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  • Report:  #295449

Complaint Review: JD Byrider/CNAC - Toledo Ohio

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- Swanton, Ohio,
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JD Byrider/CNAC
Central Avenue Toledo, 43558 Ohio, U.S.A.
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Reading through all of these complaints, it is sad to say I am not at all surprised. All though our experience with both JD Byrider and CNAC weren't 100% bad, it doesn't surprise me at some of the tatics they have used on others here.

In 2003 when my husband and I decided we needed/wanted a newer car we went to our local JD Byrider, after all the hype we had seen on their commercials it had to be a good place right? Well the first thing we did was fill out the credit application to find out how much car we could get financed for, now mind you we both had two repos on our credit at this point. Surprisingly they gave us a pick of about 6 cars.

We choose to go with a 2000 Ford Focus, after all we had rented one for our vacation earlier that year and drove it to Florida and we loved it, it was big enough for our family of 4 and had plenty of room for us. Now after test driving we too noticed a few things wrong, the air bag light was one, and one of the back doors wouldn't lock using the automatic locking system and had to be locked manually. We were told we could bring it back in the following week for service.

So here we are about ready to drive away in our new car, and we are told we have to sit down and watch a video! I thought, what a video? For What? Well it is their introduction video into how their company and finacing work? Ok I had never had to go through that before when buying a car, lol Anyways then we are sent to financing, and there we meet who we like to refer to as the "BALL BUSTER" can't remember his name now, but anyways he basically sat us down and said if you don't make your payments on time you will hear from me and you don't want to hear from me, I kid you not those were his exact words!!!!

The following week we brought our car back in for the service, and yes we had to pay our own rental cost and I think that is wrong when it wasn't our fault the car needed servicing or even wear and tear we had done to the car, after all we had just gotten it! Anyways we get it back a day or two later and we decided on the way home to go get some dinner, driving home it started to get dark so on the head lights came, only to realize we didn't have any low beam lights! We had them when we took the car in, and now we only have high beam which by the way other drivers on the road that night weren't too pleased with us!!! Also the back door never did lock properly either.

We were late with one of our bi-weekly payments only once in the very beginning, and I must say they didn't really call and harrase us at all, we had called them and told them of the problem and told them when we would be in and that was that. Now the interest rate we pay by going to one of these places is outragouse, however if we didn't need to go to places like these then they wouldn't get away with charging those prices and would go out of business, however that will never happen. I agree just because you have some brusies on your credit shouldn't mean you are a horrible person or deserve to be taken advantage of, but I also have to say as a consumer we have to be willing to say no when we don't think we are getting the best deal we can.

If we weren't so quick to jump into that new car, and took the time to look around or even walk away when we are told the deal and we don't like it, we may get better deals. I admitt I too am one who can't seem to wait for that better interest rate or the better car. Our Payments were something we could afford otherwise we wouldn't have taken the car, we had done that twice before in our marriage and both times ended up with repos and we just weren't going to do that again.

I will say however that over the years of buying the car we had to put in a new engine, and towards the end it seemed like everyday something new broke, so finally when we were about two months from paying it off, we traded it in. We actually were able to go to a REAL dealership, however I must say I was more upset when leaving that REAL dealership then I ever was walking off of a JD Byrider lot. We were given many different cars to test drive and both my husband and I feel in love with one car, and now remember we had told the sales guy what we could afford to put down along with our trade, as we knew our trade with almost 200,000 miles wasn't going to be worth much, so in my opinion he shouldn't have had us test driving cars we couldn't afford to get into without coming up with more cash down which is just what he did!!!!

I fell in love with a 2004 Hyaundi Sonata, that car drove like it was on air, everything about that car I fell in love with. We told him we wanted that car. This was a Saturday, they weren't open on Sunday so Monday comes around and we get the call that we can't have that car unless we come up with 2,000 more dollars!!! I was heartbroken to say the least!!! I actually cried over not being able to get this car. My husband is a hard working man and he is a good man so why couldn't we have this? Anyways to make a long story short, we ended up with an OK car, but not the car of our dreams. Now this would have been a different story had the salesman not played with us by having us test drive something he knew fair well we wouldn't be able to get into without more cash down, now I know most people say we can only afford this but when pushed come up with the other money needed, however we walked onto that lot and said straight up, we aren't playing any games here, this is what we have and all we have. So I guess I felt as if he should have only showed us what we could afford with what we told him we had, I know he was only doing his job trying to get that higher end car sold but in that process I was let down!!!

