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  • Report:  #422108

Complaint Review: Lionheart Group - Frisco Texas

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- Dallas, Texas,
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Lionheart Group
5850 Town & Country Blvd., Suite 1001 Frisco, 75034 Texas, U.S.A.
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I wish I had done more discovery work prior to going out on this appointment. After doing more searching I found that the previous reports showing this company to being a scam turned out to be very true.

Nothing about this company is on the up and up not even the pictures of their offices being that the one I visited in Frisco was probably 700 sq. ft. and not the high rises that are a couple of Dallas high rises.

As soon as I arrived I was shuffled into a room where I was told they weren't trying to sell me anything only to be told that if I decided to move forward to their next step it would cost me a mere $124.00 (so they were correct I guess since I wasn't being sold anything only be taken for $124.00).

Perhaps had they represented themselves in a proper manner and had a better speaker I would have been somewhat interested as I have used the prepaid legal services before.

As I listened to the salesman and his trumped up statistics I became more frustrated that I had allowed myself to be lured into this scam. As an example the "average" dollar amount of someone having their credit cards stolen is 92K (I don't think the "average" person has a credit limit that high), another astounding stat was if your identity is stolen you will spend 600 hours on company time repairing the damage (really are you going to be able to spend almost 3.5 months on nothing but phone calls to get things straightened out without being fired from your job?)

I hope this reaches people who have far better things to do than waste an hour on a cattle call from a company that is only working the numbers to try and sign you up for a MLM opportunity or better known as a scam.

Best of luck to all of you that are obviously looking for a true opportunity.

Sincerely,

MISLEAD

Bobby

Dallas, Texas

U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

Bob Benton

Niles,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Misinformation once again posted on Ripoff Report

#2UPDATE Employee

Mon, March 02, 2009

To Bobby: You state that nothing about the Lionheart is on the up-and-up. We market the services of two NYSE companies that are each 37 years old. I would think if we are a scam we would have been shut down by now. PrePaid Legal Inc created the prepaid legal industry and we are still number one after all of these years. USA Today wrote that we are one of the top 3 founder led companies over the past 15 years behind only the Apollo Group and Amazon.com. Pretty lofty company don't you think? When you were in the group interview and told that you needed $124 to begin, this was to start up your own business. We don't have any employees in the field just independent professional sales representatives. Included in the fee stated is the fact that Texas requires a license to sell the PrePaid Legal portion of our employee benefit product. We require that you pay for Kroll to perfom a criminal background check. Since we are not "hiring" you, this is part of your start-up expense and deductible against any earnings in that year. Yes we also require that you own and use our product. How else would you plan on intelligently market it to business owners. By the way, they almost always ask if you have the product. If you can't truthfully answer yes, you've lost any chance of making a sale. You are incorrectly associating the $93,000 average dollar amount involved with strictly credit cards. That is not what was presented. What was presented is that in addition to credit cards, the thief is also out there purchasing car(s), motorcycle(s), jewelry and more. If you listened to the whole presentation about our Identity Theft product, you'd have understood that we do the 600 hours of work for our member so that they don't have to take that time from work. We're all about restoration and not resolution touted by our competitors (do some research to understand the difference). Listen, the opportunity we present is not for everybody. We understand that. We do not engage in a cattle call as you suggest. We use a group interview in the begging because we want to see how individuals react in a group setting. This is because a lot of what we do is talk in front of groups. Our interview is a three step process. The third step is an one-on-one interview. As to being a MLM, this is just absolutely untrue. We are a B2B marketing agency. While a good deal of PrePaid Legal is involved in MLM, we at The Lionheart GRoup are not. Bob Benton Independent Associate Chicago Management Team


Bob Benton

Niles,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Misinformation once again posted on Ripoff Report

#3UPDATE Employee

Mon, March 02, 2009

To Bobby: You state that nothing about the Lionheart is on the up-and-up. We market the services of two NYSE companies that are each 37 years old. I would think if we are a scam we would have been shut down by now. PrePaid Legal Inc created the prepaid legal industry and we are still number one after all of these years. USA Today wrote that we are one of the top 3 founder led companies over the past 15 years behind only the Apollo Group and Amazon.com. Pretty lofty company don't you think? When you were in the group interview and told that you needed $124 to begin, this was to start up your own business. We don't have any employees in the field just independent professional sales representatives. Included in the fee stated is the fact that Texas requires a license to sell the PrePaid Legal portion of our employee benefit product. We require that you pay for Kroll to perfom a criminal background check. Since we are not "hiring" you, this is part of your start-up expense and deductible against any earnings in that year. Yes we also require that you own and use our product. How else would you plan on intelligently market it to business owners. By the way, they almost always ask if you have the product. If you can't truthfully answer yes, you've lost any chance of making a sale. You are incorrectly associating the $93,000 average dollar amount involved with strictly credit cards. That is not what was presented. What was presented is that in addition to credit cards, the thief is also out there purchasing car(s), motorcycle(s), jewelry and more. If you listened to the whole presentation about our Identity Theft product, you'd have understood that we do the 600 hours of work for our member so that they don't have to take that time from work. We're all about restoration and not resolution touted by our competitors (do some research to understand the difference). Listen, the opportunity we present is not for everybody. We understand that. We do not engage in a cattle call as you suggest. We use a group interview in the begging because we want to see how individuals react in a group setting. This is because a lot of what we do is talk in front of groups. Our interview is a three step process. The third step is an one-on-one interview. As to being a MLM, this is just absolutely untrue. We are a B2B marketing agency. While a good deal of PrePaid Legal is involved in MLM, we at The Lionheart GRoup are not. Bob Benton Independent Associate Chicago Management Team


