Peter Fry
Dublin,#2REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, September 22, 2010
3:07pm
- Tigh - Have you tried contacting builder support?
3:07pm - Mr. Fry - who are
builder support?
3:08pm - Mr. Fry - surely
Im not the only one with this problem?
3:09pm - Mr. Fry - Ive
good broadband here, never a problem with other videos
3:10pm - Tigh - There are
people who have problems with the videos but it isnt very often. Builder
support is contacted at ext 2011
I have been trying to get one of the coaches to identify one product just one in the full Doba range that is selling well on eBay, having looked at the elite sellers list within Doba the best selling products only had a handful sell on eBay in the month when one looks at the eBay completed items list for that particular item. Doba when questioned about this told me that the best sellers are from their catalogue ---so it includes a physical catalogue as well?
Here is a conversation from Friday 22nd May, I was pointed to look at an example site (((Redacted)))
1:05pm - Mr. Fry - ok, Ive randomly clicked on Corvette C6 Padded Bar Stool - Black
1:06pm - Mr. Fry - in eBay from 82 to 149
1:08pm - Mr. Fry - on Doba for purchase at 62,
shipping estimate 14, listing with eBay fee? Paypal charges? So to start making
a profit this needs to sell at?
1:19pm - Tigh - okay, so you will be paying a
total of $76. That might be a little tight. Lets check a couple more
---Thats as far as we got that night!
Another time:
2:31pm - Mr. Fry - hi Tigh, you still there?
2:36pm - Mr. Fry - Ive randomly selected another
from themanden.com site:
1000 Lucky Bee EDGE SPOT NEXGEN Chips
selling for 185.50. On Doba its 148 plus 34 shipping plus eBay listing plus
Paypal fees
2:39pm - Mr. Fry - another: NHL Anaheim Ducks
Dart Cabinet includes Darts and Board 112.75, on Doba 88 plus shipping 25,
handling 4 plus eBay listing and Paypal fees???????
----This had to stop because the live chat facility kept stopping every time I finished typing and he couldn't call me for 40 minutes. When I resumed there was no answers to what I was asking
Anther time:
Hi Tigh, we were working together on identifying one product in the Doba range to put up on eBay. I keyed in screen in the search engine and then clicked on the
MANUAL SCREEN- 100\" ACCUSCREEN, HDTV
Price is 62 plus 18 shipping plus listing fee and Paypal fee (and eBay cut as well?)
I then went to eBay and see two on there one for 90 at auction and the other for 105 buy it now.
I then went to completed listings for this product and see nothing for the past 15 days so I reckon this doesn't fit the bill?
Joshua came through, said he'd look at it, 15 minutes later no response despite me asking Joshua are you there?
The videos don't work in his back-office and the coaches are slow as you can see the time lines above. One week slips i
------------------------------ Frid 12th June
4:11pm - System - Welcome to Live Chat, powered
by Thrive. Please stand by while we connect you to your advisor...
4:11pm - Blake - Hello Peter
I just tried phoning you
4:11pm - Mr. Fry - hi
Blake, Ive been searching ever since, no joy!
4:12pm - Mr. Fry - mmm
phone is beside me here
4:12pm - Blake - phone
connection issues, nevertheless I sent you an email of items that are selling
on eBay from Doba
4:13pm - Mr. Fry - ok Ill
have a look and be back soon, I`ll see how well they are doing in completed
items
4:16pm - Blake - on was a cd
player that retailed for 100, wholesaled for 20 and most sold for around 50
4:37pm - Mr. Fry - ok, so
if i put up the golf clubs i will not have to buy them now?
4:38pm - Mr. Fry - Nike Pro
Combo Graphite Forged Iron Set
4:38pm - Mr. Fry - what
shipping costs would you suggest?
4:43pm - Mr. Fry - Sony
DFJ210 Discman ---no such product on Doba
4:44pm - Mr. Fry - Invicta
Automatic Two-Tone Diver Watch -- cant find this also
4:47pm - Mr. Fry - 25 Piece
Tool Kit with Light Hiking Set ---no sales in past 15 days!!!
