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Sacramento,#2Author of original report
Mon, April 01, 2013
Nothing more than absolute rubbish and garbage from the owner. Here are further contradictions that need to be exposed:
1. Insulting this report which is a forum for helping consumers in a positive way. I personally have known people who have gotten back refunds from bad businesses because of the existence of this site. It is with this reputation that I have posted the exposure of this deceptive owner here.
2. Why is the owner so bent on Russia and the Ukraine? Are they the only countries in all of the whole wide world? There was one guy I know of who found a relationship with a woman from France. That is country that happens to be outside of the United States of America last I checked. There is another guy who also found a relationship with someone in England. Another country outside of the United States.
You see in Russia and in the Ukraine it is easier to get away with Scams since corruption is part of the mainstay of these places for the purposes of survival many times in these harsh economies and countries and no matter how "perfect" the image that the owner wants to create he himself cannot deny that no business of this kind dealing with Russia and the Ukraine will be 100% squeaky clean.
3. If the owner is so "helpful" as claimed then render your services for FREE. DO NOT MAKE A PROFIT FROM IT AT ALL. In that way we can put the owner to the test which ultimately he will indeed FAIL both miserably and indeed horribly.
4. The owner still has not addressed sufficiently the issues raised in the first exposure of his contradictions.
Here again the False Image of the owner is seen and his False image that he indeed creates is most certainly exposed.
Alan and Antonia Larsen
Springville,#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, February 17, 2013
I find it very interesting that when I recently wrote a rebuttal to the previous complaint seeking to expose me as someone I am not, that this site would not post it... What does that say for this site???
If you will read the previous report and apply any amount of common sense and reason, a normal person should be able to see through all of this poorly thought out bologna. I hesitate to say too much here because this site may not post it. I will say that it is a sad state of affairs that a site allows the desecration of a company or individual without allowing a full response from the attacked party. Please simply use your own common sense and good, reasonable judgement.
Every single allegation against me is 100% false, and I believe is designed interestingly enough...not to protect men from scams and fraud...but to force people like me to spend money to protect their good reputations. Additionally, it is easy to find both positive and very negative information about sites such as the one you are on right now. Just Google away... And I have said previously, if you have a feeling that your soul-mate may be somewhere outside the US, such as in Russia or Ukraine...then please write, and we will speak personally with you over the telephone. We honestly have your interest at heart, and would love you to enjoy the same rich and wonderfully happy marriage we have.
Sincerely,
Alan and Antonia Larsen
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Sacramento,#4Author of original report
Sat, February 09, 2013
These days it seems that every scammer out there is out to get your money from you it seems with all the trappings that can be seen that come camouflaged in very flowery and nice language with deception that is clearly behind the scenes in their motives and hidden in their agendas. No different is seen here. I do not know who wrote the other report on this site but I believe that most likely they had full justification to in doing so. However I wish to expose the owner, Alan Larsen of Utah contradictions in regards to his own contradictory words:
Contradiction #1: The owner Alan Larsen says and I quote:
"WE ARE NOT RACIST
Incidentally, after my divorce I seriously dated an African/American
woman, as well as incredible women from America and Hong Kong."
In other words the owner was an experimenter or game player. Someone who wanted to use African American women and Asian women like if they were part of some lab experiment. However even after the experimentation he returned to being with someone from his own race. If he is not a racist or not prejudiced then why not stay with someone outside of his racial sphere (Note the word STAY). Why Experiment? This is feature of those especially Caucasians full of racial prejudice in that they experiment with other races and they think that because they have had experimental experience that this disqualifies them from being stained with racial bias. However let it be known that this does not mean that one cannot be racist in any way, shape or form just because one had several flings or experimental encounters with those outside of one's racial sphere.
Note: AGAIN A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY ANYTHING TO GET YOUR MONEY IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN AND THIS IS CLEARLY SEEN HERE.
Contradiction # 2: The owner Alan Larsen says and I repeat again:
"WE ARE NOT RACIST"
Note the plural word "We" which indicates this is referring to Antonia that he has mentioned. Let's ask ourselves a question: What other-race relationship encounters or experience outside of her own racial bracket does she have? Let's assume ZERO. This means therefore that the idea that she cannot be racist is absurd and because of this the preponderance of evidence can indeed more than likely weigh heavily in favor of Antonia being racially prejudiced and racially biased (because her Russian culture does come with that stigma sadly that can be seen at times). Let us ask ourselves another question: Why would a woman with ZERO other-race relationship encounters want to connect or hook up men of other races with women of her own race?
