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  • Report:  #167532

Complaint Review: Autotrail Transporters - Bayville New York

Reported By:
- Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
Submitted:
Updated:

Autotrail Transporters
255 Bayville Ave Bayville, 11709 New York, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-790-7480
Web:
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I originally contracted Autotrail Transporters, Inc. in January of 2005 to transport my vehicle from Florida to New York. I was informed that in order to secure the same rate for an intended return trip I needed to make a full payment via my Credit Card for the return trip as well.

I was faxed two contracts along with Credit Card slips for my signature and faxing back into their office. It is my opinion that this practice is used due to the fact that most credit card companies will have no control over a purchase for services after 60 days. This was indeed a surprise to me and a mistake I will never make again.

When I phoned to schedule the return trip in October there was major confusion at their office regarding my invoice and I was told several times that they did not have any such invoice number. Finally I was told it was located and that my vehicle would be picked up from New York to return to Florida on October 13th.

I had scheduled the pick-up several days prior to October 13th during which I discussed my personal arrival date to Florida with their representative. The representative suggested the 13th so I would not arrive after my vehicle and thus would be subject to storage fees. The representative explained that a driver would phone me with a time of pick-up; no calls were received so I phoned their office after noon on October 13th and was informed the pick-up would take place on the 14th instead once again questioning the existence of my invoice number.

Approximately 3PM on the 14th I received a call from a driver who explained that he had just received the work order due to an administrative error and that he would be by in an hour to retrieve the vehicle. The driver indicated that the car would be placed onto a carrier the following morning and even asked a preferred placement on the carrier (top or bottom).

The driver that retrieved my vehicle arrived with a small flatbed which already had another vehicle on it so I was towed to their lot. Nothing on their web site tells you your vehicle will be towed. The driver did not note any pre-existing damage in his documentation upon my turning the vehicle over to them.

On October 17th I phoned to track my vehicle and was informed that it had not left New York but I would receive a call at the weeks end from the driver to alert me of a drop off date and time in advance.

On or about October 19th I phoned again and was told it would now be the following week. Due to continued confusion and again being questioned about the existence of my invoice number, my concern grew and I requested to speak with a manager. That's when the infamous "Greg" began his wrath and I will admit I did conduct myself in an un-professional manner and cursed "Greg".

This was however after being continually called a liar and being cursed at and spoken to in a most un-professional manner for someone wearing the title of "Operations Manager" as I attempted to explain my concerns. It was at this point that I was told my money would be refunded and that I was to retrieve my car from their yard on my own implying yet again that it had still not left New York.

Realizing the fact that they were still in procession of my vehicle which was neatly packed with clothing, important documents etc. coupled with now being back in Florida I felt that I had no choice but to apologize requesting that a friend mediate the remainder of our term.

I was unavailable to retrieve my vehicle so I made arrangements for a friend to retrieve it for me since I did not want to incur the storage fees with no grace period after 24 hour notification. This transaction took place on October 26th. When I returned to my vehicle on October 28th I noticed the damage.

I also noticed in my new shipping documentation relating this final portion of our agreement clear indications of existing damage. The damage was noted by "We Care Auto" (the Motor Carrier contracted to retrieved and deliver the car by Autotrail Transports) which means from what I can see that the damage occurred while in Autotrails possession after turning the car over to them and prior to retrieval for delivery from "We Care Auto"!

I notified my Credit Card Company and followed with a written notification to Autotrail Transporters, Inc. alerting them of the situation. I also notified "We Care Auto" who have been beyond professional regarding this issue.

Upon "Greg's" receipt of the certified letter sent October 31st (signed for by Gregory Sclafani) to insure their receipt and knowledge of the situation the RUDE & EXTREMELY UN-PROFESSIONAL creep for lack of better words telephoned and began to make threats.

Statements such as I had been playing games from the beginning and he was tired of my s**t were followed by a threat of repossessing my vehicle claiming I had violated Federal Law as well as ICC Law by placing the return trip charge in dispute with my Credit Card Company.

Autotrail Transporters, Inc. had been fully paid for both transactions due to the initial charge being processed well over 60 days prior to my dispute and therefore had no legal right to make such a threat. I as a consumer have a right to dispute charges and my concern is that this behavior may truly up-set and intimidate others with his loud and crude tactics.