4:50pm - Mr. Fry - 300 free
shipping, the clubs would be heavy, so they may have sold---but at a loss or
next to loss
4:51pm - Mr. Fry - you
there Blake?
4:54pm - Mr. Fry - Blake?
12:45pm - System - Welcome to Live Chat, powered
by Thrive. Please stand by while we connect you to your advisor...
12:46pm - Mr. Fry - hi
anybody there?
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - if you
are there from 8 to 8, where are you now? Where did you disappear to last
Friday at 4.50pm?
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - this is
where we left off having given me a list of things that I should look at
promoting:
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - 4:37pm
- Mr. Fry - ok, so if I put up the golf clubs I will not have to buy them now? 4:38pm
- Mr. Fry - Nike Pro Combo Graphite Forged Iron Set 4:38pm - Mr. Fry - what
shipping costs would you suggest? 4:43pm - Mr. Fry - Sony DFJ210 Discman ---no
such product on Doba 4:44pm - Mr. Fry - Invicta Automatic Two-Tone Diver Watch
-- Cant find this also 4:47pm - Mr. Fry - 25 Piece Tool Kit with Light Hiking
Set ---no sales in past 15 days!!! 4:50pm - Mr. Fry - 300 free shipping, the
clubs would be heavy, so they may have sold---but at a loss or next to loss
4:51pm - Mr. Fry - you there Blake? 4:54pm - Mr. Fry - Blake
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - anybody
there?
12:53pm - Tyler - yeah, how can i help you peter
12:54pm - Mr. Fry - where
do I start after all this time....
12:55pm - Mr. Fry - Blake
spent about two hours Friday with me trying to identify one product just one
product from Doba that sells on eBay.... look at the above he sent me and let
me know please
12:55pm - Mr. Fry where
did he get to from 4.50pmFrid? Why was there a shut down?
12:57pm - Tyler - not too
sure, sorry about that...i have a client who sold an outdoor patio set from
Doba last week and made some money on it...give me a few minutes to take a look
at that product
12:57pm - Mr. Fry - then I
get this a short while ago, and its bullshit, because my phone is always with
me Dear Peter, Sorry we were unable to get a hold of you. Please email us some
times that would work best for us to reach each other over the phone. You can
also jump on LIVE CHAT in your elibrary to get a hold of us if you dont want
to email, and someone will respond. But remember we are only here in the office
Monday through Friday 8:00 - 8:00 Mountain Standard Time zone. So if you have
any questions outside those hours please send us an email.
12:58pm - Mr. Fry - how
much do you charge for your services each week?
1:01pm - Tyler - we dont
have a weekly charge just the initial fee...let me check that listing
1:02pm - Mr. Fry - then
whats this invoice about?
1:03pm - Mr. Fry -
Purchases Price 6/13/2009 Coaching Monthly (Qty 1 x $39.95) $39.95 n/a Total
Purchases $39.95
1:05pm - Mr. Fry - or is it
$447 a week you charge? For what? .... Im not getting answers to any of my
questions
1:07pm - Mr. Fry - hello?
1:08pm - Tyler - please be
patient...Im trying to look at Doba but will stop now in order to answer your
questions
1:09pm - Mr. Fry - no keep
looking on Doba for one product please Tyler
1:09pm - Tyler - ok, I`ll
answer your questions later
1:33pm - Tyler - peter, Im
looking in Doba right now but as for the charges please send us the details
such as the date, amounts, etc...if you could scan the bill and send that or
forward us emails with those charges wed be able to answer what they are
1:44pm - Tyler - Peter, I
cant find anything right now...I know that Doba can be profitable but its
very hard. Obviously the products are few and far between. eBay prices are too
low right now, you`d need to sell those things on a website so you could sell
closer to retail price...didnt Drew offer you the free hosting for a few
months a little while back?
