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Complaint Review: Gateway Chevrolet Chicago - Chicago Illinois

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Gateway Chevrolet Chicago
5373 N Milwaukee Ave Chicago, 60030 Illinois, U.S.A.
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I filled out an online form from Carloans.com and received calls from various dealerships that wanted me to come into the dealership. I received a call from Gateway saying that I was approved for a car loan and they wanted me to bring in pay stubbs, utility bills, rent receipts etc....I was referred to a salesman by the name of Eddie. I gave him all the info requested and told him about my credit situation. He ran my credit report (which I thought I'd done all of that with Carloans.com) and was told I needed a co-signor. I was reluctant but my best friend areed to do it.

I was told everything was in order and I picked a nice 2002 car. I asked Eddie if everything was in order because I'd gone through Gateway years ago and put down a down payment, went home with the car and had for four weeks only to get a phone call for the dealership telling me I had to bring the car back because I worked a temp job and banks didn't finance people who worked for temp agencies. I brought the car back with some hassle from the dealership. I explained this to Eddie and he told me everything was final and to enjoy my car. Well, sure enough three and half weeks after having this car I got a call from Eddie telling me to bring the car back and we could try another program. I said no I want my down payment back. He said I would have to pay for the days I had the car out, as if it were a rental. I said no I didn't come to your dealership for a rental car. When you send people off the lot without having them financed for a car, that was risk you run for lying to them.

He told me to bring the car in and I would get my money back. I came into the dealership with my aunt and he tried for an hour to change my mind about working with another program. I said no for an hour and was getting very upset. He told me I was having buyer's remorse. I said no, you were the ones that told ME to bring the car back. After sitting in the dealership for over two hours.

I was cut a check in the name of my co-signor. I told Eddie, my co-signor wasn't the one who gave Gateway the downpayment. I wanted the check in my name. He told me no for legal reasons. I said fine add my name to the check, they agreed. He brings over the check only it was signed. Eddie said there was problem. The person that signs the check had left for the day. At this point I was enraged, because he knew I was coming into the dealership for my downpayment. He then checks the car and tell me about some damage I was unaware of. He told me that would cost $200 off the top of his head. He said that price was quoted from the higher ups on the premises. By this time I was LIVID! I marched back into the dealership, told him I would be here first thing in the morning and to have my check ready. I cause a scene in the dealership that day.

The next day I went to the dealership and got my check minus the supposed $200 in damage and minus the insurance they put down on the car for a day when I initially left the dealership because they were going to get back the full amount form the insurance co. so they deducted the amount from my check (down payment).

I will tell any that will listen never do business with GATEWAY. The dealership is a ripoff

Nick

Chicago, Illinois
U.S.A.



5 Updates & Rebuttals

Prefer Not To Say

Prefer Not To Say,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Inside info Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia., National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD.

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, September 29, 2004

Just for everybody's information, i was an employee indirectly for Gateway Chevy and it's partner dealer, Gateway Kia in Des Plaines, IL. The whole process these dealers use is quite complex, but i will try and lay it out for everyone. firstly, Gateway recieves auto application leads from places like 1800Buy-a-car, www.customerfunding.com, or www.4easycredit.com., etc. , and they are faxed over to a telemarketing company of which the owner is friends with the two Gateway GM's: Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia. Next, the telemarketing employees, most of which are paid poorly, call up these prospective applicants telling them they have been 'approved', 'pre-approved', or 'qualified'; depending literally on the mood of the employee, and that they must come down to the dealership that day if they want a vehicle. You see, when i was employed my boss expected us to hit a particular quota for each day; around 100 people in Chevy and around 50-60 in Kia EVERY DAY! If you average in the fact that around 5%-7% of all arriving appointments CAN actually get a vehicle because their credit is actually good enough, you can see that there must be tons of pissed off people in an around Chicago due to this buisness partnership. I never had an idea as to just how much money my former boss was paid in his partnership, but he is a multi-millionaire so it must be plenty. It's just simply a numbers game. The more people we send in, regardless if they can be helped or not, the more vehicles they can possibly sell. We were instructed not to care about the customers personal problems either, like if someone only has a couple bucks to take public transportation to the dealer, we would reassure them that it's 'no money down' and 'we'll provide the transportation back with your new car' and all that other bull. I have countless stories of people being stranded in a town they're not familiar with, or people yelling, swearing, and even crying to me over the phone about their experience at Gateway. And that's just my side. From what i hear the actual dealership employees are far worse. I've even heard of one of the salesman at chevy named Bill K. attacking a customer. My conscience has decided that i had to leave that telemarketing company and stop putting my sweat and energy into someone elses misery and pain, and at the same time putting tons of money into some rich auto dealers pockets. And for the sake of TRUTH i'll also post the telemarketing company's info as well. The name of the company is: National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD. Located at 401 Prospect Ave. in Mount Prospect, IL. And if you also want the telemarketing phone #, i believe it's still 847-637-1196 last time i checked. Please, do yourself and your family a favor and tell everyone you can about this. I'll post later if i feel the time is right, or if anyone has a questions.


