Complaint Review: Genuine Marketing Solutions - Livonia Michigan

Genuine went under. Stiff is selling cars now. JUICE!

Lord help us all if Quantum goes International.

All I have to say is that for anyone that works for Quantum, WAKE UP! I used to work for this joke of a company for about 6 months. It was a waste of time. It took up a lot of time and you didn't get any financial reward out of it. It also affects your personal life and if you didn't notice, why do Quantum people only tend to hang out with Quantum People. And a lot Quantum people end up dating Quantum people. In most companies isn't it frowned upon about dating within the company? Anyways long story short, my owner ended up having to move in with one of his leaders. If this owner was making so much money as they hype up to all the distributors and days of O, why was he sleeping on his leaders couch with no CAR!

Ok, I don't know how long you worked at GMS (was it 3 weeks???) but I can see you bought all the brainwashed stuff they told you. Good job paying attention at the opportunity meeting (i doubt it was more than one you attended). Well, I worked there 9 months, I quit for personal reasons that had nothing to do with the business. First of all, Robbie doesn't get $45,000 from the offices he helped open. He only gets the $15,000 from his first generation deals unless he's a regional. Genelle is a 2nd generation deal, therefore no money, Key blew the business after being put on a retrain (means he didn't make enough money in this lucrative business) - oops there goes another $15,000. That leaves only Nick B. in Ohio, who is now his only 1st generation outside deal, unless right after Key quit he got 2 new deals. Now, as for the money he makes. In a good week, the office drops 1700 pieces. The office makes $2, on average, a piece, which is $3400. Now, you say there is the lease he shares with Brandon Keith, fine. But there is herb-joy, lawyers, recruiting (careerbuilder etc), admin (she gets paid about $12/hour and does a lot of hard work), event coordinator (3% of overall profits), his hub ($150), broken items, office supplies, electricity, insurance, taxes (payroll & social security taxes - because you are an employee not a independent contractor at GMS), phone, internet, alarm system etc. I am fuzzy on some of the numbers, but it's every week. So now it's about $1500 a week (you said $4000/week). Also, he has to put money aside to open up outside deals - and some of them fail. He has to pay for trips, too. Yeah, those Christmas parties, Leaders meetings in Dallas, hotels for leaders meetings and team-days are paid by Robbie not Quantum. So after all that, in a good week, he has $1000 left. I admit, it sounds good, but after putting 70 hours a week into the business, that's a crazy amount of about $14 an hour. Remember, this was a good week. Wow!! Now, I have heard it out of the mouth of Mike P. (the president of quantum) himself, that most new owners (he was referring to Robbie and Brandon) only make about 50,000 a year even though they want us to belief they make more (his words not mine). It's not bad, but working 70 hours a week for that?!? He also said that's why they want to make it to Regionals and VP's - it's called dangling the carrot or chasing the white rabbit as Mr. Stiff would say. About the firings, I am pretty sure I have seen more in 9 months than you have in 3 weeks!!

Wow these are the keywords they use on career builder so any of these you type in they will come up Keywords: SALES, CUSTOMER SERVICE, MANAGER, MARKETING, ACCOUNTING, CLERICAL, MANAGEMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, HUMAN RESOURCES, RECEPTIONIST, ENTRY LEVEL, WAREHOUSE, DIRECTOR, RETAIL, EDUCATION, PROJECT MANAGER, ACCOUNTANT, ENGINEERING, TEACHER, DATA ENTRY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, RESTAURANT, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, QUALITY, ASSISTANT, SECRETARY, ADVERTISING, SUPERVISOR, PUBLIC RELATIONS, OFFICE, PAYROLL, ADMIN, PROJECT MANAGER, WRITER, ORACLE, HOTEL, SAFETY, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, COMMUNICATIONS, TRAINING, HUMAN RESOURCES, OFFICE MANAGER, GENERAL, EXECUTIVE, VICE PRESIDENT, SOCIAL SERVICES, SOCIAL WORK, ENTRY LEVEL, SALES MANAGER, PHARMACUTICAL SALES, BUYER, FOOD, JOBS, PRODUCTION, ALL, RECRUITER, PRESIDENT, BARTENDER, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, HOSPITALITY key words: receptionist, administrator, administration, entry level, marketing, customer service, sales, public relations, telemarketing, restaurant, foodservice, retail, bartender Posted: 6/4/2008 Location: US-MI-Detroit US-MI-Detroit Base Pay: N/A Other Pay: Bonuses Structure and Travel Opportunities Employee Type: Full-Time Employee Industry: Sales - Marketing Employment - Recruiting - Staffing Public Relations Manages Others: No Job Type: Marketing Sales Entry Level Req'd Education: Not Specified Req'd Experience: 0 to 3 year(s) Req'd Travel: None Relocation Covered: No OH and there's no required travel? Yeah only 2 hours of driving a day with no reimbursment.

Ok I just had to clear this up. True some people do quit once they realize it's a scam, but A LOT of the people get fired. It's funny that they quit but on the same day they "quit" (really fired) some of them are talking about how the hope the DONT get fired. They get fired because they aren't making the owner money. Robbie doesn't say everybody get's fired, when they get fired he says they got fired when they quit he says they quit. And they don't make any money? The office at a minimum does $4,000 dollars a week, MINIMUM. That's all his money theres no payroll that comes out of it, they have to pay lease but that's split with Brandon Keith. I don't know where you got your information from but they make a ridiculous ammount of money, Robbie get's $45,000 dollars a year from Quantum for the other scam offices he helped open. Do the math, if the office only did $4,000 dollars a week which is usally more thats $204,000 dollars a year plus the money from Quantum $15,000 for each office I think is $249,000 A YEAR. So it doesn't really look to me like their close to broke, and thats a minimum. Thanks, just had to straighten that out.

I really need to respond to this one. Robbie never fires anyone. I did work there for some time and heard him say he fired people because of ...blah blah... well, he never really did. His great opportunity would look pretty bad if people actually chose to walk away from it. It's also a great "fear of loss" for people that are still there. Making you think you need to work hard or that's it. Trust me, those people quit. He lies about the reason people leave, even badmouths people once they're gone. I've seen it, I've heard it all. Well, thing is, you call that person that got "fired" and they tell you a very different story. I am still friends with people that worked at GMS with me... most of them were supposedly fired, when I know they chose to walk away from the opportunity and don't regret it. Another thing is, the owners don't make a substantial amount of money. They have to talk, act, do like they make money but it's all fake. I suggest you visit this site (((ROR redacted))). There is a bunch of former employees and owner who say they were always just over broke. sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.