1:45pm - Mr. Fry -
what????? in this great warehouse you cant find one product for me to sell?
Thats what I bought into!!! Whats going on?
1:46pm - Tyler - I didnt
look through every product in this great warehouse...like I said theyre there
but very hard to find
1:46pm - Mr. Fry - not good
enough Tyler, fine me a product!!!
1:48pm - Mr. Fry - just
one, are you saying I was asked to pay 4447 and it wasnt including great
products from a great warehouse that would offer low prices and Id make a LOT
of money because of it ---you are now saying DOBA is a bad wholesaler as it
doesnt have a wide range of products that sell regularly
1:48pm - Tyler - Sorry Peter,
Ive got appointments in just a bit here and dont have any more time to search
through their lists. If you choose to continue looking to sell on eBay youll
have to look through their lists...if youd like to consider an off ebay
website for your sales let me know.
1:49pm - Mr. Fry - hang on
a minute are you coaching are not?
1:49pm - Tyler - yeah, I am,
Im suggesting that you use Doba to sell on a website as the margins on ebay
are hard to find
1:51pm - Mr. Fry - but I
signed up for eBay didnt I? I was told it was the thing to get involved in.
Now you are saying forget Bay and sell Doba stuff from a website?
1:54pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Tyler?
1:55pm - Mr. Fry - is that
what you are saying, forget eBay and sell items from DOBA on a website?
1:55pm - Mr. Fry - is that
the way forward due to the margins on eBay?
1:56pm - Tyler - Im saying
that youre profit margin would be more easily attained through a website...it
can be done on ebay (like I said my client sold a patio set last week from Doba
that he made money on) but it may be harder to find products with good profit
margins to sell on Doba
1:56pm - Mr. Fry - how many
of that same product sold in the past 15 days Tyler?
1:57pm - Mr. Fry - from
what you are saying I`ll do better on a website and forget eBay
1:57pm - Tyler - not sure I
didnt check...we coached him on how to look for products and he did the work
on researching them
1:58pm - Mr. Fry - I looked
at patio sets last week, check it again now please. The same set he sold, how
many sold on eBay in the past 15 days?
1:59pm - Tyler - youre
potential profit margins would definitely be bigger, whether you do better and
make sales depends on how well you market it...something we can help you with.
I dont know the patio set he sold he just told me about it.
2:00pm - Mr. Fry - aw come
on look at the patio sets Doba are promoting, then look at eBay completed
items..... then tell me how many patio sets sold on eBays completed listings
in the past 15 days. Itll only take you a few minutes
2:01pm - Tyler - Im getting
on an appointment right now. I dont have time. If Im slow on answering in here
thats why
2:02pm - Mr. Fry - hey, Im
supposedly a client answer my questions please...all of them!!
2:02pm - Mr. Fry where is
the rest of your team? .
2:07pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Tyler?
2:10pm - Tyler - Peter, Im on a call right now.
If you could get back on the chat one of the other coaches will be able to talk
with you.
2:12pm - Mr. Fry - but I
have to go through things with them from the start, Ive given you a lot there
and am awaiting answers. How come I cant get through when I call? Give the others
that call and focus on my issues please
2:27pm - Mr. Fry - am I
correct in saying that?
2:30pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Blake is that correct?
2:31pm - Mr. Fry - sorry
Tyler I called you Blake :-)
2:35pm - Mr. Fry - it would
take a lot of money and time to make 2000/3000 a month on eBay and Doba dont
have the products to put on eBay to make that each month?
2:40pm - Tyler - I cant say
they dont because other people have done it...its doable but harder to find
those margins
2:44pm - Mr. Fry - maybe in
the past a long time ago but not now. You, Blake and me couldnt identify one
Doba product over many hours that sells regularly on eBay.
2:46pm - Mr. Fry - I reckon
those that do it buy a large quantity of a product from Doba at a preferential
rate and can then sell at cheaper than an ordinary person because they have
this deal done and consequently can get margins
2:46pm - Mr. Fry - but it
takes money and a lot of it to make money
2:58pm - Mr. Fry - wouldnt
you agree Tyler?