So in short, Yes Jd Byrider does charge over the top prices on their cars and the interest rate alone tends to be more then what the actual principle on the car is, but as they say, we show people how to treat us, you may say to yourself, I didn't tell them to call and call and call when I was 3 hours late with a payment, NO you may not have told them that, however just the fact that you had to resort to puchasing your car from them tells them that they can treat you like crap, otherwise you wouldn't have brought from them.

I don't mean to sound as if I am on their side because believe me I am not, I too know we got screwed by their high interest rates and over the top prices they ask, however I would never start paperwork on a car without first knowing what the asking price was, I have heard that so many times here and I all I can think is why didn't you ask how much the car cost? You can't blame the salesmen for being sneaky when you admit you didn't even ask what the price was? Come on people take some responsibility for your own actions here too. We are not all victims of theirs, some of us by just being down right stupid in the moment asked to be taken. You may say to yourself I never asked to be screwed but didn't you really when you walked into a dealership, and i mean any dealership without knowing what you could afford to spend before you stepped onto the lot, we have to do our own homework and know the bottom line before we even step foot on the lot, otherwise they can make everything sound so good and show you numbers that look like you can afford and it isn't until after you have signed that paperwork and the payment comes due that you realize wait amintue I can't afford this, but by then it is too late, they have you!

So the next time you go for that new/used car please take the time to figure out before hand what you can afford, don't let them tell you well if you only had 500.00 more dollars cash we could get you in this car, if you had that 500.00 more you would have said so already. Just please be your own critic and make sure you only get ripped off for the amount you can afford to be ripped off for, after all these people are in business to make money, not get told sob stories.

Hollie

Swanton, Ohio

U.S.A.

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5 Updates & Rebuttals

Kerry

Toledo,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Car Smart

#2Consumer Suggestion

Sun, February 24, 2008

I have had the same problems in the past and then a friend of mine told me about car smart. It is in Toledo over on Jackman by Laskey. I went there thinking oh great another one of these car places, but it was actually great. I have had my new van for 6 months now with no problems and the customer service was great. They in no way will rip you off. My credit is pretty bad with a bankruptcy and a repo but they got me financed with o down and payments I could afford. So if you want a good car that you can depend on with payments that are pretty descent, I suggest you check out car smart. Bill was the guy who I dealt with and he was a pretty awesome person. I also know that if your not happy with the car you have you can go get the new one and then let them take your old back and by the time it hits your credit you'll already have your new car. It may not be the most honest way but hey if the dealers were honest we wouldn't have to resort to this anyway right. So good luck and I hope you find a goog car.


Hollie

Swanton,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Conventional Financing Not Always Able

