Mark
Reno,#2UPDATE Employee
Thu, September 26, 2013
I have been an employee of the company for almost 3 years now and have loved my experience with the company. I make more than ALL of my peers (Parents too) and yes we do work hard. I have never met a successfull person that claimed it was easy to get where they were. If it were an easy business everyone would do it and be millionaires, Personally i have no other thoughts of going to work for another company (even with a college degree). I have been on 3 paid vacations with the company and next month am going on another one. This business is for people that want to make something of themselves in life, and are willing to work for it. As far as these "high pressure sales tactics" go i have never employed any nor have i been instructed to. I have seen every check written out to every employee who did the work to get it. They pay $2000 a month for showing the equipment 12 times a week, with 0 sales. To those who didnt get paid, they worked 1 day, which every person ive ever seen hired here they had made it blatantly obvious that the contract is for 1 week of work if you dont sell they will pay you for your work, which if u dont work they arent going to pay you. Ive never made under 3,000 in a month since ive started with the exception of my first month (which i was paid $2,000 for working). It seems to me alot of people like to ride on their high horses and point fingers at a company who, in all my experience has been up front and honest with me, about something they did not follow through on.
For the few people who had a bad experience with a kirby rep, i dont defend the reps actions, sales of that caliber is never called for, in 3 years of meetings every day im still waiting on the "how to high pressure a customer into buying" lesson. The people who sell like that never last with the company, nor would i imagine anyone would want to buy from a sleazeball like that. Another point i find interesting is that alot of people say that we "scam" our employees, which ive never seen anyone who earned their paycheck not get paid. What we fail to ignore is that most other companies do off-shore labor and take the scams to different countries where it is not readily available to be talked about or even the conditions in which this happens, and of course where social media is not. tell me what is more of a scam $2000 a month for working hard of your own free will, or being forced to work in a factory at 6 years of age for 5 cents a day to ship your products to america to sell them in our economy so your family can eat? Start to finish with the Kirby we employ americans and dont participate in child enslavement. I'd really like to see more people held accountable for their actions in this respect as opposed to attacking those who offer, albiet a different kind of work, very valid and profitable business for those who are willing to learn and work hard for it. Go picket Johnson&Johnson for their "sales tactics" of child enslavement, and leave honest hard working folks alone to make their living and share the opportunity they have found with other people.
To those who tried and didnt make it in the business God bless you for trying sales is not for everybody. But worst case u spent a very short period of your life to find out that maybe sales isnt for you, maybe close that chapter in your life. Although i do know tons of people to try sales and have found abundant succuess, whats tragic to me is that some people are only capable of seeing the negative and assume their faults, work-habits and shortcomings will be everyone elses. To those people i'd like to politely ask you to refrain from stopping someone from achieving their dreams based on your fears.
Dpsdan
Reno,#3UPDATE Employee
Thu, May 30, 2013
I have been an employee of J & L distributing since 2009 (4 years). they specifically start you out on a $2000 BASE pay! If you do so many cleanings (even without selling) you will get paid $2000. Since the year 2009 I have not made under $3000 in a month! I myself have been on 2 all expense paid vacation on a carnival cruise to Ensenada, Mexico. I have won a few trips (all expense paid) to Las Vegas, NV. we stayed at the Flamingo the first time and The Hard Rock hotel in suites. I just got back from a vacation in Oahu, Hawaii. That topped anything I have ever done before. I am also going to Cancun Mexico in July 2013! (Can't wait). As far as money goes, my best month in business was over $15000 in August 2012. I made $90k last year and I'm only 23 years old! Like I said the opportunity is endless!
its a great opportunity! Although it is not for everybody! You will not know if it's for you if you only try it out for a week or 2. Give it 30 days and see what happens! Just because it doesn't work out for some people, does not mean that's how it is for everyone. If you do well, you get promoted to management. Than you can even open up your own distribitership. Many people have made millions.
Thats all I have to say! Thanks for reading. P.s. if I spelt anything wrong, remember I SELL VACUUMS for a living! Ha
Iknewit
United States of America#4Consumer Comment
Fri, February 01, 2013
What an immature way to respond. You took advantage of someone and you respond with no remorse. Its disgusting. I'll be canceling my interview. Thank God for the internet. I'd be wasting my time talking to a terrible person
ronald
carson city,#5Consumer Comment
Sat, February 20, 2010
i would like to thank the people on here for the info on the j@l company. i just had a person came by to try and have some one come into my home do one area for free
did not even say it was to try and sell a carpet cleaner or anything. i just did a search online here and found this group. so it will save me the hassle of even calling that company.
glad for the internet saved me.