3:11pm - Tyler - No, theyre
doing it exactly as you would, theyve just put in the time to figure out what
is profitable and whats not
3:12pm - Mr. Fry - ok then
lets go again, fine me one, just one product please!!!
3:13pm - Tyler - Peter, Im
headed out of the office right now, if youd like to get back on the chat one
of the other coaches can assist you.
3:14pm - Mr. Fry - just put
someone on please Tyler
3:15pm - Tyler - you have to
request a chat before someone else can get on...thats how the system works
3:15pm - Mr. Fry - so I
have to start again?...no progress in two and a ha lf hours
3:17pm - Tyler - I explained
to you earlier that Id shared your wants with the others. Theyre are ready to
help you but Im on my way out. Hope you decide to get on again with one of the
others. Bye.
All I ever asked for was my money back from this millionaire but there is no compassion in him whatsoever so we are where we are
Adam Ginsberg is putting up false posts which do not allow comments. I paid over $5000 for a coaching course and posted the actual logs which I will do again here. A lot of money and one would expect top level coaching. The coaching turned out to be from a 3rd party who they discontinued using due to what was going on.His sidekick Adam Steinberg told me they had issues with the coaching when I subsequently met him in Dublin about 6 months later.
I continue to ask for my money back, please look at these logs and put yourself in my place.
Then read about the product he subsequently launched called Seedlings, go ahead and Google it. He really should be stopped!
So, here are the actual logs
For a start coaching videos did not work.....
3:07pm
- Tigh - Have you tried contacting builder support?
3:07pm - Mr. Fry - who are
builder support?
3:08pm - Mr. Fry - surely
Im not the only one with this problem?
3:09pm - Mr. Fry - Ive
good broadband here, never a problem with other videos
3:10pm - Tigh - There are
people who have problems with the videos but it isnt very often. Builder
support is contacted at ext 2011
I have been trying to get one of the coaches to identify one product just one in the full Doba range that is selling well on eBay, having looked at the elite sellers list within Doba the best selling products only had a handful sell on eBay in the month when one looks at the eBay completed items list for that particular item. Doba when questioned about this told me that the best sellers are from their catalogue ---so it includes a physical catalogue as well?
Here is a conversation from Friday 22nd May, I was pointed to look at an example site (((Redacted)))
1:05pm - Mr. Fry - ok, Ive randomly clicked on Corvette C6 Padded Bar Stool - Black
1:06pm - Mr. Fry - in eBay from 82 to 149
1:08pm - Mr. Fry - on Doba for purchase at 62,
shipping estimate 14, listing with eBay fee? Paypal charges? So to start making
a profit this needs to sell at?
1:19pm - Tigh - okay, so you will be paying a
total of $76. That might be a little tight. Lets check a couple more
---Thats as far as we got that night!
Another time:
2:31pm - Mr. Fry - hi Tigh, you still there?
2:36pm - Mr. Fry - Ive randomly selected another
from themanden.com site:
1000 Lucky Bee EDGE SPOT NEXGEN Chips
selling for 185.50. On Doba its 148 plus 34 shipping plus eBay listing plus
Paypal fees
2:39pm - Mr. Fry - another: NHL Anaheim Ducks
Dart Cabinet includes Darts and Board 112.75, on Doba 88 plus shipping 25,
handling 4 plus eBay listing and Paypal fees???????
----This had to stop because the live chat facility kept stopping every time I finished typing and he couldn't call me for 40 minutes. When I resumed there was no answers to what I was asking
Anther time:
Hi Tigh, we were working together on identifying one product in the Doba range to put up on eBay. I keyed in screen in the search engine and then clicked on the
MANUAL SCREEN- 100\" ACCUSCREEN, HDTV
Price is 62 plus 18 shipping plus listing fee and Paypal fee (and eBay cut as well?)