Bob Benton

Niles,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Misinformation once again posted on Ripoff Report

#4UPDATE Employee

Mon, March 02, 2009

To Bobby: You state that nothing about the Lionheart is on the up-and-up. We market the services of two NYSE companies that are each 37 years old. I would think if we are a scam we would have been shut down by now. PrePaid Legal Inc created the prepaid legal industry and we are still number one after all of these years. USA Today wrote that we are one of the top 3 founder led companies over the past 15 years behind only the Apollo Group and Amazon.com. Pretty lofty company don't you think? When you were in the group interview and told that you needed $124 to begin, this was to start up your own business. We don't have any employees in the field just independent professional sales representatives. Included in the fee stated is the fact that Texas requires a license to sell the PrePaid Legal portion of our employee benefit product. We require that you pay for Kroll to perfom a criminal background check. Since we are not "hiring" you, this is part of your start-up expense and deductible against any earnings in that year. Yes we also require that you own and use our product. How else would you plan on intelligently market it to business owners. By the way, they almost always ask if you have the product. If you can't truthfully answer yes, you've lost any chance of making a sale. You are incorrectly associating the $93,000 average dollar amount involved with strictly credit cards. That is not what was presented. What was presented is that in addition to credit cards, the thief is also out there purchasing car(s), motorcycle(s), jewelry and more. If you listened to the whole presentation about our Identity Theft product, you'd have understood that we do the 600 hours of work for our member so that they don't have to take that time from work. We're all about restoration and not resolution touted by our competitors (do some research to understand the difference). Listen, the opportunity we present is not for everybody. We understand that. We do not engage in a cattle call as you suggest. We use a group interview in the begging because we want to see how individuals react in a group setting. This is because a lot of what we do is talk in front of groups. Our interview is a three step process. The third step is an one-on-one interview. As to being a MLM, this is just absolutely untrue. We are a B2B marketing agency. While a good deal of PrePaid Legal is involved in MLM, we at The Lionheart GRoup are not. Bob Benton Independent Associate Chicago Management Team


Bob Benton

Niles,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
Misinformation once again posted on Ripoff Report

#5UPDATE Employee

Mon, March 02, 2009

To Bobby: You state that nothing about the Lionheart is on the up-and-up. We market the services of two NYSE companies that are each 37 years old. I would think if we are a scam we would have been shut down by now. PrePaid Legal Inc created the prepaid legal industry and we are still number one after all of these years. USA Today wrote that we are one of the top 3 founder led companies over the past 15 years behind only the Apollo Group and Amazon.com. Pretty lofty company don't you think? When you were in the group interview and told that you needed $124 to begin, this was to start up your own business. We don't have any employees in the field just independent professional sales representatives. Included in the fee stated is the fact that Texas requires a license to sell the PrePaid Legal portion of our employee benefit product. We require that you pay for Kroll to perfom a criminal background check. Since we are not "hiring" you, this is part of your start-up expense and deductible against any earnings in that year. Yes we also require that you own and use our product. How else would you plan on intelligently market it to business owners. By the way, they almost always ask if you have the product. If you can't truthfully answer yes, you've lost any chance of making a sale. You are incorrectly associating the $93,000 average dollar amount involved with strictly credit cards. That is not what was presented. What was presented is that in addition to credit cards, the thief is also out there purchasing car(s), motorcycle(s), jewelry and more. If you listened to the whole presentation about our Identity Theft product, you'd have understood that we do the 600 hours of work for our member so that they don't have to take that time from work. We're all about restoration and not resolution touted by our competitors (do some research to understand the difference). Listen, the opportunity we present is not for everybody. We understand that. We do not engage in a cattle call as you suggest. We use a group interview in the begging because we want to see how individuals react in a group setting. This is because a lot of what we do is talk in front of groups. Our interview is a three step process. The third step is an one-on-one interview. As to being a MLM, this is just absolutely untrue. We are a B2B marketing agency. While a good deal of PrePaid Legal is involved in MLM, we at The Lionheart GRoup are not. Bob Benton Independent Associate Chicago Management Team


Devjuan

Buda,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Hopeful and anxious JOB seeker saved from a headache!

#6Consumer Comment

Wed, February 11, 2009

I was "this close" to tacking on an "interview" with this company to the tail end of my family three day weekend getaway. I am so glad I took the time to research this outfit further. Thank You to Ripoff Report and all of the people that went before me so that I wouldn't have to! Whewwweee! That was close!

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