#3Author of original report

Mon, January 07, 2008

To your comment Karl regarding why not go to your Credit Union or Bank to get financing in advance so places like JD Byrider can't take advantage of you, well my friend trust me if it were just that simple places like JD Byrider would be out of business. We as consumers don't walk into places like this because we want our hard earned money taken from us, we do it because we often times have no other choice. In my situation my husband and I did go to our bank to secure financing for a car we found being offered by a private Seller, this car was only $2,000 and we thought for sure we would be able to secure this amount however to our surprise we were turned down and if your own bank who knows your finances turns you down then chances are any other conventianal means of obtaining financing isn't going to be possible. As I stated in my original report, the only way we are going to insure that we don't get taken for everything we are worth when trying to rebuild our credit is to make sure we don't make the same mistakes we have made previous which put us in the situation to where we needed a place like this to finance a car and to do that we have to make sure we don't get in over our head again, and before you even step foot onto a lot, know how much you can afford to put down and what you can afford a month and stick to it, trust me no matter what the salesman tells you they have something you can afford, it may not be what the salesmen wants you to buy but they have it, so as long as you stick to your guns and walk away if needed you will get something you can afford and again it may possibly not be your dream car either but that is something you need to make yourself aware of before you even start the process of looking for a car, you need to make yourself aware that chances are you aren't going to end up in the car you have dreamed of since you were a child and that it will chances are be less then you would like to have but until you have a chance to rebuild that trust between you and the creditors this is something you have to do, after all you put yourself in this situation to begin with chances are, so now you have to grow up and deal with the consiquences of your past actions. Even after we almost had our JD Byrider CRAP paid off, I whole heartdly thought we would be able to walk onto any dealership lot and be able to secure normal financing on a used car and I was really shocked when it didn't seem to go that way, I mean yeah we ended up with a decent used car from a REAL dealership, however it wasn't the car I had hoped for, now I could have had that car but I woudl have had to come up with $1,000.00 more down and we just didn't have it, when we started the process of looking, we purposely went on a Saturday Afternoon, knowing that no deal could be completed that day and with the dealerships not being open on Sunday we would have time to think about what we were doing and make sure the deal was right for us. So we went to a few different dealerships and the first one we walked away from knowing we didn't want to buy any of the cars we were shown and so on to the second, now that is where I found the car I fell in love with and boy did I fall in love with it, lol it was hell waiting til Monday to find out if we were going to be able to get it with what we could afford down and when we got the call that we needed to come up with more down, my heart broke and I cried! Yes I really cried, but I didn't make the mistake so many of us make and decide we could afford that extra money because as I said before we started the process we sat down and decided what we could afford to put down and how much we could afford to pay monthly, and even though we could have come up with that extra money down, other bills would have suffered and that was what we were trying to get away from, putting other bills on the back burner so we could have something nicer that in the long run we couldn't afford. We had already done that twice before, I wasn't going to make that same mistake a third time even though I so wanted that car!!! So in closing, although most of us who end up on the lots like JD Byrider can't secure other means of financing otherwise they wouldnt' be there to begin with, still need to show some self control, know what you can afford to come out of pocket that day as your down payment, and know what you can afford monthly and if they can't get you into something for that then walk away and go to another place, there are dealerships like JD Byrider on every street corner it seems like so it isn't as if they are the only ones who will finance you at that high interest rate, trust me the one on the next corner will be happy to have your business, just be smart about it and although it won't happen overnight with time you will once again be able to get that good finance charge and a car you will be happy to own. Best of luck to all of you getting ready to go out and use your income tax as your down payment, just as I said be smart about it and don't get caught up in the same old net that got you here in the first place.


Stacie

Toledo,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
But where else can you get financed?

#4Consumer Comment

Sun, January 06, 2008

Belonging to a credit union won't guarantee you a loan, you won't necessarily get one - I couldn't. Another common thread here is time; it seems many people needed a car right away (I did!) and it takes a lot of time to get financed through a credit union or bank. Byrider uses this to their advantage - the more of a hurry customers are in to get the car, the easier it is to cheat them!


Stacie

Toledo,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
But where else can you get financed?

#5Consumer Comment

Sun, January 06, 2008

Belonging to a credit union won't guarantee you a loan, you won't necessarily get one - I couldn't. Another common thread here is time; it seems many people needed a car right away (I did!) and it takes a lot of time to get financed through a credit union or bank. Byrider uses this to their advantage - the more of a hurry customers are in to get the car, the easier it is to cheat them!


Karl

Clovis,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Why not arrange financing in advance?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Sun, December 30, 2007

If you have a job more than likely you have access to a credit union. Have you considered arranging financing in advance and then looking for a car, preferably from a private owner who can show you maintenance records? Why people with poor credit allow themselves to get beaten down by "buy here, pay here" dealerships is beyond me. The down payment is usually what the car is worth and the payments are just fluff. The dealer loves to repo the car so that he can sell it again for the same down payment. Perhaps it might be smarter to just spend the money that you would spend on a newer car and restore your old one.

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