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Complaint Review: Swinford Sporting Dog Association - Lee Robinson - Chimera Kennels - Brandon Mississippi

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Swinford Sporting Dog Association - Lee Robinson - Chimera Kennels
171 Sand Hill CD Brandon, 39047 Mississippi, U.S.A.
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601-829-0113
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This Man Lee Robinson Sold me bull crap dog about 6 month ago telling me that his papers will get to me. Also selling Dogs from DVM that is not living and been deaded for years. So how do you know this man have pure breed John B. Swinford Dogs. He really don't have them just lying to buyers and Consumers. Also he is not with the BBB aka Better Business Bureaus and also His Breeding Kennel and Association is also not Incorporate Organize. Lying people need to be stoped this name is full of Spam and Ripping people off. Nobody have Real John B. Swinford dogs because the man is deaded and also his dogs with him.

This man Lee Robinson and Family Member are all big Front just to get people to Think he have the Original John B Swinford dogs Buyers Beware from this lying morons. This Lee Robinson is selling Dogs from is no longer with us ask he brought dogs from John B Swinford.You people need to learn the truth from people I will tell it. For year now this man Lee Robinson have been lying. He is breed un registry mutts ask pure breed dogs with there own name that is American Bandogs and American Bandogges.

What they really do that this place??

Swinford Sporting Dog Association

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TheTruth

Brandon, Mississippi

U.S.A.

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5 Updates & Rebuttals

Hetherwick

Duson,
Louisiana,
United States of America
Bandogge

#2General Comment

Fri, March 12, 2010

I have a mix of a Cane Corso and Pitbull which is a wonderful dog.  You can't have registered papers on a hybrid dog.  From what I have seen on his website they seem to be running a good business with plenty of educated information on what they do and how they train.  I would love one of their dogs or to actually have mine trained by this gentlemen.  I would be more worried about the man writing the report who is somehow a breeder because his spelling is terrible and I question his overall intentions.


Chimera Kennels

Brandon,
Mississippi,
U.S.A.
False accusation by masterofallbulldogs. He never did business w/ Chimera Kennels