I then went to eBay and see two on there one for 90 at auction and the other for 105 buy it now.
I then went to completed listings for this product and see nothing for the past 15 days so I reckon this doesn't fit the bill?
Joshua came through, said he'd look at it, 15 minutes later no response despite me asking Joshua are you there?
The videos don't work in his back-office and the coaches are slow as you can see the time lines above. One week slips i
------------------------------ Frid 12th June
4:11pm - System - Welcome to Live Chat, powered
by Thrive. Please stand by while we connect you to your advisor...
4:11pm - Blake - Hello Peter
I just tried phoning you
4:11pm - Mr. Fry - hi
Blake, Ive been searching ever since, no joy!
4:12pm - Mr. Fry - mmm
phone is beside me here
4:12pm - Blake - phone
connection issues, nevertheless I sent you an email of items that are selling
on eBay from Doba
4:13pm - Mr. Fry - ok Ill
have a look and be back soon, I`ll see how well they are doing in completed
items
4:16pm - Blake - on was a cd
player that retailed for 100, wholesaled for 20 and most sold for around 50
4:37pm - Mr. Fry - ok, so
if i put up the golf clubs i will not have to buy them now?
4:38pm - Mr. Fry - Nike Pro
Combo Graphite Forged Iron Set
4:38pm - Mr. Fry - what
shipping costs would you suggest?
4:43pm - Mr. Fry - Sony
DFJ210 Discman ---no such product on Doba
4:44pm - Mr. Fry - Invicta
Automatic Two-Tone Diver Watch -- cant find this also
4:47pm - Mr. Fry - 25 Piece
Tool Kit with Light Hiking Set ---no sales in past 15 days!!!
4:50pm - Mr. Fry - 300 free
shipping, the clubs would be heavy, so they may have sold---but at a loss or
next to loss
4:51pm - Mr. Fry - you
there Blake?
4:54pm - Mr. Fry - Blake?
12:45pm - System - Welcome to Live Chat, powered
by Thrive. Please stand by while we connect you to your advisor...
12:46pm - Mr. Fry - hi
anybody there?
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - if you
are there from 8 to 8, where are you now? Where did you disappear to last
Friday at 4.50pm?
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - this is
where we left off having given me a list of things that I should look at
promoting:
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - 4:37pm
- Mr. Fry - ok, so if I put up the golf clubs I will not have to buy them now? 4:38pm
- Mr. Fry - Nike Pro Combo Graphite Forged Iron Set 4:38pm - Mr. Fry - what
shipping costs would you suggest? 4:43pm - Mr. Fry - Sony DFJ210 Discman ---no
such product on Doba 4:44pm - Mr. Fry - Invicta Automatic Two-Tone Diver Watch
-- Cant find this also 4:47pm - Mr. Fry - 25 Piece Tool Kit with Light Hiking
Set ---no sales in past 15 days!!! 4:50pm - Mr. Fry - 300 free shipping, the
clubs would be heavy, so they may have sold---but at a loss or next to loss
4:51pm - Mr. Fry - you there Blake? 4:54pm - Mr. Fry - Blake
12:49pm - Mr. Fry - anybody
there?
12:53pm - Tyler - yeah, how can i help you peter
12:54pm - Mr. Fry - where
do I start after all this time....
12:55pm - Mr. Fry - Blake
spent about two hours Friday with me trying to identify one product just one
product from Doba that sells on eBay.... look at the above he sent me and let
me know please
12:55pm - Mr. Fry where
did he get to from 4.50pmFrid? Why was there a shut down?
12:57pm - Tyler - not too
sure, sorry about that...i have a client who sold an outdoor patio set from
Doba last week and made some money on it...give me a few minutes to take a look
at that product
12:57pm - Mr. Fry - then I
get this a short while ago, and its bullshit, because my phone is always with
me Dear Peter, Sorry we were unable to get a hold of you. Please email us some
times that would work best for us to reach each other over the phone. You can
also jump on LIVE CHAT in your elibrary to get a hold of us if you dont want
to email, and someone will respond. But remember we are only here in the office
Monday through Friday 8:00 - 8:00 Mountain Standard Time zone. So if you have
any questions outside those hours please send us an email.
