Danielle
Hudson,#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, June 23, 2006
I worked for the same company that all of you did in Conshy. Hell I was dumb b/c I relocated to there from 2 hours away. I will honestly say I was brainwashed and instead of motivating me it crushed my self-confindence and my spirit. I only lasted a month but I realized I couldn't take it anymore when after "atmosphere" everyday I'd go to my car and bawl my eyes out b/c I couldn't do it. Yes, it sounded too good to b true. And a year and a thousands of dollars in debt later, I will try to keep other people from making my mistake. Thank God I wised up! I still think the only reason I took the job was b/c of the owner being eye candy. Which was the only good thing about it.
Elizabeth
Fayettvill,#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, January 07, 2006
If the product your company is forcing you to market is not worth 2 cents, of course your not going to feel well decision rusing the owner of the company your trying to market to. Bottom line is, at no time is it appropriate to conduct business on empty marketing.
Alberta
Baltimore,#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, December 04, 2005
I read a comment from a Sales Pro and wanted to respond. I agree with your comment concerning making appointments to meet with "decision makers," and stated this point to my leader and he stated that we don't do that. I was given a set of rules to follow concering my door to door sales pitch, my job was to get past the gatekeeper, get to the decision maker without an appointment, and utimately sell the decision maker right then and there. Setting an appointment was considered a "crawel back." Crawel back meaning you where going back to pitch the decision maker without knowing for sure you had a sell. Setting an appointment with a person verbally stating they wanted to purchase something was considered a "call back." Call backs and crawel backs where discouraged by my leader. I found this to be very strange. Having been an office manager (gatekeeper), I appreciated people who valued my time and made an appointment. Since the job with Advertising Endeavers (cydcor) was my first sales job ever - i figured they knew what they where doing. Later I discovered that - I was to create that since of urgency, fear of loss if you will to cause the potential client to make a decision quickly. I know this is a part of sales, but most educated consumers do not go for the "rushing the decision maker" tactic. Does this in your face method work? Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. As a newbie sales person progresses with learning different sales tactics they will eventually come into their own with a sales tactic that works for them. How does a person who makes I living off of how well they are able to rush a decision maker sleep at night?? I cannot answer that -- I never got to that level.
William
Livingston,#5Consumer Comment
Sat, December 11, 2004
Hello all. I'd like to share my experience with what I'm sure were these Cydcore sales people in action, and offer some advice from a seasoned sales pro. While waiting for a scheduled meeting in the reception area of KUHT (PBS television), in Houston TX., in walk three nicely attired young gentlemen. I overheard the leader of this trio informing the receptionist that they were there to see the person in charge of purchasing office supplies. The receptionist then asked if they had an appointment, to which the leader responded, no. It was at this time that the person I was meeting with, emerged from the door leading to the offices, and called me in. Free advice: 1) Call ahead of time, and speak to the person you need to meet with, and set an appointment. 2) Ask that person, that you would like to bring along x-amount of trainees, if it is allright? 3) If you are going to cold call in person, then ask the receptionist for the name, and that you will call to make an appointment, but if that person is available now, that you would be glad to meet with them. This has got me in the door on some occaisions, but more often than not, you will have to call for the appointment. Either way, it shows your proffesionalism, and will get you better results. Note: I seriously doubt that you will get in, cold calling in person, with trainees in tow. I'm not goin to debate if Cydcore is a cult or not, just wanted to offer some advice on good selling. So with that, I will bid you farewell.
William
Livingston,#6Consumer Comment
Sat, December 11, 2004
Hello all. I'd like to share my experience with what I'm sure were these Cydcore sales people in action, and offer some advice from a seasoned sales pro. While waiting for a scheduled meeting in the reception area of KUHT (PBS television), in Houston TX., in walk three nicely attired young gentlemen. I overheard the leader of this trio informing the receptionist that they were there to see the person in charge of purchasing office supplies. The receptionist then asked if they had an appointment, to which the leader responded, no. It was at this time that the person I was meeting with, emerged from the door leading to the offices, and called me in. Free advice: 1) Call ahead of time, and speak to the person you need to meet with, and set an appointment. 2) Ask that person, that you would like to bring along x-amount of trainees, if it is allright? 3) If you are going to cold call in person, then ask the receptionist for the name, and that you will call to make an appointment, but if that person is available now, that you would be glad to meet with them. This has got me in the door on some occaisions, but more often than not, you will have to call for the appointment. Either way, it shows your proffesionalism, and will get you better results. Note: I seriously doubt that you will get in, cold calling in person, with trainees in tow. I'm not goin to debate if Cydcore is a cult or not, just wanted to offer some advice on good selling. So with that, I will bid you farewell.
Rob Wilson
Independence,#7UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, December 10, 2004
Well, Where do I begin? Its a common addage that where there is smoke there is fire correct? One has to only examine the sheer ammount of complaints about these companies to be able to draw a conclusion as to how pathetic they are. I can state this from experience as well. Whats so odd is that if you look around you will see some people that defend these companies, only to later come back and bash them. What does this tell you? That the whole brainwashing technique is indeed working efficently. When I was a recent grad out of The University Of Missouri, I too, fell for one of these clone companies ads. Anyone, even those who are high school droputs let alone college grads, could certainly find something better to do than get invloved with these deploreable companies. Sooner or later, even people as absent minded as our Renee here, will come to see the error of her ways. For those of you interested in joining a particulairly large class action lawsuit against DS-MAX, Granton, Cydcor, and all its clone s, I am glad to announce that we have finally got a decent law firm (Humphrey, Farrington, and McClian) to take action. We have almost 3000 claimants so far and are planning a lawsuit that is sure to reach in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Any former Employee is urged to join us, and any individual with any specific evidence or particularly damming experience I urge you to contact me so that we may add your deposition. With any luck, if we combine our resources we may even be able to save Renee from herslef! Cheers!