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, October 07, 2008

I am the owner of Chimera Kennels. We strive to be as professional as possible. Mr. Jose Winston (aka "masterofallbulldogs" of the OREBA), whom we have NEVER done business with, filed this anonymous, false, libel, and defamatory statement about us on ripoffreport.com because we refused to support his organization. He never purchased a dog from usas I would never sell such a person a dog. As seen here http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs , Mr. Winston is a very angry person with a very aggressive demeanor. He has also been known to harass a number of people. To illustrate that Mr. Jose Winston's accusation is false, I ask Mr. Winston to provide a documentation of a sell of a dog (an SSDA registry form or a shipping receipt) for the said dog that he claims to have received. All of our dogs Swinford are registered ONLY with the Swinford Sporting Dog Association, SSDA, and since he did not get a dog from us, he will not be able to provide a copy of this registration form. Mr. Winston also will not be able to provide a valid receipt of any purchase, nor will he be able to provide any shipping ticket for the said purchase. I know this because we have NEVER sold a dog to Mr. Jose Winston, nor have we ever done business with him in any way. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com does not remove any libel statements as they feel the "proper way to handle" such accusations is to have the owner of a business file a rebuttal and challenge the accuser to provide any proof of their claim. I completely disagree with ripoffreport's decision on the matter...but their decision is what it is. I would think that any reputable "reporting association" would require some proof of validation when an issue is challenged, but the only proof they require is for a person to click their mouse on a box that "confirms" everything is true...which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Although I believe in free speech, I also believe in accountability to such speech...and believe false accusations should be corrected. To me, it shouldn't matter if a statement is made on the Internet or any other form of communication, people who make libel statements and support such activities IMO should be held accountable. I support the idea that one should not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Although I personally feel a website provider is in some manner a publisher and feel they should have some responsibly to confirm said accusations as valid, it seems as if my view of this may not be important...as ripoffreport.com claims they are not responsible for false or libel statements being made on their websitetheir view on such matters can be seen on their terms of use page. As a result, they refuse to remove any accusation...even if it is false and even if the author of the post requests its removal. Their policy on this matter in other words seems not negotiable even when accusations are invalid. So, let me explain Mr. Winston's motive for filing this libel and false report. Mr. Winston frequently contacted me asking me to support his registry. I told him I was familiar with his reputation and that I was not interested in doing business with him or being associated with him in any way. I also asked him to stop contacting us. In informed him that was aware of members in his registry AND his family (Kwame Winston) having been arrested for animal abuse and animal cruelty charges. He told me the charges were not true and that anyone can say anything about anyone. He asked me not to believe what was reported on ripoffreport.com ( http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/372/RipOff0372018.htm ) about his business (OREBA - "Old Red English Bulldog Association"). I informed him that I was not familiar with his issues on the ripoff.com Website, but heard about the animal abuse report via reports in the news media. I also informed Mr. Winston that I had heard he had used photos of dogs that were owned and bred by other people on his website and that he suggested such photos to be his dogs...all of which gave me concerns about his association...as it represents mannerisms and behavior I do not condone. Finally, while informing Mr. Jose Winston that my decision to not support his registry was final and asked him to not contact us anymore, he began using very racist terms and negative talk about "white Americans." If one researches Mr. Jose Winston or "Masterofallbulldogs" for videos or youtube.com, what they will find will be videos he created where he plainly voices his many anti-white and anti-American views. Here is a link to his video web page. http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs Again, this is not the type of person I wish to associate with because I do not share such views, as I believe in equality for all. Upon expressing my decision to him, Mr. Jose Winston told me he would "prove to me that anyone can say anything about anyone and that he would have the last word." Apparently, filing this libel report about us is what he was talking about. I have contacted a lawyer on the matter of libel statements being made by Mr. Jose Winston...and perhaps we will pursue legal action for making such statements...as he has NEVER done business with me and I MOST CERTAINLY have NEVER sold him a dog. The claim that he got a dog from us is completely invalid...and one that he would never be able to provesince one can not prove something that never happened. Of course, the time required by me to pursue this may or may not be worth it...so, dealing with a libel report made by Mr. Jose Winston isn't my top priority at this time. Plus, I doubt that Mr. Winston has any assets worth acquiring...as he seems like a very upset and frustrated man that blames the world for his failures. If you think I am exaggerating about his mannerisms and racially distorted views of white America, feel free to view some of his videos to see this for yourself either here (http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs) or by searching Jose Winston or masterofallbulldogs on youtube. This is why I chose NOT TO BE associated with this individual and it is why I chose to NOT support his "registry." Anyway, this may be the end of this...but it also may not be. I don't yet know what our course of action will be for these false accusations and libel statements. I guess we will just have to see what happens. Perhaps, Mr. Winston will come back and admit his accusation was a false oneand state he shouldn't have made the accusation about someone he had never done business with. It should also be noted that "masterofallbulldogs" (Jose Winston) has used abused ripoffreport.com's platform as a place to file complaints against several people. I don't know the details of these situations, but I find the excessive use of ripoffreport.com very skeptical. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/363/RipOff0363159.htm http://ripoffreport.com/reports/0/309/RipOff0309263.htm http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/322/RipOff0322688.htm


Chimera Kennels

Brandon,
Mississippi,
U.S.A.
False accusation by masterofallbulldogs. He never did business w/ Chimera Kennels