After filing a complaint with "The Fair Business Association of America" ; who they claim to be proud members of as displayed on their web site, I received yet another phone call from who I believe to be "Greg" (1st call I answered and upon telling me he was with Autotrail I immediately hung-up since I was not going to deal directly any longer with these fools) needless to say another called followed still with a phone number blocked threatening to file suit for Liable and Slander and suing me "Big Time".

Further threat of contact with the DA's office to inform them that I made a threat upon his life? In all fairness, he could be confusing me with another dissatisfied customer which is easily understandable due to the overwhelming amounts of consumers reporting negative experiences regarding Autotrail Transporters.

"Greg" also states the aforementioned dribble along with a continued threat of repossessing my vehicle and suing me for everything I'm worth in a response he sent to "The Fair Business Association of America" attempting to discredit me and my complaint which he sent via e-mail and copied me on.

"Greg" is a total and complete fool (stronger verbiage would be more appropriate but fool will suffice) and beside requiring lessons in "Customer Service", perhaps he should study some law regarding "Liable & Slander" as well.

Needless to say I commissioned a web site (link deleted - see below) and since doing so I have been contacted by their attorney threaten Federal Trademark violations as demanding I take down the web site.

Brian

Fort Lauderdale, Florida
U.S.A.

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3 Updates & Rebuttals

Amy

Red Wing,
Minnesota,
U.S.A.
This is not regular LTL freight.

#2Consumer Suggestion

Sat, January 14, 2006

You are right, file a claim against their bond but good luck. I was in the process of doing that when we hauled a car for them and they never paid, but their bond gets hit so many times that their bonding company is just as rude as they are. My husband threatened to create a black ball listing on-line and put his name at the top of the list if he didn't pay us. He did the next day. Also, the bonding company will probably give you a run around about how you signed their contract, etc. Also another problem with getting money from companies who's bond is always being hit is that it runs out. They are only required to have a $10,000 bond. (Carrier's are NOT required to have a bond only brokers are; we were a carrier.) What happens when your claim exceeds that limit? You are just SOL, that's what. Greg should be in prison. I know of one other broker who was running the same scam out of Northern California and that's just where he went. I bet Greg's turn will be soon since I found on-line one of his local news stations has already done a little story on the scam he has going. I bet it's not long before it's picked up nationally or some local governmental agency will step up and shut him down to avoid public scrutiny. I agree that you should also complain to the DOT as well as FMCSA. The following information was obtained from their web site and is public record: Trust Fund: (They have this because their Bond was cancelled in June of 2005) 1st Security Financial Corp. Attn: G. Brice Parks, President 3929 Noe Bixby Road Columbus, OH 43232 Phone #: 614-834-8141 $10,000 Trust Fund active as of 6/22/05 Auto Trail Transporters is only their DBA name their official name is V & C Warehouse & Distribution, Inc. Their US DOT Number is 834780 Their MC Number is MC252857 You will need all of this information to complain to any governmental agencies. I really hope this helps you or any other unsuspecting person Greg may take advantage of next (including honest hard working truck drivers).


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
You just need to file a claim against this jerks bond.

#3Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 11, 2006

Brian, here's an easy solution Whether this business is a carrier or just a broker means nothing. Any broker or carrier providing transportation of frieght is licensed [DOT#/MC#] and is BONDED. You just need to file a claim against this jerks bond. Go to www fmcsa com and do a search for this "carrier". You can also file a complaint with the FMCSA and with the state they operate out of. Filing on the bond is quick and easy. I used to be an independent carrier and have dealt with many unethical "brokers" posing as carriers. That truck with the trailer you mentioned was some hot shot driver getting a backhaul. That explains the delay. They had to find someone to move it cheap enough. It is hard to move LTL freight out of NY. Good luck!


Linda

Hempstead,
New York,
U.S.A.
Autotrail is a Broker but never come out and say it

#4UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, January 11, 2006

Autotrail basically never has your car, thats why they get away with everything to smoothly, they broker out carriers to pick upo your vehicle so basically you can never have them in fault, autotrail will actually try and help you and try to pull u on their side when its actually their fault for anything happening to your car because of who they gave it to! They will never find anyone to ship your car, they place your ad on a website and wait for carriers to call them for the *load*. The only time they ever really ry to find someone to pick up your car is if your a Regular Customer, Otherwise forget it! Also, When you cann to trace it, all the employees do is ask Greg! And he tells them what to say. They arent even Computerized, Your order is thrown into a pile.. Dont use them again!

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