Prefer Not To Say

Prefer Not To Say,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Inside info Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia., National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD.

#3UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, September 29, 2004

Just for everybody's information, i was an employee indirectly for Gateway Chevy and it's partner dealer, Gateway Kia in Des Plaines, IL. The whole process these dealers use is quite complex, but i will try and lay it out for everyone. firstly, Gateway recieves auto application leads from places like 1800Buy-a-car, www.customerfunding.com, or www.4easycredit.com., etc. , and they are faxed over to a telemarketing company of which the owner is friends with the two Gateway GM's: Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia. Next, the telemarketing employees, most of which are paid poorly, call up these prospective applicants telling them they have been 'approved', 'pre-approved', or 'qualified'; depending literally on the mood of the employee, and that they must come down to the dealership that day if they want a vehicle. You see, when i was employed my boss expected us to hit a particular quota for each day; around 100 people in Chevy and around 50-60 in Kia EVERY DAY! If you average in the fact that around 5%-7% of all arriving appointments CAN actually get a vehicle because their credit is actually good enough, you can see that there must be tons of pissed off people in an around Chicago due to this buisness partnership. I never had an idea as to just how much money my former boss was paid in his partnership, but he is a multi-millionaire so it must be plenty. It's just simply a numbers game. The more people we send in, regardless if they can be helped or not, the more vehicles they can possibly sell. We were instructed not to care about the customers personal problems either, like if someone only has a couple bucks to take public transportation to the dealer, we would reassure them that it's 'no money down' and 'we'll provide the transportation back with your new car' and all that other bull. I have countless stories of people being stranded in a town they're not familiar with, or people yelling, swearing, and even crying to me over the phone about their experience at Gateway. And that's just my side. From what i hear the actual dealership employees are far worse. I've even heard of one of the salesman at chevy named Bill K. attacking a customer. My conscience has decided that i had to leave that telemarketing company and stop putting my sweat and energy into someone elses misery and pain, and at the same time putting tons of money into some rich auto dealers pockets. And for the sake of TRUTH i'll also post the telemarketing company's info as well. The name of the company is: National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD. Located at 401 Prospect Ave. in Mount Prospect, IL. And if you also want the telemarketing phone #, i believe it's still 847-637-1196 last time i checked. Please, do yourself and your family a favor and tell everyone you can about this. I'll post later if i feel the time is right, or if anyone has a questions.


Prefer Not To Say

Prefer Not To Say,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Inside info Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia., National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD.

#4UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, September 29, 2004

Just for everybody's information, i was an employee indirectly for Gateway Chevy and it's partner dealer, Gateway Kia in Des Plaines, IL. The whole process these dealers use is quite complex, but i will try and lay it out for everyone. firstly, Gateway recieves auto application leads from places like 1800Buy-a-car, www.customerfunding.com, or www.4easycredit.com., etc. , and they are faxed over to a telemarketing company of which the owner is friends with the two Gateway GM's: Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia. Next, the telemarketing employees, most of which are paid poorly, call up these prospective applicants telling them they have been 'approved', 'pre-approved', or 'qualified'; depending literally on the mood of the employee, and that they must come down to the dealership that day if they want a vehicle. You see, when i was employed my boss expected us to hit a particular quota for each day; around 100 people in Chevy and around 50-60 in Kia EVERY DAY! If you average in the fact that around 5%-7% of all arriving appointments CAN actually get a vehicle because their credit is actually good enough, you can see that there must be tons of pissed off people in an around Chicago due to this buisness partnership. I never had an idea as to just how much money my former boss was paid in his partnership, but he is a multi-millionaire so it must be plenty. It's just simply a numbers game. The more people we send in, regardless if they can be helped or not, the more vehicles they can possibly sell. We were instructed not to care about the customers personal problems either, like if someone only has a couple bucks to take public transportation to the dealer, we would reassure them that it's 'no money down' and 'we'll provide the transportation back with your new car' and all that other bull. I have countless stories of people being stranded in a town they're not familiar with, or people yelling, swearing, and even crying to me over the phone about their experience at Gateway. And that's just my side. From what i hear the actual dealership employees are far worse. I've even heard of one of the salesman at chevy named Bill K. attacking a customer. My conscience has decided that i had to leave that telemarketing company and stop putting my sweat and energy into someone elses misery and pain, and at the same time putting tons of money into some rich auto dealers pockets. And for the sake of TRUTH i'll also post the telemarketing company's info as well. The name of the company is: National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD. Located at 401 Prospect Ave. in Mount Prospect, IL. And if you also want the telemarketing phone #, i believe it's still 847-637-1196 last time i checked. Please, do yourself and your family a favor and tell everyone you can about this. I'll post later if i feel the time is right, or if anyone has a questions.