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, October 07, 2008

I am the owner of Chimera Kennels. We strive to be as professional as possible. Mr. Jose Winston (aka "masterofallbulldogs" of the OREBA), whom we have NEVER done business with, filed this anonymous, false, libel, and defamatory statement about us on ripoffreport.com because we refused to support his organization. He never purchased a dog from usas I would never sell such a person a dog. As seen here http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs , Mr. Winston is a very angry person with a very aggressive demeanor. He has also been known to harass a number of people. To illustrate that Mr. Jose Winston's accusation is false, I ask Mr. Winston to provide a documentation of a sell of a dog (an SSDA registry form or a shipping receipt) for the said dog that he claims to have received. All of our dogs Swinford are registered ONLY with the Swinford Sporting Dog Association, SSDA, and since he did not get a dog from us, he will not be able to provide a copy of this registration form. Mr. Winston also will not be able to provide a valid receipt of any purchase, nor will he be able to provide any shipping ticket for the said purchase. I know this because we have NEVER sold a dog to Mr. Jose Winston, nor have we ever done business with him in any way. Unfortunately, ripoffreport.com does not remove any libel statements as they feel the "proper way to handle" such accusations is to have the owner of a business file a rebuttal and challenge the accuser to provide any proof of their claim. I completely disagree with ripoffreport's decision on the matter...but their decision is what it is. I would think that any reputable "reporting association" would require some proof of validation when an issue is challenged, but the only proof they require is for a person to click their mouse on a box that "confirms" everything is true...which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Although I believe in free speech, I also believe in accountability to such speech...and believe false accusations should be corrected. To me, it shouldn't matter if a statement is made on the Internet or any other form of communication, people who make libel statements and support such activities IMO should be held accountable. I support the idea that one should not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Although I personally feel a website provider is in some manner a publisher and feel they should have some responsibly to confirm said accusations as valid, it seems as if my view of this may not be important...as ripoffreport.com claims they are not responsible for false or libel statements being made on their websitetheir view on such matters can be seen on their terms of use page. As a result, they refuse to remove any accusation...even if it is false and even if the author of the post requests its removal. Their policy on this matter in other words seems not negotiable even when accusations are invalid. So, let me explain Mr. Winston's motive for filing this libel and false report. Mr. Winston frequently contacted me asking me to support his registry. I told him I was familiar with his reputation and that I was not interested in doing business with him or being associated with him in any way. I also asked him to stop contacting us. In informed him that was aware of members in his registry AND his family (Kwame Winston) having been arrested for animal abuse and animal cruelty charges. He told me the charges were not true and that anyone can say anything about anyone. He asked me not to believe what was reported on ripoffreport.com ( http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/372/RipOff0372018.htm ) about his business (OREBA - "Old Red English Bulldog Association"). I informed him that I was not familiar with his issues on the ripoff.com Website, but heard about the animal abuse report via reports in the news media. I also informed Mr. Winston that I had heard he had used photos of dogs that were owned and bred by other people on his website and that he suggested such photos to be his dogs...all of which gave me concerns about his association...as it represents mannerisms and behavior I do not condone. Finally, while informing Mr. Jose Winston that my decision to not support his registry was final and asked him to not contact us anymore, he began using very racist terms and negative talk about "white Americans." If one researches Mr. Jose Winston or "Masterofallbulldogs" for videos or youtube.com, what they will find will be videos he created where he plainly voices his many anti-white and anti-American views. Here is a link to his video web page. http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs Again, this is not the type of person I wish to associate with because I do not share such views, as I believe in equality for all. Upon expressing my decision to him, Mr. Jose Winston told me he would "prove to me that anyone can say anything about anyone and that he would have the last word." Apparently, filing this libel report about us is what he was talking about. I have contacted a lawyer on the matter of libel statements being made by Mr. Jose Winston...and perhaps we will pursue legal action for making such statements...as he has NEVER done business with me and I MOST CERTAINLY have NEVER sold him a dog. The claim that he got a dog from us is completely invalid...and one that he would never be able to provesince one can not prove something that never happened. Of course, the time required by me to pursue this may or may not be worth it...so, dealing with a libel report made by Mr. Jose Winston isn't my top priority at this time. Plus, I doubt that Mr. Winston has any assets worth acquiring...as he seems like a very upset and frustrated man that blames the world for his failures. If you think I am exaggerating about his mannerisms and racially distorted views of white America, feel free to view some of his videos to see this for yourself either here (http://uk.youtube.com/MasterOfAllBulldogs) or by searching Jose Winston or masterofallbulldogs on youtube. This is why I chose NOT TO BE associated with this individual and it is why I chose to NOT support his "registry." Anyway, this may be the end of this...but it also may not be. I don't yet know what our course of action will be for these false accusations and libel statements. I guess we will just have to see what happens. Perhaps, Mr. Winston will come back and admit his accusation was a false oneand state he shouldn't have made the accusation about someone he had never done business with. It should also be noted that "masterofallbulldogs" (Jose Winston) has used abused ripoffreport.com's platform as a place to file complaints against several people. I don't know the details of these situations, but I find the excessive use of ripoffreport.com very skeptical. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/363/RipOff0363159.htm http://ripoffreport.com/reports/0/309/RipOff0309263.htm http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/322/RipOff0322688.htm


Swinford

Seaside,
California,
U.S.A.
NO liar

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, September 16, 2008

I own a swinford standard dog from Chimera kennels. Lee is not a liar he is a very educated breeder and if you read the info on his site you will see that he never claims his dogs come from swinford blood as we all know theres no way to really track the few dogs he breed. However his dogs follow the same standards for breeding and testing. The swinford dog is a type i.e. breed not blood that he is refering . He has one of the best breeding programs going and anyone who has a dog from him should know the quality of them. My dog is by far the best dog i have ever owned health , temper , and drives are all what he said they would be. So do your home work he never states his dogs come from John swinford, But they do follow the breed standard and i have the papers for mine . And there is no breeder of bandogge or bandog or american mastiff that is akc because the breed is not recognized yet.


Masterofallbulldogs

Summerville,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.
Buyer Beware Swinford Sporting Dog Association - Lee Robinson - Wendy Robinson

#6Author of original report

Fri, August 22, 2008

Please Need to learn the truth about this man. This man don't have Swinford Bandogge or Bandogs. This man is selling a Name that he really don't have the Original Breeder dogs. This Man Lee is known liar need to be stoped.

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