Spicy4play
Mineola,#2Author of original report
Tue, March 03, 2009
With me loosing my job and being unable to pay the 750$ per month they harassed us on the phone day after day after day for payment. They suspended our account and we cant use the services any longer. So now They sent us a forgiveness of dept federal tax form but are coming after us legally for the balance that is owed on an item we no longer could afford to pay for and never use and don't want. UNREAL!!! Beware!!
Jrybgr
Brownwood,#3Consumer Comment
Sun, February 22, 2009
I have been a Wyndham (Fairfield Owner) owner since 1999. We have used all our points every year from our home resort in CO to trade for airfare. Just this past October I traded some points for airfare and traded for a beach front resort in Cozumel for a week. All this was done only 5 months out. We have never had any trouble getting where we wanted to go. Plan far enough out to be flexable. We have stayed at Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, Vegas (a bunch of times), Pagosa Springs (even at Christmas 4 times) and Sedona. The reservervationist are always very nice and helpful. They have always gone out of thier way to help us get either what we want or something comparable. The cost???? Yea, maybe a little expensive but mine are paid for and have traveled enough to know that Wyndham has been a good investment for me. The resorts have NEVER been dirty. Yes some of the older ones are a little worn due mostly to owners who do not treat it like it was thiers. We always do and have never been disappointed except the one time they moved us to a different unit after we booked a particular unit for a reason. They explained to us how to keep that from happening. The report I am responding to sounds like someone who has not spent any time on how to best use thier points. I does take time to study the rules so that you can use them to YOUR advantage. It is kind of like a game and you must be willing to play. We will be staying at Bonnet Creek in July to take our grandkids to Disney. We got a great 2 bedroom facing the park so we could see the fireworks everynight from our balcony. We booked July 4th week and booked it only 7 months out. Yes it can be done but you must be willing to put out a little effort. If you want a 3/4 bedroom you need to be a gold member so you can book a little farther out. I have been able to get a 3/br at Vegas and at Pagosa. It can be done. I would suggest you get organized and put out a little effort. A investment like a timeshare should at least be worth that
Fredginger
Livermore,#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 16, 2008
PEOPLE TO CONTACT ARE AT THE END OF THIS STATEMENT; Anyone concerned about tax write offs for a tax deduction are out of line. There is no tax deduction because you own nothing, what you own/is a right to use the property, you do not actually own the property as you would with a deeded and recorded timeshare property where you own a week Her with TrendWest/Wyndham you own credits which is a right to use, not ownership. If the company or the timeshare salesperson indicated to you that the property was in fact tax deductible or the interest that you paid on the load was tax deductible they TOLD YOU A STORY, not true. This is in fact in violation of the settlement that they had with the state of California in October 20th, 2003; GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE: http://caag.state.ca.us/newssalerts/2003/03-134.htm and contact the following for your protection and to file a complaint, these are the pople involved in the complain and the final settlement and they are looking for a reason to go back and ind the company some real money. The $4 million they find the compnay in 2003 was jsut the cost of doing business, when you are making FIVE HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR PROFIT WHAT IS $4 MILLION IN FINES? Chuck Finney, Deputy DA, San Maeto County; @[email protected] or call him at (650)363-4097 or write him at 400 County Center/3rd loor; Redwood City, California 94063; or call Michael B. Hughes, Deputy Attorney General; @[email protected]; fax (213)897-4951 or call (213)897-2627 or wirte State of California, Department of Jusitce at 300 South Spring Street, Suite 1702; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013; or Department of Real Eastate State of California ; Janice A. Waddell, Manager Crisis Response Team; 120 West 4th Street, Suite 350; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013-1105 fax (213)576-6901 or call (213)620-6510 these are all individuals that were involved with the original complaint against TrendWEst which is now Wyndham. Furthermore, Wyndham/TrendWest is so OVERSOLD that you will be lucky to ever get into any of the resorts especially in May, June, July or August of each year... Oh, the salesperson forgot to tell you that....and I am willing to bet there were many other things they did not tell you.
