Complaint Review: Lisa Grey - Wister Oklahoma

Ask Donna yourself is she is happy with the health of her dog, Aritha. She has her papers and a very healthy dog. Her friend has 2 dogs with papers and both are also very healthy. I have forwarded my vet papers from the day before the flight to the proper authorities that I have contacted regarding her. Arielle shouldn't have cashed the check if she didn't like the amount. I took the funds out of the account after she threw such a big fit in order to force her to either accept it as a full refund (as listed in the check memo) or head to court. It is her that called the transaction off, not me. I invite anyone to call my references or vet. best regards to everyone.

SARCOPTIC MITES and DEMODEX MITES are often referred to as MANGE. The word mangy describes a ragged and uneven hair coat and damaged skin that results from mites affecting the skin and hair follicles. Mange is responsible for many annoying and persistent problems in veterinary dermatology. The mite known as SCABIES, SARCOPTIC MITES or SARCOPTIC MANGE are highly communicable little bugs that actually dig tiny tunnels into the skin where they cause intense itching, inflammation and hair loss. Many, many cases of skin itching (called pruritus) in dogs and cats have been diagnosed by veterinarians as Allergic Dermatitis when in fact the pet had sarcoptic mites. (See the article called ITCH AND SCRATCH). The difficulty lies in the fact that Sarcoptic Mite infestation really does look like an allergic dermatitis because the skin is reacting to an irritant... just like an allergy! The intense itching results in self trauma, hair loss, and dry crusty skin lesions. In some cases the dog or cat can lose large areas of fur and literally be covered with crusts and scabs. Scabies mites can affect humans, as well. A swift diagnosis of sarcoptic mites is vital to the pet's health and the well being of the pet's owner. Generally, in healthy humans who are not immune suppressed, the Scabies Mites do not reproduce very readily and may simply go away without medical treatment. If you are in doubt about human cases of Scabies, consult your physician.

I tried to purchase a puppy from Lisa Grey in late August of this year. I sent her the $625 payment in full as soon as I received the purchase contract. She said it would be a few weeks till he was ready. I said that was fine. The time for the puppy to arrive had come, but no puppy. I contacted Lisa and was unable to get a hold of her. I did, however, get a hold of her daughter who told me that "tigger" was taken to the vet hospital because of very low blood sugar. Within a few days Lisa and I were in contact again. We agreed to wait a few days to see if Tigger would recover. We were concerned about him surviving the flight. After much debate, I finally decided to get a different puppy through Lisa. A little girl named "cocoa" THREE times Lisa told me the times that cocoa would be flying into the airport. Each time, I tried to call and confirm with her that the puppy had been shipped out ok. No contact so each of the three times, I drove out to the airport just in case. Weeks and weeks went by with Lisa leading me on and on like this. Finally I had enough. I told her I wanted my money back (By the way, at this point it was after the death of her father - she should have had ample time to legitimately complete this business transaction). I was on her for weeks about getting the refund sent out to me. FINALLY she sent it out - LESS A $200 DEPOSIT that I should not have had to pay. It was failure to complete the business transaction on her part- not mine. So the check for $425 was deposited into my bank account a little over a week ago... GUESS WHAT?! IT BOUNCED!!! Surprise, surprise... and now I have to pay even more money because this woman is just ridiculous- SHAME ON YOU LISA GREY! Don't attack these other women... their personal lives are beside the point. Business is business. If you cannot handle this... don't do business!!!! You'd do all of us a favor if you decided not to. However many satisfies customers you have are beside the point. FACT IS: you have AT LEAST 3 VERY VERY unhappy customers you ripped off. Who is to tell who you will or will not decide to give them the shaft? Take their money? Refuse to give them their puppy? Refuse to give them their papers? Whatever it may be..... Buyers beware!!! If anyone else has been ripped off by Lisa Grey, please file a report. I filed a report with the IFCC (Internet Fraud Complaint Center) and I urge others to do the same. They are a branch of the FBI who deals with fraudulent business on the internet. www.ifccfbi.gov CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

AS FAR AS LISA SAYING SLANDER. SLANDER IS LIES AND THIS IS ALL NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. WHAT WOULD I ACTUALLY GAIN FROM THIS BY LIEING.LISA HAS ALOT MORE TO LOOSE.ALSO LISA SAYS I DIDNT WAIT . HER DAD WAS ALREADY DECEASED AND I GAVE HER 2 WKS, AND SHE STILL NEVER RESPONDED. BEFORE I TOOK FURTHER ACTION,

