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  • Report:  #222222

Complaint Review: Hewlett Packard - Palo Alto California

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- San Diego, California,
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Hewlett Packard
3000 Hanover Street Palo Alto, 94304 California, U.S.A.
Phone:
650-857-1501
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I have owned seven or eight computers and in January of this year when my last computer died, I bought an HP Pavillion a1221n Media Edition desktop machine. Even though I have owned about a dozen other HP machines such as scanners and printers, this was my first HP computer.

From day one I had problems with it and rather than go through the trouble of trying to get warrantee service, I had a computer tech look at it and fix some of the problems. It cost me $150 for this service but I felt it was worth it to not have to deal with returning the machine. It still does not perform the way it is suppose to, like go into sleep mode and other minor problems. But I can live with those things.

In November I finally had a minor issue I wanted to speak to the HP tech service about. I called the 800 number and got someone in India that I could barely understand. They looked up my records and told me my computer was out of warrantee. I told them I had a one year warrantee and that I had just bought the machine 10 months ago. They said their records show that it was registered in November of last year and was now 17 days out of warrantee. He said I would have to purchase an extended warrantee. I told him I had a receipt that showed the purchase date was January of this year. He said I would have to find the receipt and call back with the exact date of purchase.

I hung up and dug out my old receipts and sure enough the computer was bought in January. I called back and got another person in India that couldn't speak much better English. I explained about the first call and they looked up my records again and said that they were sorry but the warrantee begins when the product is manufactured and not when it is sold. WHAT??? I've never heard of this kind of policy. So I said, "What if the dealer had the machine in his warehouse for six months before I bought it... would that mean I would only get a six month warrantee instead of a year?" He said that was correct. Now, I've bought new cars and I know the warrantee begins when you drive it off the lot. Other warrantees work the same way. What kind of a rip off is this? He said I would have to purchase an extended warrantee before he could help me further. I hung up and stewed for a few minutes.

I then went to HP's website and found another 800 number to call. I got a tech in... you guessed it... India. I asked them if there was a way to contact anyone in the US and they said no, but I could go to their website at hp.com for support. Been there, done that. I explained what the two previous calls were about and I said I thought there was a mistake about the warrantee beginning at the time of manufacture rather than the time of purchase. Again I was told that that was their policy. They said I could fax the receipt to them and they would make a note about my complaint in my file and see if there was anything they could do about it. At that point, I know I was just wasting my time. Lesson learned. Never ever, ever, will I buy another HP product.

The kicker was, the next day I got an email wanting me to fill out a customer satisfaction form indicating how well my call was handled. I did, and I'm sure I'll never hear another word from them. I believe the purpose of the form is to collect compliments rather than complaints so they can boast of great customer service. Their claim to fame seems to be they are rated for excellece in customer satisfaction by JD Powers & Assoc. I hope JD Powers never has a problem with their HP products. At the end of the survey, for my trouble, they offered me a "discount coupon" for products purchased from the HP website. I declined.

Henry

San Diego, California
U.S.A.


8 Updates & Rebuttals

William

Boca Raton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
HP India is an insult!

#2Consumer Comment

Fri, February 02, 2007

I have an extended warranty that I bought for my new computer. Yesterday I spend 6 hours on the phone with a complete moron in India. The problem still isn't fixed. So I call today, each time it takes 30 minutes for them to get your name, the product number, the serial number, your phone and your email address confirmed. Then you get switched to another person who asks all the same information again. One would think that once you registered the product, their files would have all this up on their screen. So after 1 1/2 hours, the computer tech is ready to help me. There are a couple dll files that need to be reinstalled - so he has me do a dos scannow command, that is supposed to fix any windows files and drivers. After an hour and half while the scan runs, it finally ends up with "Insert your XP Professional Disk 2"... In that the computer comes pre-loaded with XP I don't have a disc. I have to shut the computer down to clear this thing. Then the computer won't start up. Fortunately, I know how to restore the settings. Now I have invested over 9 hours of time with these people, and I still have the same problems. Based on what I charge per hour, I could have bought a color laser of the highest caliber. Additionally, I have an HP desktop I bought about 18 months ago. I called 4 months before the warranty expired to purchase the 3 year warranty on it which at the time cost about $ 180.00. I was told call back when the warranty expires, as the extended warranty doesn't start till then. So I do this, then I get told I can't buy a 3 year warranty because the warranty expired! They will only sell me one year for $ 120.00 So I call again, and get connected with a consumer advocacy department for HP. I get told the same thing. Some Advocacy! HP's outsourcing which certainly affects how many US jobs, are lost, so that they can hire these incompetents, cheap, is outrageous. HP does have US tech support people, but getting through to them, is a problem unless you KNOW someone higher up in HP, which I do. I hate to call my friend there and bug him constantly, but I am not sure what other alternative I have. I do know when I have gotten his assistance, I get a smart tech rep that follows up, speaks english, is NOT in India, and get you taken care of. Wouldn't it be great if everyone were able to file suit for all the expense for our time with this deplorable customer service? Maybe one of the Ripoff Report family who is an attorney could put that together. (Hint!) Bill L -Boca Raton FL


