Complaint Review: Best Finance - EcoQuest International - Mosheim Tennessee

I was a distributor with Ecoquest{ScamQuest}in 2004-06.My sales manager was Charlie Gruber.This guy is nothing but a sweet talking con artist.To make a long story short,this guy brainwashed me into maxing out my credit cards and going into debt so much that Im Still trying to get out of debt from his brainwashing scam tactics he uses on good,honest,hard working people.This guy is a professional liar and he will sweet talk you like you have never seen before.I highly suggest to stay away from this guy if he isnt in jail by now.

I disagree that Best Finance is a ripoff. You are confusing your lack of training by a sponsor with a service by a finance company. You also mentioned the machines don't sell and don't do much. Tell that to the thousands of Katrina victims that moved back to their homes because the Red Cross used them. I would hate to see people not take advantage of the advanced technology utilized in these machines, because you didn't want to pay back a company that doled out over $2000 to you. If you had started a conventional business and applied for a bank loan, I doubt you would have been able to get much inventory. This company offers a way to start a business at a fraction of the cost of other franchises, stores, or online stores. Not only are you able to borrow, but so are your clients. No one likes to pay interest or service fees, but there was some reason you were looking to get ahead. There is a lot of training for those who really want to start a BUSINESS. Sounds like you really don't know what that involves for starting ANY business. Do more research on start up for any online business, you'll find Ecoquest is a step above the rest.

I disagree that Best Finance is a ripoff. You are confusing your lack of training by a sponsor with a service by a finance company. You also mentioned the machines don't sell and don't do much. Tell that to the thousands of Katrina victims that moved back to their homes because the Red Cross used them. I would hate to see people not take advantage of the advanced technology utilized in these machines, because you didn't want to pay back a company that doled out over $2000 to you. If you had started a conventional business and applied for a bank loan, I doubt you would have been able to get much inventory. This company offers a way to start a business at a fraction of the cost of other franchises, stores, or online stores. Not only are you able to borrow, but so are your clients. No one likes to pay interest or service fees, but there was some reason you were looking to get ahead. There is a lot of training for those who really want to start a BUSINESS. Sounds like you really don't know what that involves for starting ANY business. Do more research on start up for any online business, you'll find Ecoquest is a step above the rest.

I disagree that Best Finance is a ripoff. You are confusing your lack of training by a sponsor with a service by a finance company. You also mentioned the machines don't sell and don't do much. Tell that to the thousands of Katrina victims that moved back to their homes because the Red Cross used them. I would hate to see people not take advantage of the advanced technology utilized in these machines, because you didn't want to pay back a company that doled out over $2000 to you. If you had started a conventional business and applied for a bank loan, I doubt you would have been able to get much inventory. This company offers a way to start a business at a fraction of the cost of other franchises, stores, or online stores. Not only are you able to borrow, but so are your clients. No one likes to pay interest or service fees, but there was some reason you were looking to get ahead. There is a lot of training for those who really want to start a BUSINESS. Sounds like you really don't know what that involves for starting ANY business. Do more research on start up for any online business, you'll find Ecoquest is a step above the rest.

I am a EcoQuest dealer and have been for alitte more then a year. I do not understand your comment about the cost ($680) of the websites. I have just one that costs me $12.95 a month, which helps me with ordring and keeping track of business things. The only other website is the Creating Wealth From Home website, which is for you to help introduce the business to other people. This site costs $99 for the first month and setup of the site, after that it is $49.95. All these websites are an option and are there to make things easier to manage your business. As a business owner I know you can get started with the the Laundry Pure. I know many people that run their business with the Laundry Pure and do well doing so. The Fresh Air is the companies flagship and that is why we lead with that product. But like with many things, it is your business, you can run it the way you see best. EcoQuest is a great company with many great products. All their products revolve around healthy livng technologies, from their air products, water products, and even their nutritional products. You can focus on just one of the products or all. As far as I know the only water purifiers EcoQuest handles now are the ones for your home. These are the Living Water II, and III, they also have a Living Water Ultra, which looks simular to the old style water cooler. There is a floor model and a tabletop model, they both have a filter in them which is housed in a crock that keep the water cool. There is the Spring Hose model, which purifies the water for your whole house. I do hope this information will help you succede in your business.