TO ALL CONSUMERS.I AM A PASS BREEDER OF BULLMASTIFFS FOR 8 YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER ONCE HAD A DISSATISFIED BUYER. SO TWO IS TWO TOO MANY.IF I HAD RAN INTO A PROBLEM LIKE LISA DID BEING A BREEDER FIRST OF ALL I WOULD HAVE BEEN UPFRONT WITH MY CUSTOMER ABOUT THE PAPER WORK. THAT WAS HER FIRST MISTAKE.THEN IF I SOLD THE PUPPY WITH PAPERS AND THEY NEVER CAME THROUGH BECAUSE I RAN INTO TROUBLE WITH AKC. I WOULD HAVE GIVEN SOME OF THE PURCHASE MONEY BACK OR SENT THE PAPERS.THIS IS WHY I NEVER HAD A DISSATISFIED CUSTOMER. I PURCHASED MY DOG IN MARCH 7 MTHS AGO.SHE IS NOW 9 MTH OLD AND I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH LISA. I UNDERSTOOD THAT HER DAD WAS VERY SICK SO I WOULD GIVE HER MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO ME AND SHE NEVER WOULD.I WOULD SEE THAT BUISNESS WAS STILL UP AND RUNNING FOR HER BECAUSE NEW DOGS WOULD BE PLACED ON THE WEBSITE AND SOMEONE I KNEW RECIEVED HER PAPERS AFTER 4 MTHS BUT THE PARENTS NAMES ON THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT DID NOT MATCH THE NAMES ON THE PAPERS., WELL GUESS WHAT. MY DOG HAS THE SAME DAD BURT. SO I THINK THIS IS WHY SHE WONT SEND ME PAPERS .THE NAMES MOST LIKELY DONT MATCH EITHER.AS FAR AS LISA SAYING I DIDNT MOVE THE SLANDER THATS A DOWN RIGHT LIE . AT THE TIME OF LISA TELLING ME TO REMOVE THE SLANDER SHE WAS ONLY IN THE BBB AND ON THIS SITE. SHE DID NOT FOLLOW THROUGH AND SEND ME PAPERS SO I HAVE SINCE PUT HER IN OTHER AGENCYS.LISA CONTINUES TO LIE. BACK IN MAY WHEN I CONTACTED HER SHE WAS SICK .SO I WAITED A MNTH TO CONTACT HER AGAIN. THEN HER DAD WAS SICK SO I EVEN WAITED LONGER.SHE SAYS WE ARE HORRIBLE. I THINK I HAVE BEEN EXSTREMELY PATIENT WITH HER. SHE ALSO TALKS ABOUT BEING IMMATURE.LISA IS SUPPOSE TO BE A BREEDER WHITCH IS A BUSSINESS WOMAN. SHE SOUNDS VERY IMMATURE TO ME SAYING. IM NOT GETTING PAPERS BECAUSE IM HORRIBLE AND RACHEL HAS MARRITAL PROBLEMS, JUST WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RIPPING OFF THE COSUMER. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED SHE OWES ME AN APPOLIGY FOR ALL THE TIME SHE HAS MADE ME WAIT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT STORIES SHE HAS TOLD ME .AS FAR AS THE BOSTON TERRIORS AND BULLDOGS. SHE DOES HAVE WEBSITES AND THERE IS A PURCHASE PRICE FOR PUPPIES.I PUT AN UPDATE TO THIS SITE SAYING WE WERE WORKING IT OUT AND I CONTACTED THE BBB,SHE DIDNT FOLLOW THROUGH ONCE AGAIN SO I WAS FORCED TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION.IF LISA WOULD LIKE ME TO STOP SHE SHOULD SEND ME WHAT I PURCHASED. A PUPPY WITH PAPERS.I THINK THE SOUR GRAPES LYE WITH LISA HERSELF.I AM A MOTHER OF 4 AND A GRANDMA THIS LADY THINKS I AM OUT TO DESTROY HER .NO I AM OUT TO RECIEVE WHAT I HAVE OWED TO ME. SHE CANT JUST RIP OFF HONEST HARD WORKING PEOPLE.WELL CONSUMER YOU CAN USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT WHEATHER YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO PURCHASE OFF OF LISA GREY AND IF YOU DO LOTS OF LUCK AND GOD BLESS.