12:58pm - Mr. Fry - how
much do you charge for your services each week?
1:01pm - Tyler - we dont
have a weekly charge just the initial fee...let me check that listing
1:02pm - Mr. Fry - then
whats this invoice about?
1:03pm - Mr. Fry -
Purchases Price 6/13/2009 Coaching Monthly (Qty 1 x $39.95) $39.95 n/a Total
Purchases $39.95
1:05pm - Mr. Fry - or is it
$447 a week you charge? For what? .... Im not getting answers to any of my
questions
1:07pm - Mr. Fry - hello?
1:08pm - Tyler - please be
patient...Im trying to look at Doba but will stop now in order to answer your
questions
1:09pm - Mr. Fry - no keep
looking on Doba for one product please Tyler
1:09pm - Tyler - ok, I`ll
answer your questions later
1:33pm - Tyler - peter, Im
looking in Doba right now but as for the charges please send us the details
such as the date, amounts, etc...if you could scan the bill and send that or
forward us emails with those charges wed be able to answer what they are
1:44pm - Tyler - Peter, I
cant find anything right now...I know that Doba can be profitable but its
very hard. Obviously the products are few and far between. eBay prices are too
low right now, you`d need to sell those things on a website so you could sell
closer to retail price...didnt Drew offer you the free hosting for a few
months a little while back?
1:45pm - Mr. Fry -
what????? in this great warehouse you cant find one product for me to sell?
Thats what I bought into!!! Whats going on?
1:46pm - Tyler - I didnt
look through every product in this great warehouse...like I said theyre there
but very hard to find
1:46pm - Mr. Fry - not good
enough Tyler, fine me a product!!!
1:48pm - Mr. Fry - just
one, are you saying I was asked to pay 4447 and it wasnt including great
products from a great warehouse that would offer low prices and Id make a LOT
of money because of it ---you are now saying DOBA is a bad wholesaler as it
doesnt have a wide range of products that sell regularly
1:48pm - Tyler - Sorry Peter,
Ive got appointments in just a bit here and dont have any more time to search
through their lists. If you choose to continue looking to sell on eBay youll
have to look through their lists...if youd like to consider an off ebay
website for your sales let me know.
1:49pm - Mr. Fry - hang on
a minute are you coaching are not?
1:49pm - Tyler - yeah, I am,
Im suggesting that you use Doba to sell on a website as the margins on ebay
are hard to find
1:51pm - Mr. Fry - but I
signed up for eBay didnt I? I was told it was the thing to get involved in.
Now you are saying forget Bay and sell Doba stuff from a website?
1:54pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Tyler?
1:55pm - Mr. Fry - is that
what you are saying, forget eBay and sell items from DOBA on a website?
1:55pm - Mr. Fry - is that
the way forward due to the margins on eBay?
1:56pm - Tyler - Im saying
that youre profit margin would be more easily attained through a website...it
can be done on ebay (like I said my client sold a patio set last week from Doba
that he made money on) but it may be harder to find products with good profit
margins to sell on Doba
1:56pm - Mr. Fry - how many
of that same product sold in the past 15 days Tyler?
1:57pm - Mr. Fry - from
what you are saying I`ll do better on a website and forget eBay
1:57pm - Tyler - not sure I
didnt check...we coached him on how to look for products and he did the work
on researching them
1:58pm - Mr. Fry - I looked
at patio sets last week, check it again now please. The same set he sold, how
many sold on eBay in the past 15 days?
1:59pm - Tyler - youre
potential profit margins would definitely be bigger, whether you do better and
make sales depends on how well you market it...something we can help you with.
I dont know the patio set he sold he just told me about it.