ANSWER: MONEY TALKS AND MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY ANYTHING IN ORDER TO GET YOUR MONEY WHILE THEY ARE RACIALLY PREJUDICED AND BIASED AGAINST SOMEONE IN THE PROCESS.
Contradiction #3: The owner Alan Larsen speaks of his divorce and then finding a so-called "love" after divorce. One must believe then that the person he divorced from would qualify under the term experiment since we are talking about the subject of experimentation here and so no wonder he was willing to experiment with women from outside his race later on like if they were rats in a lab experiment because the person/wife he was formerly with was simply an experiment to be used and then thrown away.
Interesting that this experimenter Alan Larsen tries to give 100% commitment of himself in his business practices when he could not even be committed to reconciliation that would have prevented any divorced OR be committed to a relationship outside of his racial zone by staying in one. Then again...
MANY PEOPLE LOVE TO SAY ANYTHING THEY WISH IN ORDER TO GET THEIR HANDS ON YOUR MONEY AND SUCH IS INDEED THE CASE HERE.
Alan and Antonia Larsen
Springville,#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, February 04, 2013
Hello. Antonia and I are owners and founders of Together Forever International, LLC., and would like to take this opportunity to offer a strong rebuttal to the complaint filed here on RipOffReport.com. Incidentally, at the present time we have two websites; one Together Forever Int, which is our older site, and a new site which is offline and under construction. These new websites will be sister sites upon updating and completion.
TOGETHER FOREVER ARE HONEST AND MEANINGFUL WORDS
The main focus of the complaint herein filed seems to be that our websites create a false image designed to lure men into marrying Russian and Ukrainian ladies, with no chance of a genuinely happy, lasting marriage, and that the mere use of the words Together Forever are misrepresentations which create a false image THIS IS NOT TRUE!
WE ARE NOT RACIST
Another untrue accusation in the complaint is that we are racist! Wow! What an accusation founded on empty logic, and no conversation with us to base this charge upon. I was born and raised in Utah. There are certainly many wonderful and beautiful American as well as foreign woman. We would never want to attempt to lead anyone into believing that all the outstanding women are somehow located outside the USA. That would be absurd! I have two wonderful sisters, an awesome mother, and personally hold in the highest esteem many wonderful American women! Incidentally, after my divorce I seriously dated an African/American woman, as well
as incredible women from America and Hong Kong. The fact is that I was smart enough to search the world over for my marvelous and amazing wife. I knew in my heart of hearts that somewhere on this planet of ours...lived the love of my life... I would just need to find her. In my heart I had absolutely no prejudice. I did not care care at all about race, religion or nationality! I just knew that she was somewhere...waiting for me! I only needed to find her! ...And I did! So, needless to say...the accusations of racism or prejudice...could not be further from the truth!
WE HAVE GREAT INTEGRETY
We find it quite interesting that some of what is said in the complaint can actually be true regarding scams and difficulties in finding and successfully marrying a Russian or Ukrainian lady using an internet site. Many of our competitors in this business have little integrity, and are only in it for the money. Even so, this is how I find my amazing and beautiful wife, Antonia, but I was very careful during the process. Though there are many sincere and honest ladies on these sites, it is not so simple to find the right girl. And most of these agencies are owned primarily in Russia by people who have little regard for actually achieving the goal of helping couples enjoy a happy and lasting marriage... But that is our primary goal..and we do have success in this area!
WE ARE REAL PEOPLE
One such success story is our own, and you can learn more about our story by going to one of our sites or by writing to or calling us directly. It is important to know how difficult it is for a man to actually have a successful marriage using any internet site, foreign and domestic! However, it is disingenuous for the person writing the complaint to say that we are creating a false image or scamming by using the words Together Forever, or to suggest that we are doing business with anything other than the best of intentions and moral, honest business practices. This person could have at least first performed a little due diligence by communicating with us rather than just jumping to ridiculous conclusions based on some unfortunate experiences of some men. Moreover, we personally have been part of bringing to pass the successful marriages of several Russian/Ukrainian ladies to American and foreign men!
WE HAVE GREAT EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE
Antonia has had many years in the Russian and Ukrainian dating and marriage business while living in
Russia. She is a very warm, caring and intelligent person who you would love to get to know. The key to being successful with an internet dating and marriage site with foreign ladies is this: Use a site and people you trust! A good way to gain that trust is through telephone visits with the owners. Then once you develop trust, if you do, take their advice! Antonia and I freely visit by telephone anytime and offer as much personal support and advice as we can to all of our clients!