How can I be in it for the money??? I have vet papers that is dated on the day that he flew in!! Which was 06/10/2005. How am I in it for the money?? Also, you don't know about my living situation, how do you know what money I have and don't have??? You said that you didn't recieve pictures...I emailed you pictures and teh vet paper well over 3 times. I even called you from my vet clinic, so don't come on here saying things about me that are lies. Another thing, did you or did you not tell me that you would pay for his vet bill? I'm not asking for a full refund Lisa. You said that I could keep "Jack" (aka "Chigger"), and that you would replace him, which never happened. Well, I figured since I got to keep him it would be fair to pay for shipping, but having to pay for a puppy that shouldn't have been sold...come on...if I knew he had mange I wouldn't have purchased that pup period! No please tell me how I'm in it for the money??? Also you said that I'm hurting financially?? How would you know? You don't know me and obviouly if I was hurting, how could I afford to pay the vet?? As for your father, what does he have to do with any of this?? Our problem was a little over 4 months ago. What does he have to do with you selling me a puppy? Don't try to bring him in here so people can feel sorry for you. I'm sorry to hear about your father, but he totally has nothing to do with you selling me a puppy, and refunding me. I'm sticking behind my word, as I know the truth!! I wouldn't purchase from you again. If anyone is interested in seeing emails, pictures, or vet papers email me at [email protected] I'm tired of this, and I'm done, if Lisa Grey wants to sell her puppys to people who want to fall in a trap like I did, then go for it people. I'm just saying I had a bad experience, and I wouldn't want to deal w/ her and her lies! Now, who's in it for the money? God Bless!

I am not going to waste my time & energy bickering with these two immature ladies. Any site that would openly promote slander is just immature. My father has been terminally ill for 2 1/2 years. My mother & I had been caring for him for 4 months, with hospice coming once a week. That was his wish, for his two favorite girls to keep him at home and out of the Veterans Hospital. He has terminal lung & kidney cancer. It went to his bones & was extremely painful 24/7. He lost his battle about 4 wks ago. AFter 37 years of marriage to my mom, she is to say the least having a very rough time. Last week woudl have been their anniversary. The really sad thing about all of this mess is that these two ladies didn't even have the compassion to wait to post ugly things. Both knew we were in the final days for dad when all of this was going on. How selfish & immature! SHAME ON YOU!! What the consumers who check here don't know about me is that I have raised chi's for 17 years. It can be traced back for 3 generations of my family. So, you see, we are committed to the breed. As far as they say I have English Bulldogs & Boston Terriers, yes & no. I have had an english bully for 8 years, her name is Peaches. MY husband bought her for my birthday years ago because he know I liked their faces. She has been & will be a loved part of our family for the rest of her life. I also had 2 other bullies at one time, a dam & a sire. We raised a litter and showed 2 of the re-sulting puppies. They have since been placed (about 3 years ago) with one of my best friends. They are her only dogs and are very much loved. My mother has 3 bostons & I helped her sell her puppies. Since then, her bostons have been fixed. Now, back to my chi's. Anyone that has been to my house or talked to my vet, family, friends, and aquaintances would know that my dogs have the very best of everything. Each and every dog here is loved, well taken care of, and pretty rotten. I have soooo many completely happy customers that I am not going to let these two ladies with axes to grind & too much time on their hands hurt my feelings. There have been so many people e-mail me & let me know that they have checked my references & think it is wrong that that RAchel has behaved this way. Consumers & even other breeders have been very supportive through all of this. You can tell by the sound of their postings how childish they are. I believe mostly compulsive & hatefull. Rachel Nichols isn't interested in her dog, she is interested in the money. She didn't even want to spend the $40 to have the puppy scraped to see if it was DM. Before I sent him to her, I told her my vet had scraped him twice because he had some hair loss & he found absolutely nothing. I have his signed, notarized statement as to such. Rachel told me more than once that both she & her husband (even when she was buying the puppy) were not very well off financially. She had already picked her puppy & I even reduced the price to help her out. AFter she had received teh puppy, her friend, Jessica contacted me to buy a female. She wanted to breed chi's. I spoke with her, but after hearing her husband's indifferent attitude to her on the phone and feeling the tension in that household, I didn't send any pictures or anything. I had a feeling it wasn't a happy home & that thought was very much supported by RAchel's statements about Jessica's marital and financial woes. I thought it would be best to bow out of that mess. So, you see, it is unfair to act like I have not had alot of contact & kept up with the health of this puppy. Both Rachel & Jessica let me know that breeding chi's would take alot more money that they had first expected. Believe me, I know and time doesn't even figure into that equation. For a person raising puppies, time & lost sleep is only paid with puppy kisses. Rachel Nichols just had her vet treat it as such just to be safe. But after checking with my vet, he said the ivomec & amitrazis pretty hard on their little systems. Just to be on the safe side, her puppy's mom was spayed. It is noteworthy however to add that no other puppies in his litter (their were 5) have any problems at all. Rachel's puppy (of course she hasn't told anyone on this site!) was fully recovered very-very shortly. The recovery time & lack of scaling to me was an indication of what my vet had original diagnosed- hairloss due to change of coat with adolescence. I am sure he is a very fine coated boy with the same wonderful personality he left here with. She let me know that she just needed money and her puppy was very healthy & loved. Note: about Donna Frates - she has lied to me on the phone and here on the site in stating that she has taken down her slanderous remarks. I have noted them other places and have heard what she has said behind my back. I do have her papers in hand. Would you bargain with such a hateful, two faced person? I do have a good reputation & my husband says that after all the very happy people that we have placed puppies with are happy and these are the only two with sour grapes, (it is impossible to please everyone), I shouldn't stress. I have done everything I can, but I refuse to bargain or argue with people of this low personality. Anyone is invited to write or call me with regards to this & my dogs. I have been AKC inspected and passed with flying colors. I have nothing to hide & openly welcome any & all questions. Regards, Lisa Grey Lisa's Little Chihuahuas

