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7 Acre Kennels JaNae Or Michell Archer Are Mutt Breeders buyers beware of these people here Olde Bulldogge Breeders of mutts, Idaho Bulldogge Breeders of mutts - 7acrekennels.com Black Foot Ohio
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The Truth About 7 Acre Kennels
*General Comment: 7 Acre Kennels JaNae Or Michell Archer
*General Comment: Hey I found a cute little article written by our pal, Masterofallbulls...I thought his name was Jose? Irony at its best, it looks like he is having some dog problems.
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: IGNORE KWAME WINSTONS FALSE ALLIGATIONS
Buyers Beware these people are puppy millers they are selling mutts as pure breed dogs. People need to learn the truth the IOEBA & WBA breed standards are mutt. These are registry that will registry anything as Olde English Bulldogges.
People need to understand the Olde English Bulldogge have tail and it is working dogs like the American Bulldogs. Also shouldn't look like Big English Bulldogs with cut tail or "SCREWED" TAILS.
These people are Back yard breeders selling you mutts. IOEBA is bull sh*t registry also WBA and OBBA are all Bull Sh*t Registry. They are un truth people here. They don't tell you the truth these people are cross dogs and selling them as pure breed dogs. People That don't have address on there web site is some what lying about something. These people are lying and selling sick mutts. The Real Olde English Bulldogge Standard is at OREBA and LBA these are the Original Olde English Bulldogges these other people are mutt and puppy mill breeeders.
The Truth is here
In 1950 1971 1960, Mr Winston, Mr Leavitt and Mr Hermes started this project of breeding a dog with the looks of the 18th century Bulldog. I had become disenchanted with English Bulldogs, due to breeding and breathing problems. I discovered that they didn't look like their ancestors, who were healthier and less extreme. I found that bull and bear-baiting had been very widespread for hundreds of years. Extreme cruelty to animals was inherent in baiting sports. This cruelty was abhorrent to me, but I was fascinated by the great tenacity and courage of the over-matched underdog. I was also drawn to the Bulldog because of his fierce appearance. A modern protection dog, which looks really tough, will repulse an assailant without having to bite. This is the most desirable end to a confrontation. I couldn't find a reliable source for old style Bulldogs, and set about the daunting task of breeding back. I named the breed Olde English Bulldogge.
Research has been critical in developing a standard. I have period statues, paintings, prints, and all the important older dog books. I found that Bulldog sizes varied during different periods, due to changes in the way the baits were staged. Like all old working breeds, Bulldogs were not bred to a strict standard. Their distinctive body, head, and temperament, were dictated instead by their work.
I do not want the temperament of the original Bulldog. My dogs must be very loving. They must have courage and determination, without being overly aggressive. I've found that I can't count on buyers to get their dogs under good obedience control. If I have to make a mistake, it must be on the friendly side, and if someone wants their dog to be sharper, all it takes is bit of training. I'd rather teach a friendly dog to bite, then vice versa.
I'm using a line-breeding scheme, developed for cattle at Ohio State University. You start with 3 unrelated dogs, two males and one female. Female pups from the first cross are bred to the second male. From this point, females are bred back to uncles, each generation. I have 2 unrelated schemes started, so future outcrosses will be possible. I've used breeds that all have old Bulldog in their background. My dogs are half English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog. The process of getting the dogs to match the old depictions is actually rapid due to the breeds used, and a dogs' short gestation period. I try to get on to the next generation as quickly as possible, to make genetic progress and get consistent results. I'm up to the eight and ninth generations on the two lines, at the time of this printing in 1989, 1995.
My dogs can now breathe. They will never be like hounds, able to run for miles during the hottest weather of summer, but they're three times better than the restricted modern Bulldog. Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred. I'm now achieving my goal of producing a Bulldog with the health and temperament to be able to serve people, instead of forcing people to serve him.
JOSE W.
New York, New York
U.S.A.
People need to understand the Olde English Bulldogge have tail and it is working dogs like the American Bulldogs. Also shouldn't look like Big English Bulldogs with cut tail or "SCREWED" TAILS.
These people are Back yard breeders selling you mutts. IOEBA is bull sh*t registry also WBA and OBBA are all Bull Sh*t Registry. They are un truth people here. They don't tell you the truth these people are cross dogs and selling them as pure breed dogs. People That don't have address on there web site is some what lying about something. These people are lying and selling sick mutts. The Real Olde English Bulldogge Standard is at OREBA and LBA these are the Original Olde English Bulldogges these other people are mutt and puppy mill breeeders.