Fredginger
Livermore,#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 16, 2008
PEOPLE TO CONTACT ARE AT THE END OF THIS STATEMENT; Anyone concerned about tax write offs for a tax deduction are out of line. There is no tax deduction because you own nothing, what you own/is a right to use the property, you do not actually own the property as you would with a deeded and recorded timeshare property where you own a week Her with TrendWest/Wyndham you own credits which is a right to use, not ownership. If the company or the timeshare salesperson indicated to you that the property was in fact tax deductible or the interest that you paid on the load was tax deductible they TOLD YOU A STORY, not true. This is in fact in violation of the settlement that they had with the state of California in October 20th, 2003; GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE: http://caag.state.ca.us/newssalerts/2003/03-134.htm and contact the following for your protection and to file a complaint, these are the pople involved in the complain and the final settlement and they are looking for a reason to go back and ind the company some real money. The $4 million they find the compnay in 2003 was jsut the cost of doing business, when you are making FIVE HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR PROFIT WHAT IS $4 MILLION IN FINES? Chuck Finney, Deputy DA, San Maeto County; @[email protected] or call him at (650)363-4097 or write him at 400 County Center/3rd loor; Redwood City, California 94063; or call Michael B. Hughes, Deputy Attorney General; @[email protected]; fax (213)897-4951 or call (213)897-2627 or wirte State of California, Department of Jusitce at 300 South Spring Street, Suite 1702; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013; or Department of Real Eastate State of California ; Janice A. Waddell, Manager Crisis Response Team; 120 West 4th Street, Suite 350; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013-1105 fax (213)576-6901 or call (213)620-6510 these are all individuals that were involved with the original complaint against TrendWEst which is now Wyndham. Furthermore, Wyndham/TrendWest is so OVERSOLD that you will be lucky to ever get into any of the resorts especially in May, June, July or August of each year... Oh, the salesperson forgot to tell you that....and I am willing to bet there were many other things they did not tell you.
Fredginger
Livermore,#6UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 16, 2008
PEOPLE TO CONTACT ARE AT THE END OF THIS STATEMENT; Anyone concerned about tax write offs for a tax deduction are out of line. There is no tax deduction because you own nothing, what you own/is a right to use the property, you do not actually own the property as you would with a deeded and recorded timeshare property where you own a week Her with TrendWest/Wyndham you own credits which is a right to use, not ownership. If the company or the timeshare salesperson indicated to you that the property was in fact tax deductible or the interest that you paid on the load was tax deductible they TOLD YOU A STORY, not true. This is in fact in violation of the settlement that they had with the state of California in October 20th, 2003; GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE: http://caag.state.ca.us/newssalerts/2003/03-134.htm and contact the following for your protection and to file a complaint, these are the pople involved in the complain and the final settlement and they are looking for a reason to go back and ind the company some real money. The $4 million they find the compnay in 2003 was jsut the cost of doing business, when you are making FIVE HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR PROFIT WHAT IS $4 MILLION IN FINES? Chuck Finney, Deputy DA, San Maeto County; @[email protected] or call him at (650)363-4097 or write him at 400 County Center/3rd loor; Redwood City, California 94063; or call Michael B. Hughes, Deputy Attorney General; @[email protected]; fax (213)897-4951 or call (213)897-2627 or wirte State of California, Department of Jusitce at 300 South Spring Street, Suite 1702; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013; or Department of Real Eastate State of California ; Janice A. Waddell, Manager Crisis Response Team; 120 West 4th Street, Suite 350; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013-1105 fax (213)576-6901 or call (213)620-6510 these are all individuals that were involved with the original complaint against TrendWEst which is now Wyndham. Furthermore, Wyndham/TrendWest is so OVERSOLD that you will be lucky to ever get into any of the resorts especially in May, June, July or August of each year... Oh, the salesperson forgot to tell you that....and I am willing to bet there were many other things they did not tell you.
Fredginger
Livermore,#7UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 16, 2008
PEOPLE TO CONTACT ARE AT THE END OF THIS STATEMENT; Anyone concerned about tax write offs for a tax deduction are out of line. There is no tax deduction because you own nothing, what you own/is a right to use the property, you do not actually own the property as you would with a deeded and recorded timeshare property where you own a week Her with TrendWest/Wyndham you own credits which is a right to use, not ownership. If the company or the timeshare salesperson indicated to you that the property was in fact tax deductible or the interest that you paid on the load was tax deductible they TOLD YOU A STORY, not true. This is in fact in violation of the settlement that they had with the state of California in October 20th, 2003; GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEB SITE: http://caag.state.ca.us/newssalerts/2003/03-134.htm and contact the following for your protection and to file a complaint, these are the pople involved in the complain and the final settlement and they are looking for a reason to go back and ind the company some real money. The $4 million they find the compnay in 2003 was jsut the cost of doing business, when you are making FIVE HUNDRED MILLION A YEAR PROFIT WHAT IS $4 MILLION IN FINES? Chuck Finney, Deputy DA, San Maeto County; @[email protected] or call him at (650)363-4097 or write him at 400 County Center/3rd loor; Redwood City, California 94063; or call Michael B. Hughes, Deputy Attorney General; @[email protected]; fax (213)897-4951 or call (213)897-2627 or wirte State of California, Department of Jusitce at 300 South Spring Street, Suite 1702; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013; or Department of Real Eastate State of California ; Janice A. Waddell, Manager Crisis Response Team; 120 West 4th Street, Suite 350; Los Angeles, Ca. 90013-1105 fax (213)576-6901 or call (213)620-6510 these are all individuals that were involved with the original complaint against TrendWEst which is now Wyndham. Furthermore, Wyndham/TrendWest is so OVERSOLD that you will be lucky to ever get into any of the resorts especially in May, June, July or August of each year... Oh, the salesperson forgot to tell you that....and I am willing to bet there were many other things they did not tell you.