...an opportunity to share with my friends, whom I love dearly. I went to a site sponsored by my church (SDA) and requested a prayer. I was experiencing female problems and was scared, stressed and hoped a prayer request would help all I was going through. I basically said I had been searching without avail for 12 years for an online opportunity (Job or Real Business) to make money from my computer at home. I asked for guidance and abundance to come my way so I could share it with all those I love. God knows my desires and me. As a single mother of two wonderful children and a bunch of animals, I am needed at home. I try to help anyone I can by way of natural, homeopathic, herbal or food remedies. The Lord provided plants for our health as well as love toward and from others to heal. Therefore, I reached out for help I could not gain alone. Financially, I am at the toughest point I have been in over 9 years. I do not like to admit this, but I blame our Nation's President Bush for the failing economy and his personal desires for war. Nonetheless, the extra income has disappeared for most Americans to the point that my in-home marketing business I have unfulfilling ran for 9 years has no fuel since my products are not life sustaining. After having to swallow what pride I have and stop denying my current situation, I made a call to seek assistance for disconnect notices and ideas on how to feed my two children. I was told to go to a free food pantry. I was extremely grateful, but cried most of the day due to shame, weakness and depression. Upon returning from the food pantry, I had an email. It came from a Christian site. I was skeptical since targets are set on single mothers too, but remembering the prayer request, I decided to have faith my Lord would provide something for me. I still want to believe this was different and an answer to my prayer. I began looking at the information and saw a number at the bottom of one of the pages. I noticed it was 10:20 p.m. CST my time, but it was a Friday so I decided to dial and take my chances. I expected to get a recording, but to my surprise a man answered. He sounded confused and I thought I had a wrong number. As I was getting ready to hang up, he stopped me and explained he just got his site up and didn't know his home office number was listed on it. Odd, I thought, but still wanted to give the opportunity a chance. This man was so kind and warm. He actually seemed to care about what I was experiencing and did not offer me the moon, but he did pray for me (which made me a little leery, but grateful). He said he wanted to help me with my financial problems. He directed me to the VIP area and I looked at every product offered there. The site seemed very professional and well organized (well evolved). It promised to help people with serious problems and not harm them at all. I did not fully understand the technology and must have overlooked the part about ozone being the predominant odor emitted. The technology was presented to be a near natural method to help with certain conditions. My first thought was of a lady I know and respect deeply who was suffering from walking phenomena and so was her husband. She has asthma, hay fever and other breathing conditions. She is not at all overweight and takes really good care of her conditions and stated she has tried ozone purifiers in the past and they do not work for her. So now I have a problem. I did see ozone was used, but only in part. I understood these other factors (radio wave-like technology, UVC light helps kill airborne germs as they pass through the unit, carbon impregnated lint screen to keep lint and large dust particles from passing through the unit) as being the difference from other ozone purification systems. I am not someone who can take the ozone smell or affects either and am very sensitive to all odors, even as a smoker. Now that it arrived today and I tried it, I am pretty sure it is not something I would want running all the time. Perhaps when odors are too much and the windows can not be opened, but for short periods of time. I need a product that will remove dust and particles from the air. So now my heart feels like it is breaking again. Don't get me wrong, I haven't entirely given up on EcoQuest and all the sleep I sacrificed to get through the training material or the hype I have passed along to some friends I thought could benefit from the product and business opportunity. I just feel I need to focus on what will work for me. When I first saw the marketing system and products it seemed so logical to me and like something real. I was absolutely amazed by the Laundry Pure and wanted to do the trail test with it, but was steered toward the Fresh Air machine. I think the Laundry Pure and small travel water purifier would be my lines of interest and areas I would excel. But I won't know for sure unless I try them. I signed up as business owner last week, 1/30/08, and am now told I can not do trail runs on products now. He said something like now you are signed up and it doesn't work like that. Doesn't that sound like a door closed to you too? I signed up as a business owner at the lowest possible amount. I got a machine for wholesale on the ez 4. I just signed up for the 5 web sites today. These total about $680 so far. I am beginning to wonder what I am doing or where this is going at this point. Keep in mind I can't pay for food or utilities and was unable to pay my mortgage this month, yet I was convinced this could be the answer to my prayers. My upline said all things are possible through God, which I believe, but I was not able to receive the products I requested and felt strongly about selling. Now you may be thinking I am gullible, perhaps, but at some point I have to have faith again. I decided I would prudently place faith in this man whom answered his phone and talked to me at 11:30 p.m. EST as well as took the time to pray for me when I was weak. I PRAY that I am not PREY, yet don't know just yet. I admit I feel desperate about my financial situation and would welcome a true solution to my problem. Perhaps the pains in my stomach would stop as well as the related problems I have been experiencing. This is what I do know and the reason for this letter. I don't like the overpowering ozone smell and the effects. At this point I have a sore throat, headache, a bit dizzy and some stomach upset. These are the same effects I have gotten off other ozone producing purifiers in the past. I am interested in the Pure Laundry and want to market it. I am shutdown when I bring it up. Isn't this product as good a profit for EcoQuest as the FreshAir system? Or is it really about bringing in those 3 success pack owners before 30 days are up? If it is that way, then I will try to get those Success Pack sales, but I want to focus on Laundry Pure, which I believe is a more healthful product for me to present. I know the health risks and concerns as a direct result of too much manufactured ozone exposure and would never be comfortable making money at the risk of someone else's health. Anyone with insight or an opinion, please chime in. I would also be interested in seeing the travel along water purifier that has been said to be able to purify any mud hole and turn it into healthy consumable water. This would be great to offer missionaries within our church or conscientious mothers. What a great lifesaver that product could be! Does it cut me out since I am not an advocate of the purifiers? Will I be dropped to the bottom of the priority pile if I don't duplicate the expectations of my team in reference to retailing the purifiers? I am sure some people would get a benefit from it, but I can't give a testimonial from my current perspective. I hope to hear some hope filled words or gain further knowledge. Thank you for reading my post.