DON'T GO IT ALONE
One problem we have found in this business is that often when a man tries to go it alone, the results are often not the desired outcome. Many men just are inexperienced or gullible, and are open to being scammed. In fact, recently when my beautiful Russian wife, Antonia, accompanied me to the airport to pick up our 13 year old son from his sumer vacation visiting his Russian dad and grandparents, I noticed a man with a bouquet of flowers waiting for someone in the luggage area. I approached him and said that the person for whom he is waiting must
have been gone a long time. He said he had never met her. Immediately, I felt apprehension. I then asked more, and he said she was from Russia. I asked if he was certain she boarded the plane, and he said that he thought so. Hmm.. My next question was, did you send her money, to which he replied, yes. Then my heart sank. I was now certain of what had happened because I knew he made two big mistakes: 1. He sent money before a personal meeting. 2. He didn't know that it is virtually impossible for a Russian or Ukrainian lady of marriageable age to enter the USA any way but with fiance visa (which requires in person meeting and extensive documentation to prove a genuine relationship). Needless to say, no one showed up...and this unsuspecting, good man was heartbroken...
WE HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE AND KNOW HOW TO HELP
Scams involving beautiful young women, or alleged women are extensive, but not just through websites, also through direct internet such as e-mail and searching. I was even scammed that way myself after my divorce. I became suspicious and learned that the beautiful woman in the pictures was really a man from Ghana, and I even talked him into showing me his real picture. I just cringed... I'm so happy I uncovered that scam before spending much time and before sending any money. By the way, this scammer actually told me he makes quite a bit of money scamming unsuspecting, lonely men, and went on to say that these men are very naive and stupid.
WE ARE HERE FOR YOU
The unfortunate stories quoted on this complaint may be entirely true. Assuming they are, I believe
that these men likely bear some responsibility for not being careful enough. This is further evidence of the importance of using the help of trusted honest, reputable, people who have much expertise...and who have your interest at heart. This is who we are!
WE LIVE IN THE USA
We currently reside in Utah and have eight affiliate Russian and Ukrainian agencies with physical offices
and honest, caring, hard working associates. Antonia and I are more deeply in love than ever! We have been married seven years now...and plan on continuing to grow in love, harmony...and, yes, being happily married Together Forever.......
PLEASE LET US HELP YOU SUCCEED
So, if you are interested in searching for a Russian or Ukrainian wife, you need to know that itis not a simple process. Be very careful! There are indeed many scammers out there! However, it is still very possible to find your true soul-mate and live happily Together Forever!Just please let us help you personally. Don't go it alone. In fact, one of our clients from Canada decided after a only a little personal help...to just do everything else himself, but we kept in touch, We told him that we saw red flags and were very concerned with his girlfriends motives. However, he thought he knew better...and ended up heartbroken and in a legal battle with his Russian wife. Because he knew of our genuine concern and expertise...he decided to let us help him try again. This time he listened to our advice and is now very happily married! And guess what?... We believe this time they will also be happily married and Together Forever!...
WE HAVE YOUR INTEREST AT HEART
We sincerely have the interest of our men at heart! We also genuinely value our Russian and Ukrainian
women! We know that this proposition is not just one-sided. There are also many insincere, selfish and abusive men trying to find much younger, less picky foreign women. However, just because of the fact that there are a certain number of insincere women and deceptive, dishonest men...does not mean that a genuinely happy, loving marriage can not be the result of using a website such as ours! We did it and personally know that just the opposite can be true! There are in fact many truly sincere women (many of whom Antonia knows quite well), as well as many wonderful, honest men! We verify with legal documentation and personally, the authenticity of each woman, and do everything we can to insure the best experiences for our beautiful and sincere ladies as well as for all our men.
WE SINCERELY CARE ABOUT YOU
In one way it is unfortunate that someone would write a complaint about our websites, but fortunate
in another way. At least a reasonable, open-minded gentleman in search of a beautiful and wonderful Russian or Ukrainian woman to marry should be able to read the words here and know that we speak the truth! If you are this man, please do not hesitate to check out our websites. You are also welcome to e-mail us at: togetherforeverint.admin using gmail. If you would like, you can give Antonia or me a good number to call, and we would be more than happy to visit with you by phone.
WE ARE REAL WE CARE WE HELP CREATE HAPPY COUPLES AND FAMILIES
Sincerely,
Alan and Antonia Larsen
Together Forever International, LLC