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  • Report:  #87809

Complaint Review: Windthing - David Hill - Kris Hill - Nebraska City Nebraska

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- Fairhaven, Massachusetts,
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Updated:

Windthing - David Hill - Kris Hill
P.o. Box 496 Nebraska City, 68410 Nebraska, U.S.A.
Phone:
402-297-6910
Web:
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Windthing stated that if you buy their business opportunity you can make over $1,000 each week and close to $2,000 some weeks. They charge from $3,000 to $20, 975 for their opportunity depending on which package you buy. I followed their instructions and would have made more money working at Mc Donald's.

David said just about anything to get my money. After he had it, his only concern was that I keep providing him with money by purchasing more product through him. My last order from September 2, 2003 had the wrong merchandise, wrong prices (much higher), and was sent six to eight weeks later than I would have had any use for it. Four times he told me that a call tag (prepaid return pick-up) would be issued. Seven plus months later it has not been done!

In our phone conversation prior to my sending him any money, he explained how he offered to buy the business back from one dealer. He said that the dealer changed locations and was happy now. I changed locations three times with very little difference, and David dismissed the idea of buying the business back from me.

I sent him a detailed letter (3 Pages) explaining my dissatisfaction with the business and giving him the opportunity to make things right, and again reminding him of the promised call tag I never got. To date I have received no response!

Windthing and Kris and David Hill have ignored the FTC Rule requiring full disclosure of the business opportunity. My next complaint will be filled with the FTC.

My advice to you if this type of business interests you is to look anywhere else!

Mike

Fairhaven, Massachusetts
U.S.A.


8 Updates & Rebuttals

Sam

Georgetown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Windthing Is Not a Rip Off!!

#2Consumer Comment

Thu, March 31, 2005

We joined with Dave & Kris Hill in August, 2003 and have made the monies they say you can make, plus more. We had $60,000.00 in gross sales last year (2004) and that can be verified by the Sales Tax I paid to the state of Texas, and by the Tax's I paid to the IRS. On Mothers Day weekend of 2004 we had sales of just over $5000.00 for just the two days. Our daily average sales were $1100.00 per day up thru July of 2003. They then dropped off some but picked up when the weather cooled down some. You have to get out and find a good location, and then you have to have a good display set up to attract the people. You also have to talk with EVERY customer, and be honest with them. Explain the product, and if they have any problems you have to be there to help them. We have allot of repeat customers that come back and buy more product from us. The Whole time I have worked with Dave and Kris, I have not had any problems. They are Honest, and Respectful people that are being wrongfully accused. I am sure the Gentelman that posted the "Rip-Off" report just did not have good locations, and/or displays and could have made it work by talking with other Windthing operators, and exchanging ideas with them. We do that all the time here in Texas and all of are doing very well. We do wish him well in his future endevors. Thank You, for reading this rebuttal.


Sam

Georgetown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Windthing Is Not a Rip Off!!

#3Consumer Comment

Thu, March 31, 2005

We joined with Dave & Kris Hill in August, 2003 and have made the monies they say you can make, plus more. We had $60,000.00 in gross sales last year (2004) and that can be verified by the Sales Tax I paid to the state of Texas, and by the Tax's I paid to the IRS. On Mothers Day weekend of 2004 we had sales of just over $5000.00 for just the two days. Our daily average sales were $1100.00 per day up thru July of 2003. They then dropped off some but picked up when the weather cooled down some. You have to get out and find a good location, and then you have to have a good display set up to attract the people. You also have to talk with EVERY customer, and be honest with them. Explain the product, and if they have any problems you have to be there to help them. We have allot of repeat customers that come back and buy more product from us. The Whole time I have worked with Dave and Kris, I have not had any problems. They are Honest, and Respectful people that are being wrongfully accused. I am sure the Gentelman that posted the "Rip-Off" report just did not have good locations, and/or displays and could have made it work by talking with other Windthing operators, and exchanging ideas with them. We do that all the time here in Texas and all of are doing very well. We do wish him well in his future endevors. Thank You, for reading this rebuttal.


Sam

Georgetown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Windthing Is Not a Rip Off!!

