Report: #71369

Complaint Review: Frankly Speaking - Albany Georgia

4 Updates & Rebuttals

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- Cresco, Pennsylvania,

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Why?

Frankly Speaking

422 West Oglethorpe Blvd Albany, 301701 Georgia, U.S.A.

Phone:

887-4372800

Web:

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Categories:

Credit Card Fraud

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Frankly Speaking Inc. Owner Donald Lasker rip offed credit card # & charged my acct w/o authorization Albany Georgia

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: We are trying to help the kids

*Author of original report: Frankly Speaking ..The good news is There website has been suspended as of today

*Author of original report: Frankly Speaking Inc, RE: your rip off technique, the same lame, skirting legalities & ethical business practices you use on your Website.

*Author of original report: Frankly Speaking Inc should be Broken Record inc

How can a company or org get a way w/ calling you leaving a long msg on your answering machine, and charging your credit card w/o ever talking to you. I cant believe this, How in the *ell did they get my Name, Phone #, address, credit card #??? that's very scary.

I got recorded msg on my answering machine 11/5 I didn't play the entire thing, I hung up. I Received a letter on 11/7 stating that I would receive my Magazine subscription in 3 wks. I checked my bank records and found that they had charged my Visa/ debit card on 11/5. I did not talk to anyone, just had a recorded msg on my answering machine. How in the world did they get my Name, address, phone # and credit card # and charge it to my visa w/o my authorization.

I did a google search on the domain name and found a BB where a man said it happend to him.

I could not find a listing @ the I.R.S. for them as a non-profit org asn their letter states.

this is the info from the letter:

Frankly Speaking Inc

422 West Oglethorpe blvd.

Albany Georgia

31701

Company Web Site: http://www.franklyspeakingweb.org

Company E-Mail Address: [email protected]

Phone Number: (877)437-2800

(letter was postmarked from Tampa, fl)

I obtained the who is info from the website:

Domain ID: D98272764-LROR

Domain Name: FRANKLYSPEAKINGWEB.ORG

Created On: 19-Jun-2003 22:28:37 UTC

Last Updated On: 08-Oct-2003 07:40:56 UTC

Expiration Date: 19-Jun-2004 22:28:37 UTC

Sponsoring Registrar: R11-LROR

Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED

Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED

Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED

Registrant ID: tuBy4vVJR1E5OMBS

Registrant Name: Donald Lasker

Registrant Organization: Frankly Speaking Inc.

Registrant Street1: 422 West Oglethorpe Blvd.

Registrant City: Albany

Registrant State/Province: GA

Registrant Postal Code: 31701

Registrant Country:US

Registrant Phone: +1.2294367005

Registrant FAX: +1.2294367009

Registrant Email: [email protected]

Admin ID: tuBy4vVJR1E5OMBS

Admin Name: Donald Lasker

Admin Organization: Frankly Speaking Inc.

Admin Street1:422 West Oglethorpe Blvd.

Admin City:Albany

Admin State/Province:GA

Admin Postal Code:31701

Admin Country:US

Admin Phone:+1.2294367005

Admin Email: [email protected]

Billing ID: tuBy4vVJR1E5OMBS

Billing Name: Donald Lasker

Billing Organization: Frankly Speaking Inc.

Billing Street1: 422 West Oglethorpe Blvd.

Billing City:Albany

Billing State/Province:GA

Billing Postal Code:31701

Billing Country:US

Billing Phone:+1.2294367005

Billing Email: [email protected]

Tech ID: tuYzEZpLbNWzp6Wf

Tech Name: Domain Manager

Tech Organization: iPowerWeb

Tech Street1:2800 28th Street Suite 205

Tech City:Santa Monica

Tech State/Province:California

Tech Postal Code:90405

Tech Country:US

Tech Phone:+1.8885114678

Tech Email: [email protected]

Name Server: NS1.IPOWERWEB.NET

Name Server: NS1.IPOWERDNS.COM

Bj

Cresco, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

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4 Updates & Rebuttals

Cresco,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Frankly Speaking Inc should be Broken Record inc

#2Author of original report

Tue, November 11, 2003

Do you know any other words that what is on your website? You sound like a broken record. You should change the company name to Broken Record Inc. QUOTE "We discovered this media when a Credit Card Company gave me an Opt-out credit card protection policy, if I didn't want it I had to call them and opt out. If I didn't call I would be billed on my card" The credit card co. can do that be cause you already have a relationship with them. You have already entered into a contract W/ them. They didn't just pull an account # out of thin air and say we are going to charge this person w/o there knowledge. When they find out they will be so happy and want to Donate more money to help the children? No you are only making enemies out of the public. QUOTE "Our proceedures are we call a lead with a prerecorded message designed to find out who is interested and who is not.'" How does that prerecorded message know if that phone # it dialed is still good? Can you be sure that the card holder is the person answering the phone and not a 5 year old child? What about messages left on voice mail & answering machines, how do you know who will retrieve the messages. Could be the Teen age son who is just going to delete it. No you cant!