Maggie
Dresher,#8Consumer Comment
Mon, August 16, 2004
Dear Renee, Yes, I definitely have interest in going to the media about Empire Marketing and Cydcor as a whole. I have contacted Fox Undercover about Empire Marketing, but they called me back when I was driving in my car and we got disconnected. I plan on calling them again to tell them the rest of the story. This company has to be shut down. It not only rips off companies, but it certainly hurts those who work for them, too (whether they realize it at first or not). CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Ren
Huntingdon Valley,#9UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, August 16, 2004
Yeah, I wrote my own rip-off report a few weeks ago. Glad you got out. If you scroll back a few weeks you will pribily find my report, actually. It may be a decent idea to link them. My question is...do you have any interest in going to the media with this?
Maggie
Ambler,#10Author of original report
Thu, August 12, 2004
You see, even you are a little drone of Empire Marketing. Your support system IS BRAINWAINWASHING. ISOLATING EMPLOYEES FROM INFLUENCES OUTSIDE THE COMPANY. And here you are saying "gotta work hard for it." Isn't signing away your LABOR RIGHTS a little suspicious?! It's not a sales job my a*s. Come on, when they told me how you move up in the company and what you do...they told me even the MANAGERS go DOOR TO DOOR. I have the full story--my experience is one of many and reading this website, I learned about what it's like to ACCEPT the position and even how "wonderful" it is to be a manager (sure you make 100,000, but most of it goes right back into maintaining the splinter business. Doesn't seem so glamourous to me!) and perhaps you should read every post about Cydcor on this website so you, TOO, have the FULL STORY.
Maggie
Ambler,#11Author of original report
Thu, August 12, 2004
You see, even you are a little drone of Empire Marketing. Your support system IS BRAINWAINWASHING. ISOLATING EMPLOYEES FROM INFLUENCES OUTSIDE THE COMPANY. And here you are saying "gotta work hard for it." Isn't signing away your LABOR RIGHTS a little suspicious?! It's not a sales job my a*s. Come on, when they told me how you move up in the company and what you do...they told me even the MANAGERS go DOOR TO DOOR. I have the full story--my experience is one of many and reading this website, I learned about what it's like to ACCEPT the position and even how "wonderful" it is to be a manager (sure you make 100,000, but most of it goes right back into maintaining the splinter business. Doesn't seem so glamourous to me!) and perhaps you should read every post about Cydcor on this website so you, TOO, have the FULL STORY.
Maggie
Ambler,#12Author of original report
Thu, August 12, 2004
You see, even you are a little drone of Empire Marketing. Your support system IS BRAINWAINWASHING. ISOLATING EMPLOYEES FROM INFLUENCES OUTSIDE THE COMPANY. And here you are saying "gotta work hard for it." Isn't signing away your LABOR RIGHTS a little suspicious?! It's not a sales job my a*s. Come on, when they told me how you move up in the company and what you do...they told me even the MANAGERS go DOOR TO DOOR. I have the full story--my experience is one of many and reading this website, I learned about what it's like to ACCEPT the position and even how "wonderful" it is to be a manager (sure you make 100,000, but most of it goes right back into maintaining the splinter business. Doesn't seem so glamourous to me!) and perhaps you should read every post about Cydcor on this website so you, TOO, have the FULL STORY.
Maggie
Ambler,#13Author of original report
Thu, August 12, 2004
You see, even you are a little drone of Empire Marketing. Your support system IS BRAINWAINWASHING. ISOLATING EMPLOYEES FROM INFLUENCES OUTSIDE THE COMPANY. And here you are saying "gotta work hard for it." Isn't signing away your LABOR RIGHTS a little suspicious?! It's not a sales job my a*s. Come on, when they told me how you move up in the company and what you do...they told me even the MANAGERS go DOOR TO DOOR. I have the full story--my experience is one of many and reading this website, I learned about what it's like to ACCEPT the position and even how "wonderful" it is to be a manager (sure you make 100,000, but most of it goes right back into maintaining the splinter business. Doesn't seem so glamourous to me!) and perhaps you should read every post about Cydcor on this website so you, TOO, have the FULL STORY.
Renee
Chicago,#14REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, August 11, 2004
I worked out of that office on a road trip once.. so I speak from personal experience working with Liz and her crew. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A SALES JOB! They are teaching people how to run their own business. Can you work a 40 hour week and advance as quickly as Empire lets you? NO! Do you know that 85% of businesses fail in the US in their first 2 years? 20% of Cydcor businesses fail. Because of the support system that we have. Do you have to work hard for it? yes! Is everyone willing to do it? no! Is that what success is? yes! 2% of Americans make six figures salaries... it's not an easy task. If you can't sacrifice you shouldn't criticize either. It's not for everyone.. and you are entitled to your opinion. But get the full story before you attach something.