#4Consumer Comment

Thu, March 31, 2005

We joined with Dave & Kris Hill in August, 2003 and have made the monies they say you can make, plus more. We had $60,000.00 in gross sales last year (2004) and that can be verified by the Sales Tax I paid to the state of Texas, and by the Tax's I paid to the IRS. On Mothers Day weekend of 2004 we had sales of just over $5000.00 for just the two days. Our daily average sales were $1100.00 per day up thru July of 2003. They then dropped off some but picked up when the weather cooled down some. You have to get out and find a good location, and then you have to have a good display set up to attract the people. You also have to talk with EVERY customer, and be honest with them. Explain the product, and if they have any problems you have to be there to help them. We have allot of repeat customers that come back and buy more product from us. The Whole time I have worked with Dave and Kris, I have not had any problems. They are Honest, and Respectful people that are being wrongfully accused. I am sure the Gentelman that posted the "Rip-Off" report just did not have good locations, and/or displays and could have made it work by talking with other Windthing operators, and exchanging ideas with them. We do that all the time here in Texas and all of are doing very well. We do wish him well in his future endevors. Thank You, for reading this rebuttal.


Sam

Georgetown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Windthing Is Not a Rip Off!!

#5Consumer Comment

Thu, March 31, 2005

We joined with Dave & Kris Hill in August, 2003 and have made the monies they say you can make, plus more. We had $60,000.00 in gross sales last year (2004) and that can be verified by the Sales Tax I paid to the state of Texas, and by the Tax's I paid to the IRS. On Mothers Day weekend of 2004 we had sales of just over $5000.00 for just the two days. Our daily average sales were $1100.00 per day up thru July of 2003. They then dropped off some but picked up when the weather cooled down some. You have to get out and find a good location, and then you have to have a good display set up to attract the people. You also have to talk with EVERY customer, and be honest with them. Explain the product, and if they have any problems you have to be there to help them. We have allot of repeat customers that come back and buy more product from us. The Whole time I have worked with Dave and Kris, I have not had any problems. They are Honest, and Respectful people that are being wrongfully accused. I am sure the Gentelman that posted the "Rip-Off" report just did not have good locations, and/or displays and could have made it work by talking with other Windthing operators, and exchanging ideas with them. We do that all the time here in Texas and all of are doing very well. We do wish him well in his future endevors. Thank You, for reading this rebuttal.


Mike

Fairhaven,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
David and Kris Hill was filed today

#6Author of original report

Wed, April 21, 2004

A complaint against www.windthing.com, windthing.com, windthing, David and Kris Hill was filed today (4/20/2004) with the Federal Trade Commission.


Mike

Fairhaven,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.

#7Author of original report

Fri, April 16, 2004

Today (April 16, 2004) I received a letter from John W. Voelker, the attorney representing Kris and David Hill. He said that he reviewed my letter to the Hills and that they respectfully decline to allow me to return the unsold product for a refund. He suggests that the Hills and Windthing are dealers for various manufacturers, not a business opportunity, even though the FTC rule says that they are a business opportunity, and are required to provide full disclosure prior to entering into any contact. I would guess Attorney Voelker feels that the Hills are not under any obligation, contractual or otherwise to see that their customers receive the correct product, at the correct price and in a timely fashion. They do not seem to care at all, and after seven months have not solved the problem. They , by contract would require their customers to buy only through them even though they fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.


Mike

Fairhaven,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.

#8Author of original report

Fri, April 16, 2004

Today (April 16, 2004) I received a letter from John W. Voelker, the attorney representing Kris and David Hill. He said that he reviewed my letter to the Hills and that they respectfully decline to allow me to return the unsold product for a refund. He suggests that the Hills and Windthing are dealers for various manufacturers, not a business opportunity, even though the FTC rule says that they are a business opportunity, and are required to provide full disclosure prior to entering into any contact. I would guess Attorney Voelker feels that the Hills are not under any obligation, contractual or otherwise to see that their customers receive the correct product, at the correct price and in a timely fashion. They do not seem to care at all, and after seven months have not solved the problem. They , by contract would require their customers to buy only through them even though they fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.


Mike

Fairhaven,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.

#9Author of original report

Fri, April 16, 2004

Today (April 16, 2004) I received a letter from John W. Voelker, the attorney representing Kris and David Hill. He said that he reviewed my letter to the Hills and that they respectfully decline to allow me to return the unsold product for a refund. He suggests that the Hills and Windthing are dealers for various manufacturers, not a business opportunity, even though the FTC rule says that they are a business opportunity, and are required to provide full disclosure prior to entering into any contact. I would guess Attorney Voelker feels that the Hills are not under any obligation, contractual or otherwise to see that their customers receive the correct product, at the correct price and in a timely fashion. They do not seem to care at all, and after seven months have not solved the problem. They , by contract would require their customers to buy only through them even though they fail to provide even a very basic level of service to their customers.

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