Nancy
Mesa,#2Author of original report
Mon, November 05, 2007
The following letters to the editor published in the November 4, 2007 East Valley Tribune show that others in Mesa, Arizona have their eyes wide open. The Waveyard con job being perpetrated on the city treasury, in violation of Article 9, Section 7 of the Arizona Constitution, is meant to fatten the pocketbooks of a few private land speculators at our expense.
It's gratifying to read that not all voters in Mesa, Arizona are conned follow-the-leader lemmings dutifully swimming upstream to the dam, against the current of logic.
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MESA DESERVES BETTER
Most of the "yes" votes are already in the response to an early balloting strategy at Waveyard paid for "free lunches." These ballots were cast without the benefit of two recent, well-researched articles (one in the Arizona Republic and Expert foresees Waveyard engineering problems,published in the Oct. 29 Tribune). Check your Election Publicity Pamphlet. Nearly all of the heartfelt statements were written and paid for by Waveyard. It's important that you counter this effect by going to the polls on Tuesday and voting no.
I've tracked this project for more than a year, attending dozens of meetings and have spent countless hours researching it. While skeptical from the start, I had hoped that some of the problems would be addressed. Instead, more issues arose than were resolved. There's been a constant stream of misinformation and half-truths from both the city of Mesa and Waveyard.
Problems include: Tax-incentive giveaways ($20 million). Low-ball property appraisal ($30 million). Sweetheart loan terms (4.4 percent). City subsidies. Developer inexperience (wireless retail fiasco). Shaky Australian financing. Problem-plagued wave technology. Traffic congestion. Taxpayer paid-for road widening. Neighborhood impact. Declining property values. Displaced park ballfields. Taxpayer paid-for ballfield relocation (another hidden subsidy).
Demolished golf course (lost, not replaced). Riverview Park downsizing (many lost amenities). Destruction of Kleinman Park. Useless 8th Street linear park. Excessive water consumption. Arsenic-laden well water. City well water agreement. Sewage treatment plant odors. Property boundary agreement. Diverted "bed-tax money" (hotel room fees). Unaddressed and unbudgeted public safety concerns (police and fire). Bait-and-switch site plan maps. The last-minute addition of a second hotel and two parking garages. The list goes on.
The color photos in Waveyard's press package may be alluring, but the devil is in the details. While the developer benefits greatly, Mesa sacrifices too much. Vote "no."
Nate Caine
Mesa
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WIN-WIN FOR THEM
After reviewing the available information regarding the Waveyard project it appears to me to be a win-win situation for the Waveyard organization. If the proposition is passed Tuesday, the purchase of the land would move forward. Once this is completed, Waveyard effectively has control of the property.
As nearly as I can determine from the agreement, it would appear that they have no obligation to build Waveyard unless they wish to have a $20 million loan from Mesa. If this is correct, theoretically, they could build a few generic water features, add some condos, upscale retail, upscale hotel, maybe some apartments and say "gee, this water park idea just doesn't seem to be working out."
What do they gain? The property, not previously available for sale and acquired at a below-market price at a very desirable location. What do they lose? Nothing. They won't need the loan from Mesa and they won't have to deal with the complexities and risks of developing and operating an unconventional and experimental water park. Perhaps this scenario bears looking into.
Paul Ingle
Mesa
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PLANS COULD CHANGE AFTER VOTE
The Tribune's Oct. 28 headline was The Waveyard Question. Mesa: Would you vote for this? There was lots of information describing this. Before we go any further, let's try to define, this. In letters so small that many need a magnifying glass to read it, this statement appears in supporting campaign literature:
Preliminary/conceptual site plan for the Waveyard project. This preliminary/conceptual site plan is subject to further revisions by the developer, review by the Mesa Planning and Zoning Board and approval by the city of Mesa Design Review Board and Council.
Despite all the hoopla money can buy, we don't know what this project will look like because the site plan hasn't been approved and can be changed at any time. The end result may be vastly different from what we see in television ads. Please think about that before you vote Tuesday.
Janie Thom
Mesa
Nancy
Mesa,#3Author of original report
Mon, November 05, 2007
The following letters to the editor published in the November 4, 2007 East Valley Tribune show that others in Mesa, Arizona have their eyes wide open. The Waveyard con job being perpetrated on the city treasury, in violation of Article 9, Section 7 of the Arizona Constitution, is meant to fatten the pocketbooks of a few private land speculators at our expense.
It's gratifying to read that not all voters in Mesa, Arizona are conned follow-the-leader lemmings dutifully swimming upstream to the dam, against the current of logic.