After reviewing over many of the posts that have been entered on here concerning EcoQuest and Best Finance I decided to let everyone know about my experiences. I myself started out doing a lot of research about the company practices and background. After such research I felt confident enough to agree to become a dealer (at the time I only paid $25). Being an educated individual I asked them why I couldn't become a dealer for the $25 and then buy the unit using my dealer discount (which would have made the amount $479+$25=$504 instead of paying for the unit and THEN becoming a dealer which made it $780 [after taxes and shipping]+$25=$805). However, I was 'told' that this wasn't really an option. The person I was working with didn't outrightly say that it was not an option but they kept stating things that made it seem that way. Once my husband and I had our unit we did notice that it worked quite well with his allergies. He doesn't have as much congestion and doesn't breathe as heavily at night. He even says that he can tell the difference at work when not around the unit because his nose becomes congested again and his allergy syptoms return. After becoming dealers my uplines constantly were trying to get me to buy the higher priced success packs, which I told them that I did not want to do at that time. I wanted to be the cautious and intelligent individual by letting others test my own unit (which should not have been a problem because mine was brand new). I had a few people test it out for about a week and none wanted to buy. All but one stating that it DID work (the one that didn't had numerous allergy problems and sensitivities and said that the smell gave her a headache). After telling my 'uplines' about the situation and how she didn't want to buy it they sent me an email alluding to the fact that I did something wrong. I wrote them back to give them a play-by-play of everything that I had said and did, in order to prove to them that I had done EVERYTHING that was recommended, it was just that she was very sensitive to the unit. After a few days I recieved a call from my upline's husband, and partner, in which he left a message stating that he would like to conference with me so that he could help me go through the process again in order to pinpoint what might have gone wrong. At this point I was a little frustrated in the fact that they were still trying to make it seem as though it was my failure. I called back and told them that it was nothing that I did or did not do since I had read through EVERY piece of material given to me and had gone about setting up the unit in the woman's home just as I was instructed to do. I told them again that it was simply that she was overly sensitive and therefore the unit gave her a headache. I was not going to try and pressure her into buying a unit that she was not fully interested in. This is the point at which telephone converstions and personal emails on their part then ceased and now I merely get mass notices about meetings or other informational events going on sent to my email from them. So, for the strong proponents of this business, I am not calling anyone out or trying to downplay the effectiveness of such a product. I simply believe that I have been taken advantage of by my own upline. After many attempts to get me to buy a success pack I believe they realized that I was not going to buy anything more until I knew that I could at least sell the one unit I already had. I believe that since they could not convince me to buy more of the products before testing the waters with my own unit they quit calling me because to them I was not worth their time since I was not making them any more profit. In short, I do believe that the unit works with allergies (I myself do not have any but my husband does). However, the 'upline' I had to work with I felt simply wanted to make money off of me. But that is only a couple of people and not the whole company. Other uplines may be more considerate of others and their opinions on how and when to finance things. I think that is where the company has been very smart (whether or not they intended on this). EcoQuest can write all blame off of themselves and direct it at the independent dealers, which in the end it is the dealer who controls their portion of the business. I do hope that others have gotten a better feeling for the company and have had 'uplines' who are truly concerned about their downlines' business building instead of making money for themselves at the expense of their 'trainees'. Please forgive me for such a lengthy post, but I felt the need to let everyone know that I do not soley blame the EcoQuest company, for it is my upline that has treated me in such a way. I do believe that the company should hire employees to track each of their dealers' activities to make sure that they are conducting their business as the company would like them to. This in itself would be a daunting task but it would alleviate any negative views of the company.

