2003, I purchased a Classified Ad system from Jim Rosen off the T.V.

A week or two later I was contact by Rebecca Anderson of Web Ad Systems during the morning on a week day telling me that I was being chosen to be part of special group in conjunction with a Jim Rosen project to get my testimony on how good their qualified web advertising was for CARDIOZONE fitness equipment. If only I agreed on the prices that were already listed on the web site, I would be guaranteed two orders a week.

Rebecca went on to say I would be refunded the $9,500.00 even if I made $50,000.00 the first year and I was not satisfied with the quality of the leads. She said these qualified leads were people who were serious about purchasing fitness equipment and that they were worth $8-10.00 each but they were being offered at a special price to get my testimony for only $3.00 each. I was also told that I would be seeing traffic to my web site within two weeks and than later see more when other search engines pick up my website.

However, I did not see any traffic at all.

So on December 11th I sent an email to Web Ad Systems support and Thefitnessequipmentstore support and I told them I was concerned that I was not getting any traffic. That same day I got an email from

Thefitnessequipmentstore support; they replied by giving me WEB AD System's customer service number 888-316-2197.

I called customer service and was told Rebecca was not available so I was given a different representative who told me to wait at least a couple of months for the search engines to pick up my website. Once again, I received very little traffic that could be equated to their efforts in fact, they could not tell me if they traffic was coming for them or my outside advertising.

December 15th, Aaron Alfonso from W. Craig & Co emailed me back to verify that my web site and traffic had already been activated. He said I could call 888-316-2197 and ask for additional help on advertisingI thought that is why I purchased $9,500.00 worth of qualified prospects????

So when I called Web Ad systems all I got was someone on the other side of the phone reading off a list that other people had suggestedthe person had no idea how to help me or anyone else.

February 17th I sent an email informing them I could not contact customer service at the phone number listed in the Jim Rosen manuals, which was out of service, 888-316-2197. Aaron Alfonso replied by email that they were having inbound phone problems so he would take my email to customer service and have them call methey NEVER did.

February 20th, I sent another emailed that no one had called me back as promised by Aaron. Aaron replied by email and suggested if I wanted to get more customers I should rewrite my web ad every once in awhile and offer something that people would want. I thought that is why I purchased $9,500.00 worth of qualified prospects????

March 4th I sent another email requesting Rebecca's phone number. After no response, I started researching the internet to get more information on Web Ad Systems and Jim Rosen. That is how I found this website. Now you MUST file a report so we can all bring these unscrupulous people to their knees.

Larry

Torrance, California
U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

Stephen

Albany,
New York,
U.S.A.
There is a way! ..discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked.

#2Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 25, 2004

Hey all, I have an answer for anyone who wants to get your money back! I have read several accounts of people who were in your situation who discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked. Firstly, be sure you have the original packaging in which the product came! This is absolutely necessary. You must have documented proof of apprx. date of delivery, via the postmark on the package. Secondly, package the product up in a NEW box (or envelope, whichever is appropriate) and ship it within the guaranteed return period, FIRST CLASS mail, so that a signature is required for delivery. Keep your receipt showing the date of mailing! The Post Office will have a record of the time and date that the package was delivered. If you do not receive your refund within 30 days, write a letter detailing the situation with COPIES of your receipts, showing proof of delivery, to the Post Master General. In each case I have encountered in which this process was used, the Post Master General contacted the company in writing ORDERING the immediate refund of the customer's money INCLUDING postage, or else they faced charges of MAIL FRAUD. In each case, the person received a full refund. Funny that when unsatisfied customers try to contact the company, they rarely even receive a response... well, you can't mess around with the government and they know it! Whenever dealing through the mail, especially in cases where money exchanges hands, there is always a course of action. Please pass this information on wherever you can! This is the only method I have encountered thus far for obtaining a refund from this "company" and I would like to get the information out because it only works if you are within the return period.


Stephen

Albany,
New York,
U.S.A.
There is a way! ..discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked.

#3Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 25, 2004

Hey all, I have an answer for anyone who wants to get your money back! I have read several accounts of people who were in your situation who discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked. Firstly, be sure you have the original packaging in which the product came! This is absolutely necessary. You must have documented proof of apprx. date of delivery, via the postmark on the package. Secondly, package the product up in a NEW box (or envelope, whichever is appropriate) and ship it within the guaranteed return period, FIRST CLASS mail, so that a signature is required for delivery. Keep your receipt showing the date of mailing! The Post Office will have a record of the time and date that the package was delivered. If you do not receive your refund within 30 days, write a letter detailing the situation with COPIES of your receipts, showing proof of delivery, to the Post Master General. In each case I have encountered in which this process was used, the Post Master General contacted the company in writing ORDERING the immediate refund of the customer's money INCLUDING postage, or else they faced charges of MAIL FRAUD. In each case, the person received a full refund. Funny that when unsatisfied customers try to contact the company, they rarely even receive a response... well, you can't mess around with the government and they know it! Whenever dealing through the mail, especially in cases where money exchanges hands, there is always a course of action. Please pass this information on wherever you can! This is the only method I have encountered thus far for obtaining a refund from this "company" and I would like to get the information out because it only works if you are within the return period.


Stephen

Albany,
New York,
U.S.A.
There is a way! ..discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked.