===================
MESA DESERVES BETTER
Most of the "yes" votes are already in the response to an early balloting strategy at Waveyard paid for "free lunches." These ballots were cast without the benefit of two recent, well-researched articles (one in the Arizona Republic and Expert foresees Waveyard engineering problems,published in the Oct. 29 Tribune). Check your Election Publicity Pamphlet. Nearly all of the heartfelt statements were written and paid for by Waveyard. It's important that you counter this effect by going to the polls on Tuesday and voting no.
I've tracked this project for more than a year, attending dozens of meetings and have spent countless hours researching it. While skeptical from the start, I had hoped that some of the problems would be addressed. Instead, more issues arose than were resolved. There's been a constant stream of misinformation and half-truths from both the city of Mesa and Waveyard.
Problems include: Tax-incentive giveaways ($20 million). Low-ball property appraisal ($30 million). Sweetheart loan terms (4.4 percent). City subsidies. Developer inexperience (wireless retail fiasco). Shaky Australian financing. Problem-plagued wave technology. Traffic congestion. Taxpayer paid-for road widening. Neighborhood impact. Declining property values. Displaced park ballfields. Taxpayer paid-for ballfield relocation (another hidden subsidy).
Demolished golf course (lost, not replaced). Riverview Park downsizing (many lost amenities). Destruction of Kleinman Park. Useless 8th Street linear park. Excessive water consumption. Arsenic-laden well water. City well water agreement. Sewage treatment plant odors. Property boundary agreement. Diverted "bed-tax money" (hotel room fees). Unaddressed and unbudgeted public safety concerns (police and fire). Bait-and-switch site plan maps. The last-minute addition of a second hotel and two parking garages. The list goes on.
The color photos in Waveyard's press package may be alluring, but the devil is in the details. While the developer benefits greatly, Mesa sacrifices too much. Vote "no."
Nate Caine
Mesa
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WIN-WIN FOR THEM
After reviewing the available information regarding the Waveyard project it appears to me to be a win-win situation for the Waveyard organization. If the proposition is passed Tuesday, the purchase of the land would move forward. Once this is completed, Waveyard effectively has control of the property.
As nearly as I can determine from the agreement, it would appear that they have no obligation to build Waveyard unless they wish to have a $20 million loan from Mesa. If this is correct, theoretically, they could build a few generic water features, add some condos, upscale retail, upscale hotel, maybe some apartments and say "gee, this water park idea just doesn't seem to be working out."
What do they gain? The property, not previously available for sale and acquired at a below-market price at a very desirable location. What do they lose? Nothing. They won't need the loan from Mesa and they won't have to deal with the complexities and risks of developing and operating an unconventional and experimental water park. Perhaps this scenario bears looking into.
Paul Ingle
Mesa
============================
PLANS COULD CHANGE AFTER VOTE
The Tribune's Oct. 28 headline was The Waveyard Question. Mesa: Would you vote for this? There was lots of information describing this. Before we go any further, let's try to define, this. In letters so small that many need a magnifying glass to read it, this statement appears in supporting campaign literature:
Preliminary/conceptual site plan for the Waveyard project. This preliminary/conceptual site plan is subject to further revisions by the developer, review by the Mesa Planning and Zoning Board and approval by the city of Mesa Design Review Board and Council.
Despite all the hoopla money can buy, we don't know what this project will look like because the site plan hasn't been approved and can be changed at any time. The end result may be vastly different from what we see in television ads. Please think about that before you vote Tuesday.
Janie Thom
Mesa
Mary V. Melcher
Mesa,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, November 05, 2007
Just a few questions about this latest grand scheme for "putting Mesa on the map:"
*What financial security does Mesa have that this project will get finished? It's not unheard of for a company or a project to go belly-up before it is finished. In this case, some rather nice local amenities which are enjoyed by west Mesa residents will be long gone should that occur.
*I find it suspicious that we cannot get a handle on how much water this will use especially since it is precious and rapidly decreasing groundwater which belongs to the citizens of Mesa.
*Have any of the self-professed 'conservative' officials and community movers paused to check the state constitution, which is clear in prohibiting gifts of public assets to private parties?
*If in fact, as Matt Salmon likes to argue, this is a way to make the government operate like a business, then it would seem to me that the land would be sold to the highest bidder who would then obtain financing (presumably at a regular market rate) from a private lender and who would collect all sales taxes due and remit those in their entirety to the city, much as less well-connected businesses do. This is the way business operates in the real world where the rest of us live and invest.
It takes real bald-faced nerve to argue that a well-used and enjoyed taxpayer-owned facility such as this does not produce enough money, so the thing should be turned over in a giveaway deal to a private party. If that were the criteria for city-owned real estate, then surely council chambers would be the first deadwood to go, in favor of putting that space to some useful purpose.