Henry

San Diego,
California,
U.S.A.
Finally, a half-hearted response from HP

#3Consumer Comment

Thu, December 07, 2006

On 12/5, two weeks from the date I had the encounter with HP tech support, I received a call from "Eddie" who spoke broken English and sounded like he was from India like the three previous tech people I spoke with initially. Eddie said my complaint was just assigned to him and he was calling to see how he could help. I reminded him that it had been two weeks since I had the problem and he apologized saying he had just gotten the complaint. He went on to ask how he could help and I told him I had resolved the issue with the computer problem on my own, with no help from the HP tech people. I told him that I was very disappointed with HP for trying to sell me an extended warrantee when it had not yet been a year since I purchased the computer. He said the records show it was purchased in 11/05 rather than 1/06. I told him I had registered online when I bought it and asked why their records didn't show the correct date. He apologized and said he didn't know, but said if I fax my purchase receipt to him he would see that my records got updated. He acknowledged that the warrantee should be from the purchase date. When asked why all three techs told me that the warrantee began when the computer was shipped from the factory to the store and the only way they could help was for me to purchase an extended warrantee, he apologized again as if he didn't know it had happened. I told him he must have a copy of the case in front of him and he said he did. So everything that was said initially should have been available to him. He again asked how he could help and asked if I would fax the receipt to him so he could update my file. I told him I wasn't going to bother... my warrantee would be up in another month anyway, and I learned my lesson about HP. I asked him if he was also in India and he said he was in California. I asked him why the tech people in India couldn't give me a number to call in the US and he said they had no tech people in the US. He left me an 800 to call if I needed to get back to him and again apologized but offered no other solution to the "misunderstanding". It seems Eddie is just a cog in the wheel of HP's damage control system... apologize, seem concerned, but really offer nothing that you weren't entitled to in the first place.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Henry, you are correct about the extended warranties

#4Consumer Suggestion

Thu, November 30, 2006

Henry, That is exactly what was going on. And, yes, the reps do get a hefty commission on selling those warranties. I have even read the actual warranty of one of my HP computers and it clearly stated from date of PURCHASE. There is something extremely fishy here, or they have just changed their warranty policy. Either way, it is fraud to start a warranty before the consumer gets the item. I see a major lawsuit here. Good luck.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Henry, you are correct about the extended warranties

#5Consumer Suggestion

Thu, November 30, 2006

Henry, That is exactly what was going on. And, yes, the reps do get a hefty commission on selling those warranties. I have even read the actual warranty of one of my HP computers and it clearly stated from date of PURCHASE. There is something extremely fishy here, or they have just changed their warranty policy. Either way, it is fraud to start a warranty before the consumer gets the item. I see a major lawsuit here. Good luck.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Henry, you are correct about the extended warranties

#6Consumer Suggestion

Thu, November 30, 2006

Henry, That is exactly what was going on. And, yes, the reps do get a hefty commission on selling those warranties. I have even read the actual warranty of one of my HP computers and it clearly stated from date of PURCHASE. There is something extremely fishy here, or they have just changed their warranty policy. Either way, it is fraud to start a warranty before the consumer gets the item. I see a major lawsuit here. Good luck.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Henry, you are correct about the extended warranties

#7Consumer Suggestion

Thu, November 30, 2006

Henry, That is exactly what was going on. And, yes, the reps do get a hefty commission on selling those warranties. I have even read the actual warranty of one of my HP computers and it clearly stated from date of PURCHASE. There is something extremely fishy here, or they have just changed their warranty policy. Either way, it is fraud to start a warranty before the consumer gets the item. I see a major lawsuit here. Good luck.


Henry

San Diego,
California,
U.S.A.
Steve, if I got bad information, it was from three of HP's tech people! Then they told me there was no one else I could contact.

#8Author of original report

Tue, November 28, 2006

I find it odd that all three of the techs that I spoke with told me the same thing... "The warrantee starts when the product is shipped to the dealer". I could understand if one person told me that and they were mistaken, but all three with the same story?? It should all be documented in their log... case #7335025135. They all referred to the log when I called each time. I would love to be able to get a copy of that log, but I doubt I could. BTW, I didn't send in the warrantee card but I did register online. If I did get bad information, it was from the HP people who are supposed to know. I was told there was no one else I could complain to. I tried to get a number in the US but they said they had no contact information for anyone in the US. I went to HP.com and called the numbers I found on the site and all I got were techs in India. Each tech kept insisting that my warrantee had expired and they couldn't help me any further unless I bought an extended warrantee. How many people just cave in and buy the warrantee just to get their problem solved? How many people can't remember when they bought their computer and just take the word of the tech person and spring for the extended warrantee? It sure sounds like a racket and I wouldn't be surprised if the tech people get a percentage for every extended warrantee they sell. And based on other rip-off reports about HP, it seems calling the main headquarters gets you nowhere.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Henry, you got bad information regarding the warranty period!

#9Consumer Suggestion

Tue, November 28, 2006

Henry, ALL warranties begin when the consumer takes possession of the merchandise. When it was manufactured is irrelevant. Date of purchase = Start of warranty. I have owned several HP computers and my warranty always started on date of purchase. However, to have this documented in the HP system, you MUST register your purchase either by filling out the warranty registration card or doing it online. You might want to send your complaint to JD Powers and Assoc.

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