#4Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 25, 2004

Hey all, I have an answer for anyone who wants to get your money back! I have read several accounts of people who were in your situation who discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked. Firstly, be sure you have the original packaging in which the product came! This is absolutely necessary. You must have documented proof of apprx. date of delivery, via the postmark on the package. Secondly, package the product up in a NEW box (or envelope, whichever is appropriate) and ship it within the guaranteed return period, FIRST CLASS mail, so that a signature is required for delivery. Keep your receipt showing the date of mailing! The Post Office will have a record of the time and date that the package was delivered. If you do not receive your refund within 30 days, write a letter detailing the situation with COPIES of your receipts, showing proof of delivery, to the Post Master General. In each case I have encountered in which this process was used, the Post Master General contacted the company in writing ORDERING the immediate refund of the customer's money INCLUDING postage, or else they faced charges of MAIL FRAUD. In each case, the person received a full refund. Funny that when unsatisfied customers try to contact the company, they rarely even receive a response... well, you can't mess around with the government and they know it! Whenever dealing through the mail, especially in cases where money exchanges hands, there is always a course of action. Please pass this information on wherever you can! This is the only method I have encountered thus far for obtaining a refund from this "company" and I would like to get the information out because it only works if you are within the return period.


Stephen

Albany,
New York,
U.S.A.
There is a way! ..discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked.

#5Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 25, 2004

Hey all, I have an answer for anyone who wants to get your money back! I have read several accounts of people who were in your situation who discovered a "loophole" that Rosen and his crook pals overlooked. Firstly, be sure you have the original packaging in which the product came! This is absolutely necessary. You must have documented proof of apprx. date of delivery, via the postmark on the package. Secondly, package the product up in a NEW box (or envelope, whichever is appropriate) and ship it within the guaranteed return period, FIRST CLASS mail, so that a signature is required for delivery. Keep your receipt showing the date of mailing! The Post Office will have a record of the time and date that the package was delivered. If you do not receive your refund within 30 days, write a letter detailing the situation with COPIES of your receipts, showing proof of delivery, to the Post Master General. In each case I have encountered in which this process was used, the Post Master General contacted the company in writing ORDERING the immediate refund of the customer's money INCLUDING postage, or else they faced charges of MAIL FRAUD. In each case, the person received a full refund. Funny that when unsatisfied customers try to contact the company, they rarely even receive a response... well, you can't mess around with the government and they know it! Whenever dealing through the mail, especially in cases where money exchanges hands, there is always a course of action. Please pass this information on wherever you can! This is the only method I have encountered thus far for obtaining a refund from this "company" and I would like to get the information out because it only works if you are within the return period.


Larry

Torrance,
California,
U.S.A.
my checking account is been charged every month

#6Author of original report

Mon, March 15, 2004

In October 15, 2003, I purchased a Classified Ad system from Jim Rosen off the T.V. for $66.51. On October 28, 2003 I was contacted by Rebecca Anderson of Web Ad Systems during the morning on a weekday telling me that I had been chosen to be part of special group in conjunction with a Jim Rosen project to get my testimony on how good their qualified web advertising was for CARDIOZONE TheFitnessEquipmentStore. If only I agreed on the prices that were already listed on the web site, I would be guaranteed two orders a week. Therefore, I purchased the guaranteed leads for $9,500.00 at 800-587-8713. Rebecca went on to say I would be refunded the $9,500.00 even if I made $50,000.00 the first year and I was not satisfied with the quality of the leads. She said these qualified leads were people who were serious about purchasing fitness equipment and that they were worth $8-10.00 each but they were being offered at a special price to get my testimony for only $3.00 each. I was also told that I would be seeing traffic to my web site within two weeks and than later see more when other search engines pick up my website. However, I did not see any traffic at all. As per the Jim Rosen manuals to reach, full potential I should get a merchant account. His book offered a company that would give me a discount if I mentioned his program. E-Commerce only offered a no cancels three-year contracts. I-Payment, Wonderpay etc So on December 11th I sent an email to Web Ad Systems support and Thefitnessequipmentstore support and I told them I was concerned that I was not getting any traffic. That same day I got an email from Thefitnessequipmentstore support; they replied by giving me WEB AD System's customer service number 888-316-2197. I called customer service and was told Rebecca was not available so I was given a different representative who told me to wait at least a couple of months for the search engines to pick up my website. Once again, I received very little traffic that could be equated to their efforts in fact, they could not tell me if they traffic was coming for them or my outside advertising. December 15th, Aaron Alfonso from W. Craig & Co emailed me back to verify that my web site and traffic had already been activated. He said I could call 888-316-2197 and ask for additional help on advertisingI thought that is why I purchased $9,500.00 worth of qualified prospects???? So when I called Web Ad systems all I got was someone on the other side of the phone reading off a list that other people had suggestedthe person had no idea how to help me or anyone else. February 17th I sent an email informing them I could not contact customer service at the phone number listed in the Jim Rosen manuals, which was out of service, 888-316-2197. Aaron Alfonso replied by email that they were having inbound phone problems so he would take my email to customer service and have them call methey NEVER did. February 20th, I sent another emailed that no one had called me back as promised by Aaron. Aaron replied by email and suggested if I wanted to get more customers I should rewrite my web ad every once in awhile and offer something that people would want. I thought that is why I purchased $9,500.00 worth of qualified prospects???? March 4th I sent another email requesting Rebecca's phone number. After no response, I started researching the internet to get more information on Web Ad Systems and Jim Rosen. That is how I found this website. Now you MUST file a report so we can all bring these unscrupulous people to their knees. In the mean time, my checking account is been charged every month as follows: $30.00 by Wonderpay, $69.82 Bond Corp or A-1 Leasing. A-1 leasing sold some software package to one of the companies who are involved in this mess. Unfortunately, the lease agreement is non-cancelable, and has my signature on it. The charge is $2,583.42, with initial payment of $169.90 and consecutive 36 month I will be billed $69.82. So my losses are: Jim Rosen Classified ad system package $66.51 Web Ad System package: $9,500.00 E-Commerce exchange original charge: $169.00 Wonderpay $2,583.42 ($69.82 x 36)

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