Timesharejunkie
Sandiego,#8UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, July 14, 2008
First option is to send a fax into the office saying you want to cancel. If its passed the time you just include you were sold on the idea of investment and misrepresented cause the agent that sold you said that you get free airfare and and all kinds of stuff you never got(this is about being sold a program that doesn't exist not your financial or medical situation). They will cancel you at anytime to avoid lawsuit with no problems and could return all monies you've payed in. The timeshare industry is a great product represented by losers and scammers. I love my ownership with worldmark. Ive been to more places than people twice my age. I don't make much money and could not afford to spend 4-5000k for a vacation therefore my last trip to Hawaii staying at the embassy vacation resort never would have happened if it weren't for my worldmark credits cause it cost 4500 dollars for the week just to stay there. I payed with my maint fee and exchange fee $600 and I still have a week left to go. I love my ownership!!! I worked for these resorts for a couple years and a lot of these reps feel like they have to lie to sell someone a timeshare. They get payed a couple hundred bucks a deal so they tend to go over and beyond to get the sale. Don't let these sales peoples thirst for a couple hundred bucks steer you away from the benifits of timeshare. You should own a timeshare if you want to travel but i don't suggest a re-sale. Ive had a lot of people tell me mixed things. some are really good and some are really bad. The really good is the people bought for a fraction of the price and they're happy. The really bad is from people that bought and then found out that the previous owners haven't paid maint fees for the last four years so they have to pay those before they could use it or even worse some companies don't want to compete with a second market selling at half the price so they flag the timeshare as being a resale" a used car status" so when you go through the system you get second pick instead of first pick for your resorts. Makes sense cause then why would you spend $20k brand new for a timeshare when you could get one at a resale for $5k Just remember you get what you pay for! I hope this helps and remember if you want to get out of your current you just send them a letter demanding your free airline tickets you never got and that you were sold on the idea that you were vip and you could make a fortune renting your timeshare out 19 months out cause you were vip and you have come to find out none of this is true. You want this to be corrected asap or you will follow will legal action. They will refund your money even if you've owned for a few years.
Joe
M,#9Consumer Comment
Fri, July 11, 2008
You mentioned that you can't seem to book any units with your timeshares. Then why do you keep buying more points? Twice more? In addition, you complain that the resorts are dirty and smelly, yet you bought points 3 times? Why would you buy at resorts that are smelly and dirty? Why don't you just say "NO". I have been on many timeshare presentations and just say "NO". The going resale rate for Wyndham points is about 5% of retail. So your 89,000 of retail points is worth about $4,500, but of couse since you have $39,000 of debt on it, you will have no luck selling it. Please don't try to sell to a service that wants an upfront fee, they are scams. You might have some luck asking Wyndham to take back the units and forgive the remaining debt. Personally.... I bought my points resale on ebay and paid a fraction of retail. I have stayed at two of the resorts that you own at (Palms Air and Ocean Walk) and found them to be very nice and not dirty or smelly at all. Ocean Walk in Daytona is especially nice and my family looks forward to going back there. We are staying in Kings Gate at the end of August and just booked this in June through Wyndham. Joe
Misty
Sandy,#10Consumer Comment
Tue, July 08, 2008
I have went threw the same thing i just wrote a report about this same thing. i will let you know i have never paid them one penny except the most important one the down payment that i took away from my kids vacation i was planing for them because of all their lies, but it has never went on my credit yet and it has been over a year and it could be because i never paid them a penny. but good luck with them it is nice to know i am not the only one out here fighting for what is right and fighting for people to know what they are getting into by even going to thier stupid presintaions GOOD LUCK!!!! MISTY
Michael
Woodbridge,#11Consumer Comment
Mon, July 07, 2008
How far out are you trying to book your reservation? I find it awful hard to believe you haven't been able to stay at your home resorts or anywhere in Wyndham's network. I have booked Hawaii ten months out, the earliest possible, and got it. You can cancel 30 days out and get your points back, so it doesn't hurt to try and plan something and cancel later if you have to. The 3 and 4 bedroom presidentals are hard to come by though, if that is what you are shooting for. The interest thing - I haven't heard that before. That has never been an issue for me. The reservation system online is 100 times better than it used to be. Mike