Prefer Not To Say

Prefer Not To Say,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Inside info Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia., National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD.

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, September 29, 2004

Just for everybody's information, i was an employee indirectly for Gateway Chevy and it's partner dealer, Gateway Kia in Des Plaines, IL. The whole process these dealers use is quite complex, but i will try and lay it out for everyone. firstly, Gateway recieves auto application leads from places like 1800Buy-a-car, www.customerfunding.com, or www.4easycredit.com., etc. , and they are faxed over to a telemarketing company of which the owner is friends with the two Gateway GM's: Eric Green of Gateway Chevy and Craig Andreas of Gateway Kia. Next, the telemarketing employees, most of which are paid poorly, call up these prospective applicants telling them they have been 'approved', 'pre-approved', or 'qualified'; depending literally on the mood of the employee, and that they must come down to the dealership that day if they want a vehicle. You see, when i was employed my boss expected us to hit a particular quota for each day; around 100 people in Chevy and around 50-60 in Kia EVERY DAY! If you average in the fact that around 5%-7% of all arriving appointments CAN actually get a vehicle because their credit is actually good enough, you can see that there must be tons of pissed off people in an around Chicago due to this buisness partnership. I never had an idea as to just how much money my former boss was paid in his partnership, but he is a multi-millionaire so it must be plenty. It's just simply a numbers game. The more people we send in, regardless if they can be helped or not, the more vehicles they can possibly sell. We were instructed not to care about the customers personal problems either, like if someone only has a couple bucks to take public transportation to the dealer, we would reassure them that it's 'no money down' and 'we'll provide the transportation back with your new car' and all that other bull. I have countless stories of people being stranded in a town they're not familiar with, or people yelling, swearing, and even crying to me over the phone about their experience at Gateway. And that's just my side. From what i hear the actual dealership employees are far worse. I've even heard of one of the salesman at chevy named Bill K. attacking a customer. My conscience has decided that i had to leave that telemarketing company and stop putting my sweat and energy into someone elses misery and pain, and at the same time putting tons of money into some rich auto dealers pockets. And for the sake of TRUTH i'll also post the telemarketing company's info as well. The name of the company is: National Telerep Marketing Systems LTD. Located at 401 Prospect Ave. in Mount Prospect, IL. And if you also want the telemarketing phone #, i believe it's still 847-637-1196 last time i checked. Please, do yourself and your family a favor and tell everyone you can about this. I'll post later if i feel the time is right, or if anyone has a questions.


Nicole

Ottawa,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
DO NOT go to Gateway you will pay for it for a long time

#6REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, June 30, 2004

I had a very similar situation as some of these people did at Gateway. I called before I went up to the dealer and spoke to Sabastion. I explained I wanted to trade in my car for a used vehicle about worth 6,000. When I went up there everything was fine at first. Then he had his sales manager Bill come and talk to us and after being there for 7 hours while they were supposidly going back and forth with the finance company he came back and told me I could not get financed for a used car because I had filed bankruptcy two years ago, and I would be able to get a new cavalier. So they told me that I would be getting $1000 for my trade in and that when we signed the papers we were to get a 4000 dollar rebate. On the contract they had the 4000 off and 0 for the trade-in, when i asked about where the trade-in was they turned off their camera and had their manager Bill come in and talk to me but would not agree to turn on the camera and say it on tape, yeah right there I should have left, but being there for 7 hours and wanting to get out of there and having the excitement of a new car I signed the papers and drove away. After looking over the contract, I realized alot of things that were not right. The car listed at 15,000 somehow I ended up financing 20,000, mind you that I had supposidly $4000 in rebates. I bought it on Saturday and went back first thing Monday morning and tried to take the car back because things were not right. I spoke to Sebastion and Bill and both gave me a hard time. Bill told me to get the hell out of his store. I called the police because I was told by law I had 72 hours to return the car. The polices first words were we are not very fond of this dealer they are a rip-off. They could not do anything but gave me numbers to bbb, and states attorneys office. I proceeded with all of that and filed a complaint with GM motors against the dealer. The general manager called me a week later and said he would see what he could do, his name was Eric. He was very friendly, and I thought he was going to help me but he never called back like he promised. Advice for anyone who is desperate for a car DO NOT go to Gateway you will pay for it for a long time.

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