The Truth is here
In 1950 1971 1960, Mr Winston, Mr Leavitt and Mr Hermes started this project of breeding a dog with the looks of the 18th century Bulldog. I had become disenchanted with English Bulldogs, due to breeding and breathing problems. I discovered that they didn't look like their ancestors, who were healthier and less extreme. I found that bull and bear-baiting had been very widespread for hundreds of years. Extreme cruelty to animals was inherent in baiting sports. This cruelty was abhorrent to me, but I was fascinated by the great tenacity and courage of the over-matched underdog. I was also drawn to the Bulldog because of his fierce appearance. A modern protection dog, which looks really tough, will repulse an assailant without having to bite. This is the most desirable end to a confrontation. I couldn't find a reliable source for old style Bulldogs, and set about the daunting task of breeding back. I named the breed Olde English Bulldogge.
Research has been critical in developing a standard. I have period statues, paintings, prints, and all the important older dog books. I found that Bulldog sizes varied during different periods, due to changes in the way the baits were staged. Like all old working breeds, Bulldogs were not bred to a strict standard. Their distinctive body, head, and temperament, were dictated instead by their work.
I do not want the temperament of the original Bulldog. My dogs must be very loving. They must have courage and determination, without being overly aggressive. I've found that I can't count on buyers to get their dogs under good obedience control. If I have to make a mistake, it must be on the friendly side, and if someone wants their dog to be sharper, all it takes is bit of training. I'd rather teach a friendly dog to bite, then vice versa.
I'm using a line-breeding scheme, developed for cattle at Ohio State University. You start with 3 unrelated dogs, two males and one female. Female pups from the first cross are bred to the second male. From this point, females are bred back to uncles, each generation. I have 2 unrelated schemes started, so future outcrosses will be possible. I've used breeds that all have old Bulldog in their background. My dogs are half English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog. The process of getting the dogs to match the old depictions is actually rapid due to the breeds used, and a dogs' short gestation period. I try to get on to the next generation as quickly as possible, to make genetic progress and get consistent results. I'm up to the eight and ninth generations on the two lines, at the time of this printing in 1989, 1995.
My dogs can now breathe. They will never be like hounds, able to run for miles during the hottest weather of summer, but they're three times better than the restricted modern Bulldog. Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred. I'm now achieving my goal of producing a Bulldog with the health and temperament to be able to serve people, instead of forcing people to serve him.
JOSE W.
New York, New York
U.S.A.
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Plainview,New York,
U.S.A.
IGNORE KWAME WINSTONS FALSE ALLIGATIONS
#2REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, June 17, 2010
Any remarks against a competitor against Kwame Winstons Old Red English Bulldogs Kennel, oldbulldogs.com Moncks Corner, South Carolina, and Freeport NY should be ignored as it is a scam fraud operation run by convicted criminal and con artist kwame winston. (Bloods gang member)
His website states he has a wordl wide kennel and lists the following; Full Registry
and Family Tree - Any dog he sells has no official breed papers., just his own made up association name OREBA. This is so he can get away with selling dogs picked up in the streets and sold for profession prices. He used a U.S. small loan to promote this fake kennel operations.
The True Winston Bloodlines Founder: Mr. Eddy Winston 98 years old - Winstons father died a number of years ago, and was not involved in dogs. Dogs that he sells come from different locations, and people, not from a line of dogs he really owns and/or breeds.
He lists a number of family members, how many are real people, if any, is hard to know, but no one else is really involved with dogs.
Member: associations and groups he works with are made up, who really come back to him, or have no connection to winston's fake kennel.
Anyone who checks out these so called sites will quickly find how he lies about everything on his made up website.
Old Red English Bulldogges Association Rescue Network is composed of only Winston It states This Web site is to help to stop these Lying American Right people. Actually, he picks up pound animals from $10 to $15, or free, then sells it for $500, at no expense to himself. He calls this an adoption fee.
He has a Big game Hog Hunting Association that lists Hogdog fighting in a pen, which is illegal in all of our states. And why would someone want him to try to train a hogdog, when he can not do basic training properly.
Dogs he has sold often have genetic problems, and, or are sick.
What is Winston's actual dog experience? Just made up stories. He often borrows other website information to put on his website, including history of bulldogs. No information or material can not be found on other sites. often word for word. This includes the alleged history of The Old English Bulldogs Kennel
He does have an extensive history in other matters including pleading guilty to unregistered pistol during argument with young pregnant, pleading guilty to criminal owning of a weapon and sentenced to twp years in jail, pleading guilty to animal cruelty and illegal weapon, sentenced to one year in jail and ordered not to have contact with dogs after released from jail term, among other criminal activity.