2:00pm - Mr. Fry - aw come
on look at the patio sets Doba are promoting, then look at eBay completed
items..... then tell me how many patio sets sold on eBays completed listings
in the past 15 days. Itll only take you a few minutes
2:01pm - Tyler - Im getting
on an appointment right now. I dont have time. If Im slow on answering in here
thats why
2:02pm - Mr. Fry - hey, Im
supposedly a client answer my questions please...all of them!!
2:02pm - Mr. Fry where is
the rest of your team? .
2:07pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Tyler?
2:10pm - Tyler - Peter, Im on a call right now.
If you could get back on the chat one of the other coaches will be able to talk
with you.
2:12pm - Mr. Fry - but I
have to go through things with them from the start, Ive given you a lot there
and am awaiting answers. How come I cant get through when I call? Give the others
that call and focus on my issues please
2:27pm - Mr. Fry - am I
correct in saying that?
2:30pm - Mr. Fry - hello
Blake is that correct?
2:31pm - Mr. Fry - sorry
Tyler I called you Blake :-)
2:35pm - Mr. Fry - it would
take a lot of money and time to make 2000/3000 a month on eBay and Doba dont
have the products to put on eBay to make that each month?
2:40pm - Tyler - I cant say
they dont because other people have done it...its doable but harder to find
those margins
2:44pm - Mr. Fry - maybe in
the past a long time ago but not now. You, Blake and me couldnt identify one
Doba product over many hours that sells regularly on eBay.
2:46pm - Mr. Fry - I reckon
those that do it buy a large quantity of a product from Doba at a preferential
rate and can then sell at cheaper than an ordinary person because they have
this deal done and consequently can get margins
2:46pm - Mr. Fry - but it
takes money and a lot of it to make money
2:58pm - Mr. Fry - wouldnt
you agree Tyler?
3:11pm - Tyler - No, theyre
doing it exactly as you would, theyve just put in the time to figure out what
is profitable and whats not
3:12pm - Mr. Fry - ok then
lets go again, fine me one, just one product please!!!
3:13pm - Tyler - Peter, Im
headed out of the office right now, if youd like to get back on the chat one
of the other coaches can assist you.
3:14pm - Mr. Fry - just put
someone on please Tyler
3:15pm - Tyler - you have to
request a chat before someone else can get on...thats how the system works
3:15pm - Mr. Fry - so I
have to start again?...no progress in two and a ha lf hours
3:17pm - Tyler - I explained
to you earlier that Id shared your wants with the others. Theyre are ready to
help you but Im on my way out. Hope you decide to get on again with one of the
others. Bye.
All I ever asked for was my money back from this millionaire but there is no compassion in him whatsoever so we are where we are
Adam ginsberg customer care
Los Angeles,#3UPDATE Employee
Fri, June 11, 2010
Peter Fry continues to post false commentary on the internet with the sole intent of blackmailing our company. You can read all about his story here for the real truth:
http://somepeopledontgetit.com
Charles
FRANKLIN PARK,#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, June 13, 2009
Ok Adam Ginsberg. Let's say that I didn't complaint about your product or services. How can you explain still so many more complaints still happening on today? What's that legal term that means "Let it speak for itself!" If the legal system doesn't do anything against you, then you have outsmarted the law and proven crime does pay. Even after your employee's leave their job, how do they put on a resume that they supported a rip off artist?
Cinda
Salt Lake City,#5UPDATE Employee
Sat, October 21, 2006
This person who made these claims is running an Internet scam. Not only was he issued a refund, but he filed a complaint with his credit card company - who in turn issued him a refund as well. It's interesting that someone would post a public comment online that is so blatantly false. This person was issued a refund twice - is now $725 AHEAD...and still filed a complaint. We do everything possible to resolve all issues and will do our best to do so at all time. Kari Customer Care Manager
Chris
Los Angeles,#6UPDATE Employee
Mon, January 10, 2005
In responce to being ripped off by Ginsberg Consulting, Customer made purchase - RETUNRED AFTER REFUND POLICY Sent check anyway.