Cresco,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Frankly Speaking Inc, RE: your rip off technique, the same lame, skirting legalities & ethical business practices you use on your Website.

#3Author of original report

Tue, November 11, 2003

Your Rebuttal is the same lame, skirting legalities & ethical business practices you use on your Website. What is your excuse for using an address on your letter head, & both websites is a bogus address, it belongs to motel. All the while you are operating out of Florida. Don't want your charitable co. to be found. I wonder how the one's you are trying to help finds you. And The Phone # that is on the other site: http://newleaftransitionhouse.com/index.html well 229-883-7007 googles to China Garden USA, street address 2601 Dawson Rd, Albany, GA. What is legitimate about that. I spoke w/ My Bank & the IRS on Monday. Both wanted to know how you got my debit card #? The People that answer your 1 877-437-2800 won't answer that question of where do you get the credit card #'s from. It is standard practice for for info from Credit reporting Agencies, banks etc. to only list partial #'s. It's one thing for a co. to obtain list for contact purposes. I believe it is illegal to run a charge on a card w/o obtaining authorization. The reason you are not getting allot of complaints is due to people can't find your Co. When they use a search engine to find frankly speaking they find: Lou Paget; a one-woman, sexual revival - Frankly Speaking, Inc. Frankly Speaking Inc.'s mission - through the Lou Paget brand - is to provide enlightened and inspired content about sexuality and intimacy on multiple ...Category:Adult > Shopping > Books http://www.loupaget.com/ I spoke w/ Lou today via e-mail. They are really mad cause people are contacting them, thinking they were the ones that did the rip off. I hope you hear from Lou soon. Most people are simply going to give up. I mean it's only $9.95 right. And I bet that is exactly what you are counting on. I have time to investigate the matter.

Cresco,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Frankly Speaking ..The good news is There website has been suspended as of today

#4Author of original report

Mon, November 10, 2003

This Co. is actually operating out of St.Petersburg Fla. area. I did find record for the Vice president: CHARLENE E ARNOLD 2851 1ST AVE N ST PETERSBURG,FL 33713-8603 Employer Indent. Number 593603751. I called the IRS all they would do is confirm that the co. is a 501 charity. And gave me a fax # to send my info to launch a criminal investigation. fax: 513-263-3756. I found another website for them http://newleaftransitionhouse.com/index.html I'm sure it's a another rip off, it has the same address as the other one & there letter. Which the actual location of that address is The Economy Inn & suites. The good news is There website has been suspended as of today. I filed a complaint W/ their host. I suggest everyone who has been ripped of by them to file complaint reports.

Donald

St. Petersburg,
Florida,
U.S.A.

We are trying to help the kids

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, November 10, 2003

We have tried getting grants, they take one to two years. We discovered this media when a Credit Card Company gave me an Opt-out credit card protection policy, if I didn't want it I had to call them and opt out. If I didn't call I would be billed on my card. We are using this program to try to raise money for our Drug Abuse Prevention Program. Our proceedures are we call a lead with a prerecorded message designed to find out who is interested and who is not. It starts out "If you accidently find this on your answering machine it's important you listen to the whole message, It then tells you about receiving two one year subscriptions for only a one time shipping handling and donation charge of $9.95. The first opt-out oportunity is half way through we say if you are not interested hang up now, then we give an 800 number to call if you are not interested or if this was on your ANSWERING MACHINE, then we suggest if you are not interested now to press the #1 on your dial. Any of the above stops the process some people we have found think they can get it without the donation and do nothing. Then we send out a letter telling about the magazines and how we think we can save the kids from drug abuse. the letter also tells of the $9.95 S&H and Donation and to watch for it on your C C. We get the information from the same place all the big Companies get it Discover sells your info to Sears who sells to Fingerhut wo sells to Time-warner etc. etc. etc.. Everyone who uses a Credit Card is on a list or lists somewhere. Having someones Credit Card Numbers is not illegal as long as they are used for a legal purpose. We are a 501c3 status Non Profit Corporation. We have thousands of happy donors who say we are the only donation you get rewarded for

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