An interesting web site about him can be found at
http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=652
Hopefully the S.C. State amd NY State Attorney General will go after him now for fraud, and criminal activities. Anyone crazy enough to get a dog from him should not complain after. I learned through hard experience. (Anyone who he gets angry with he writes long rambling illiterate written alligations of them being racist. By the way, I happen to be a black female)
Dr. C
Salt Lake City,Utah,
USA
Hey I found a cute little article written by our pal, Masterofallbulls...I thought his name was Jose? Irony at its best, it looks like he is having some dog problems.
#3General Comment
Sat, October 03, 2009
Lying American Court System And Lying White People That Set Color People For A Lie Complaints - Why Do White People Lie So Much? Why Do White People Set up Color people up for a lie? Review all Lying American Court System And Lying White People That Set Color People For A Lie complaints Lying American Court System And Lying White People That Set Color People For A Lie Posted: 2009-08-31 by MasterOfAllBulls Why Do White People Lie So Much? Why Do White People Set up Color people up for a lie? Complaint Rating: Dear, To Whom it May Concern: I am Kwame j Winston it most be illegal for some lying Animal Right ISPEAKInc Morons, Lying District Attorney Denis Dillon, Lying American KKK Court System, Lying News paper writer, Lying Judge Brown, Lying Cops, Lying Town of Hempstead Animal Shelter, Lying Wantagh Animal Hospital, Lying Richard W Barry Senior Court Reporter and Lying Lawyer David L Martin to set me up an step on my life and crap on it. It must be illegal for them to get way with it and keep getting way with it. Also it must be illegal to kill dogs that they never did anything wrong. I will never stop talking about this un lawful crime you did to me and my family. The Truth really need to come out and be heard. It really hurts how your American KKK Court System is known to lie on Color Hispanic men and destroyed there life. Wow How sweet America really is? This make me hate America there evil ways. Sometime I hate being American. I tell the truth in all I do you people are known liars in this world. If I did something wrong I am man about everything I do and I man up. It is so sad that White Americans can get a way from set people up and lying on people just to get a head in life. It is also sad that White Americans people can crap on life and step on people world they will get way with it. But when Color Americans do something wrong they get the book at them. This really make me so mad how White Americans are running this country in hold. If my Father was around he will also be fighting this lie and will hate that he was in Veteran war and he was USA Military I know I would be real hateful. How can you put somebody that was in jail for having a gun in 2002 came home the end of 2004 for doing 1, half to 3 years then send him back to jail for Engage in Training Dogs to Fight wild pigs in NYC or Freeport NY. Tell me this Lying White people. How can Engage in Training Dogs to Fight wild pigs in NYC or Freeport NY? There is no wild pigs that I never had in my backyard. It must be illegal that white people can still have this lie up http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4159/NY/US/1 and there References had there links taking down because it was all a lie and all a set up on me. It must be illegal that white people can keep talking about don't want to hear the truth from the horse mouth. Real people do real things and you people are known liars, racist and love to destroyed other human life like in discredited there life because the White man lie on them. It need a change in this world. It really need to stop how you people can keep this going and going. This is how I feel if you take it the wrong way that is your problem. You need to understand your kind been doing wrong to color people for years to come and get way with it. But I will keep letting The World know how you people do other people life and crap on there world. I was and still is a Victim of this hateful crime and know body is doing d**n thing about it because and I feel like my color of my skin. It is really sad to be a American these days of time. It is also sad how life in America is not so sweet and it will never be. I been also trying to make my goals and future better but bullys always being you down. I bet your life some way and some how payback will come to all of you people that did this to me. Take it how you want to take it this is how I feel and will always feel like this. I wish that I had the old way still in me but I don't Thank God that I found him more and more. You people still have to answer to your makers soon or later. PS. How can you Engage in Training Dogs to fight wild pigs NYC and Freeport? How can they said they had video type me doing this but really don't have on? How can white cops do wrong get way with it? How can white people set up other for a lie and get way with it? How can victims always get crap on and the other people don't get crap on? I really feel like I am back in slaver and my people still trying to get free from all the evil that your kind did and still doing now. http://www.oldbulldogs.com/pdf/WhereTheWildPigsNYC5.pdf From: Kwame Winston
Dr. C
Salt Lake City,Utah,
USA