I am very sorry to hear about your puppy and the others who have dealt with her. I just wanted to clarify something from the previous post. Demodectic mange is NOT contagious to humans. This is something the puppies get from the parents. Either way, this puppy should NOT have to deal with this. I just wanted to clarify the information so wrong information isn't put out there.

I am very sorry to hear about your puppy and the others who have dealt with her. I just wanted to clarify something from the previous post. Demodectic mange is NOT contagious to humans. This is something the puppies get from the parents. Either way, this puppy should NOT have to deal with this. I just wanted to clarify the information so wrong information isn't put out there.

I am very sorry to hear about your puppy and the others who have dealt with her. I just wanted to clarify something from the previous post. Demodectic mange is NOT contagious to humans. This is something the puppies get from the parents. Either way, this puppy should NOT have to deal with this. I just wanted to clarify the information so wrong information isn't put out there.

I am very sorry to hear about your puppy and the others who have dealt with her. I just wanted to clarify something from the previous post. Demodectic mange is NOT contagious to humans. This is something the puppies get from the parents. Either way, this puppy should NOT have to deal with this. I just wanted to clarify the information so wrong information isn't put out there.

I have done a lot of research since I purchased my puppies. One of them arrived with mange too. This is a very serious bug. Do you know they can live on humans? On your child? Yourself? They tunnel under the skin. The treatment is not immediate either. It takes a long time to get rid of this. My concern would be the living conditions of the adults and new puppies at this facility. Have you contacted animal control in her town to have the facility inspected? Please think of the animals still living in that environment.

YOU WERE RIGHT.LISA GREY IS NOTHING BUT A BIG LIAR.SHE RIPPED ME OFF.MY DOG IS 9 MTHS OLD AND STILL NO REGISTRATION.THE LIES JUST DONT STOP.FIRST THE DOG IS AKC AND THEN ITS ACA. NOW THE REGISTRATION IS IN ANOTHER NAME. SHE HAS A DIFFERENT STORIE EVERY OTHER DAY.THE ONLY STORIE I HAVE NOT HEARD IS THE TRUTHFULL ONE.I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PLANET THESE PAPERS ARE COMING FROM FOR THE PAST 7 MTHS, BECAUSE THEY NEVER ARRIVED AND LISA HAS EMAILED THEM,PUT THEM IN REGULAR MAIL AND SHE HAS EVEN OVER NIGHT THEM.SO SHE SAYS.YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT [email protected] I CAN TALK WITH YOU ABOUT SOME STEPS I HAVE TAKEN TO WORN OTHER CONSUMERS LISA GREYS VICTOM DONNA

Update...still no replacement or refund. Have filed more reports else where. Very untrustworthy. She may sound nice and honest, but it's all a joke. DO NOT purchase anything from this lady! I have vet bills, pictures of the pup, and emails that she has written me for proof. Will continue to get her to stop ripping people off!