I did not authorize Grant Writer Pro to take 39.95 out of my bank account twice totalling 79.90 in two days. I called their scam number 866-370-7270 no one home. I also called Ryan R. directly at 435-773-1795 or email Ryan at [email protected] again no one home. I left a message so far no one as called.

I also did not request any of their products. I was led to their scam site by a internet search, looking for work at home programs.

Richard O'Brien

Pigeon Forge, Tennessee

U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

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8 Updates & Rebuttals

Scooter

Pigeon Forge,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

Fraud Defined

#2Author of original report

Wed, December 19, 2007

Some claim Raven Media Inc. and Ryan Riddle can not be sued however there nothing further from the truth. The different names used by this group is nothing more than legal fronts. The thing that ties all the different names together with the different jurisdictions is fraud. Fraud defined simply put is, something done that tricks a person, misleads, misrepresents, hides, nondisclosure, concealment, misleading conduct, omissions just to name a few. It appears Ryan Riddle if this is a real name, may be hiding something. With the fact Raven Media Inc. to date has completely refused to provide ant true contact information, plus they use a company which shields and protects Raven Medis Inc. from it's victims. Fraud is the question of interest concerning Raven Media Inc.

Scooter

Pigeon Forge,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

Ryan Riddle scam artist?

#3Author of original report

Wed, December 19, 2007

Subject Raven Media Inc. a/k/a Grant Writer Pro Resolution Offer by Ryan Riddle General Manager NOTICE: Information being collected will be turned over the Attorney General Ryan Riddle General Manager, scam artist? Fraud is defined: a false and material misrepresentation made by one who knows it is falsity, misrepresentation, concealment of nondisclosure of a material fact, or at least misleading conduct, devices, or contrivance, it also includes all surprise, trick, cunning, dissembling and unfair ways by which another is cheated. Ryan Riddle con artist, on the web site that lead me into this scam, you provided a link which was and is a deception. Ryan Riddle, I am sure you would like nothing more than to take credit for me getting my funds back. I used the information found right here on Rippoff Report, went to back my bank with this information, the bank done the rest. And, no you did not just give my funds back you stole, there was a large resistance on your part, but the bank manager, who was filling out the E-forms, was able to over ride the resistance offered by your scam artist aids. It appears Ryan Riddle can't tell even the smallest amount of truth. I did not contact you are any of your con-artist assistants looking for a refund my bank did that. The bank also closed my account thanks to your scam. However I did call your scam artist assistants looking for a real legal mailing address, so that I could serve papers, however once again your scam assistants refused to provide the information needed. Dorothy Camp supervisor who is one your scam artist assistants. Dorothy Camp completely refused to disclose any information, including what state your home office is based in. Ryan Riddle, your are connected to a company calling it self, "Privacy Protection Inc." based in Bellevue WA. 98007 This company provides the necessary means to block all attempts to collect contact information on you and your company of scam artist. You can hide behind old ladies i.e... Dorothy Camp supervisor, and your so called assistants and companies like Privacy Protection Inc. Fraud is a crime, the light of the law will find you out! Scooter

Ceooftheworld

Ephraim,
Utah,
U.S.A.

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#4Consumer Comment

Tue, December 18, 2007

The 'Other names' you have listed aren't so much "other names" rather than different marketing regions. Not everything appeals to everyone with a single name nationwide, which is why all companies will change program names slightly depending on the given region. I have personally had no problems with this company and find it funny that you say they took money "without permission" if you read the site it tells you everything about the terms and conditions. And the person you spoke to is correct, you by law could not sue them, you could try but you would lose. All the required information they are required to give on their sales page is made available.

Scooter

Pigeon Forge,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

More Information on Raven Media Inc. a/k/a Grant Writer Pro

#5Author of original report

Wed, November 28, 2007

My Bank, Citizens National Bank, in Tennessee used the E-form and called Raven Media Inc. got my money back, then closed my account. It has been reported that Raven Media Inc., home base is located at PMB 386, 14150 NE 20th St.- F1, Bellevue WA. This is an untrue statement. Researching the company located at the above address is a company that calls itself, " Privacy Protection Service Inc. ". This company provides the protections required for Raven Media Inc. to conduct it's scam on such a mass scale. Ryan Riddle, is the General Manager. Of what is not clear or known. Dorthy Camp, is he a Supervisor; When I talked to Camp, she refused the to tell me what state their main office was in. She further refused to provide proper legal mailing addresses of any the company officials including Ryan Riddle. When I told Camp, my plan was to sue them, she laughed and said it couldn't be done.

Ryan

St. George,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Resolution Offer

#6UPDATE Employee

Tue, November 27, 2007

I was able to locate Scooter's account and have verified that he was contacted and his account has been canceled and fully refunded. It is not our policy to ever charge a customer that is not interested in utilizing the additional services that accompany the free CD. Clients simply need to do as Scooter has done and follow the instructions to contact customer support at 1-866-370-7270 and express a desire to cancel services during the free trial period, or anytime thereafter. If you are another customer that is reading this and you feel that we have failed you in some way please call me directly at 435-773-1795 or email me at [email protected] and I would be happy to address your concerns ASAP. Sincerely, Ryan R.

Ryan

St. George,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Resolution Offer

#7UPDATE Employee

Tue, November 27, 2007

Ryan

St. George,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Resolution Offer

#8UPDATE Employee

Tue, November 27, 2007

Scooter

Pigeon Forge,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

Updated Information on Grant Writer Pro_5

#9Author of original report

Sun, November 25, 2007

The package that was sent to me, which I did not request had a address form Las Vagas Nevada, but had a U.S. Postage stamp from Staint George Uath. Other names connected to Grant Writer Pro, Grant Master, Raven Media Inc., Express Business Funding, GrantSearch Assistant, GrantMaster, Easy Google Profit and IWORKS. Other web addresses connected with Grant Writer Pro, secure.ravenmediainc.com/sites/GrantWriterPro_5/ secretnicheproducts.com/grantwriterpro/ linkedin.com/in/iWorks/ This is a crime that reaches across all jurisdictions, don't be fooled by their professional look, it is all fraud.

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