7 Acre Kennels JaNae Or Michell Archer
#4General Comment
Sat, October 03, 2009
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It is truly unfortunate that we have individuals such as Jose (MasterofallBulls?) that would attempt to discredit someone else for their own gain, furthermore it is too bad that if you google search 7 Acres kennels this "Rip off Report" is the first website found below theirs. Imagine if you wanted to advertize your service or product and someone who had no knowledge of your business constructed lies about it. Its called libel, and Jose should be ashamed of himself. He knows nothing about this Kennel, in fact he says that it is in Black Foot, Ohio? They are actually in Blackfoot, Idaho. Jose may benefit by spending more time reviewing geography while on the internet, and spending less time critiquing someone else's dogs in attempt to puff up his self made registry. He obviously has no personal knowledge of 7 acres and his statements have no credibility. I am a breeder in Utah. I do not know JaNae or Michell Archer, or have ever spoken to them. However, as a breeder not far away, I do know about their dogs and and their breeding programs. I know that they recently had puppies from the current IOBEA champion Mischeif AZ's Roscoe P. Coletrain. Puppymill? Backyard breeder? Which of those two groups are worried about breeding their animals to champion dogs? I have seen their dogs, and they are of the highest quality, I would and have currently recommended their kennel to others when I have not had puppies available. Please understand Jose's motives and do not judge this kennel from from his so called "rip off report". As far as the crediatability of the IOBEA... I don't think that even needs to be addressed. Anyone who is familiar with Bulldogges knows that the IOBEA is the most creditable and regarded registry. I have put a lot of time with Bulldogges and have never heard of the OREBA... However I just did a google search for it, It stands for "Old Red English Bulldog registry"...hmmm... Sounds like a funny made up name, also you 7 Acre Kennels Blackfoot,Idaho, U.S.A. The Truth About 7 Acre Kennels#5REBUTTAL Owner of company Sun, October 26, 2008 First of all I would like to state that I am the owner of 7 Acre Kennels and all the so called information about my breeding program posted by Jose at MasterOfAllBulls are complete lies, there is no truth to what he says at all. Jose states that we at 7 Acre Kennels are backyard breeders. This is untrue, I do not own a typical "pair" of breeding dogs to mass produce puppies. Most backyard breeders go out and buy two dogs of the same breed and then breed them together over and over again. I have never done this and never will do this. None of the breedings that have been put together at 7 Acre Kennels have ever been repeat breedings. Jose also claims that we are a puppy mill here at 7 Acre Kennels. This too is false. Infact I have only produced two litters of Olde English Bulldogges, and both litters were out of two different sires and two different dams. Explain to me how we are puppy millers when having only produced two litters total. Jose says that 7 Acre Kennels is both a Puppy Mill and a Backyard Breeder.. so which is it? He cannot make up his mind because there is no truth behind the accusations! None of my dogges are kenneled or chained, all the dogges are inside/outside pets, meaning that they come in and out as they please. All of the dogs get all the love and attention that they could possibly want, and they also are exercised regularly. Also, the IOEBA is a very respectable registry for Olde English Bulldogges and other bull related breeds. The IOEBA is the premier registry and for good reason too. They provide accurate pedigrees and registrations for their dogs. The IOEBA also puts together several conformation shows and events through out the year to help promote selective breedings and quality bred dogs. Jose is only trash talking the IOEBA because he owns a registry too and wants to divert attention from the IOEBA to his, poor quality and low grade registry. INFACT about 9 months ago Jose personally emailed me, complimenting me and my dogs and asking if I would register my dogs, pups and kennel with his registry. I guess he cannot handle rejection, because since I refused he decided to trash talk me, even though he once complimented me when he thought there was a chance I would register with him..! EVERYTHING THAT MASTER OF ALL BULLS JOSE says is untrue. He is a hypocrite to the extreme!! I have seen pictures of his dogs. Many of which are very dirty and kept behind some poor excuse of a kennel made up of hog panels. I also have seen several pictures of his dogs chained with a prong collar. Prong collars are corrective collars used only for training, to chain a dog to a prong collar puts painful pressure all around his neck, with out relief. I also see dogs of his that have screw tails or docked tails. Having docked tails is the very thing he complains me of doing, yet he practices this too! Visit YouTube and look at MasterOfAllBulls to see some of his videos he has made, they all prove what I have stated. If at anytime anybody has questions about my ethics as a breeder or my dogs, do not hesitate to email me. I am more than happy to tell you the truth!     
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