thanks for this ripoff report site saved me from people trying to sell me something i have no use for
Thomasaustin
Sparks,#6UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, July 23, 2009
While reading some of the comments written here on J & L Distributors, I cant help but come away with the same story line over and over, Deception, Misrepresentation and disappointed would-be employees left with little but resentment. Myself included, everything from the start of this fiasco left me with a maddening feeling. I was lied to from the start. I asked twice specifically during my interview "will this involve selling of anything?". "No", i was repeatedly told "this is customer service position involving the setting up of displays".Something told me i was being lied to, but rather than being pessimistic or negative I gladly accepted their $2000.00 a month base salary with many chances for advancement. While it may be true there are chances for advancement, why not tell the would be employee that yes you have to sell vacuums and if you dont give us a MINIMUM of four "qualifying" family or friends your booted rather quickly for not being a "Team Player". Once again I would not have wasted the four hours of my time had i known it was a "Amway" kind of Kirby-Door-to-Door sales position. I left after the first day of training, as i am upset with being deceived the first 10 minutes of meeting with the interviewer. I feel bad for the other 29 individuals in the training class that will surely have to learn after maybe 20 hours of unpaid time or maybe more that this is not what they thought. This is selling This is commission This is not customer service and furthermore you have to drag your friends or family members in on something that maybe they'd rather not be involved with. Kirby is looking for a minimum 120 contacts out of the 30 potential employees. On another side note I have personally had the demonstration done at my residence on several occasions. The first time was not so pushy, following times were slightly different with promises and prices dropping from a starting price down to a whole different price making me wonder at which point do most people cry uncle at. Where is the "sucker" level and at which point is the "that was a fair price" level? So I guess the reason I posted this is because I feel it should be known that this, while maybe not a scam, is certainly a misrepresentation of a job. My gripe here among other things mostly is that I had expectations of something different than the reality and that in and of itself is an unsavory business practice on any level. Nuff Said.....
Thomasaustin
Sparks,#7UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, July 23, 2009
While reading some of the comments written here on J & L Distributors, I cant help but come away with the same story line over and over, Deception, Misrepresentation and disappointed would-be employees left with little but resentment. Myself included, everything from the start of this fiasco left me with a maddening feeling. I was lied to from the start. I asked twice specifically during my interview "will this involve selling of anything?". "No", i was repeatedly told "this is customer service position involving the setting up of displays".Something told me i was being lied to, but rather than being pessimistic or negative I gladly accepted their $2000.00 a month base salary with many chances for advancement. While it may be true there are chances for advancement, why not tell the would be employee that yes you have to sell vacuums and if you dont give us a MINIMUM of four "qualifying" family or friends your booted rather quickly for not being a "Team Player". Once again I would not have wasted the four hours of my time had i known it was a "Amway" kind of Kirby-Door-to-Door sales position. I left after the first day of training, as i am upset with being deceived the first 10 minutes of meeting with the interviewer. I feel bad for the other 29 individuals in the training class that will surely have to learn after maybe 20 hours of unpaid time or maybe more that this is not what they thought. This is selling This is commission This is not customer service and furthermore you have to drag your friends or family members in on something that maybe they'd rather not be involved with. Kirby is looking for a minimum 120 contacts out of the 30 potential employees. On another side note I have personally had the demonstration done at my residence on several occasions. The first time was not so pushy, following times were slightly different with promises and prices dropping from a starting price down to a whole different price making me wonder at which point do most people cry uncle at. Where is the "sucker" level and at which point is the "that was a fair price" level? So I guess the reason I posted this is because I feel it should be known that this, while maybe not a scam, is certainly a misrepresentation of a job. My gripe here among other things mostly is that I had expectations of something different than the reality and that in and of itself is an unsavory business practice on any level. Nuff Said.....
Thomasaustin
Sparks,#8UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, July 23, 2009
While reading some of the comments written here on J & L Distributors, I cant help but come away with the same story line over and over, Deception, Misrepresentation and disappointed would-be employees left with little but resentment. Myself included, everything from the start of this fiasco left me with a maddening feeling. I was lied to from the start. I asked twice specifically during my interview "will this involve selling of anything?". "No", i was repeatedly told "this is customer service position involving the setting up of displays".Something told me i was being lied to, but rather than being pessimistic or negative I gladly accepted their $2000.00 a month base salary with many chances for advancement. While it may be true there are chances for advancement, why not tell the would be employee that yes you have to sell vacuums and if you dont give us a MINIMUM of four "qualifying" family or friends your booted rather quickly for not being a "Team Player". Once again I would not have wasted the four hours of my time had i known it was a "Amway" kind of Kirby-Door-to-Door sales position. I left after the first day of training, as i am upset with being deceived the first 10 minutes of meeting with the interviewer. I feel bad for the other 29 individuals in the training class that will surely have to learn after maybe 20 hours of unpaid time or maybe more that this is not what they thought. This is selling This is commission This is not customer service and furthermore you have to drag your friends or family members in on something that maybe they'd rather not be involved with. Kirby is looking for a minimum 120 contacts out of the 30 potential employees. On another side note I have personally had the demonstration done at my residence on several occasions. The first time was not so pushy, following times were slightly different with promises and prices dropping from a starting price down to a whole different price making me wonder at which point do most people cry uncle at. Where is the "sucker" level and at which point is the "that was a fair price" level? So I guess the reason I posted this is because I feel it should be known that this, while maybe not a scam, is certainly a misrepresentation of a job. My gripe here among other things mostly is that I had expectations of something different than the reality and that in and of itself is an unsavory business practice on any level. Nuff Said.....
Melissa
Reno,#9UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, December 23, 2008
Chantel, I enjoyed your report and I would like to buy into the negativity you spread here. However it seems to me that you gave four hours of your life to go to an orentation where they guarentee you $2000 a month for working full time and you are now angry because you worked for 4 hours and didn't get paid for the orentation. You quit your job to attend a 4 hour orentation and then quit that job just to write a report online instead of working and makeing the $2000 that was available there? Wow thats very intresting.