I work with another MLM, and I am here to say that not all MLMs are the same. I was with EcoQuest for over six years and the only real problem I had with them was their price. There are air purification companies that sell machines with the same specs as theirs for half the price. The dealers are making a decent profit too! Sometimes the best way to sell a product is the try before you buy approach. It is really the only way to sell air purifiers if you are ethical. As you might imagine, not every technology works for every persons. That is why the try before you buy is the best way to sell them! A traditional retailer would seldom use this method. Could you get a car dealer to loan you a car for a week? Some might but they would be rare. Is WalMart going to allow you to try a microwave for 3-7 days before you decide to buy. No way! Think about it, sometimes MLM is the best way to sell a product.

I would like to thank all comments in this report. My husband and I have read almost every one. We have come to this conclusion. As God fearing people we would NEVER get involved with a company using blasphemy!! Eco Quest or what ever the name is saying "Christian Values" After EVERYTHING I have read from supposed employees obviously NOT ONE of you are God fearing people!! As we DO NOT speak to other or treat others the way that the comments have went. Everyone on Earth is entitled to their own opinion its part of the Constitution. I got disgusted by reading all of this. ALL that were comparing this company to McDonalds GET REAL! That is like comparing apples(EQ) to grapefruits(McD) Also one last thing I am soooooooo thankful I checked this site before I allowed my husband to take food from my SIX children. THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU SINCE EVERY COMMENT WE READ MADE OUR MINDS UP FOR US

These disputes back and forth remind me of an online Jerry Springer episode. It is a he said/she said blog that could go on forever. In the courts Opinions don't count. So those who have an opinion-you dont count. What about all the evidence that proves that EcoQuest is a true business. Not everyone was cut out to own a restaruant, or a bank, or car dealership. Same goes with EcoQuest. But there is proof by testing, studies, and reports that show that EcoQuest is number one in many cateragories. Those who base their decision to decline the EcoQuest opportunity from this site are only cheating themselves, unless of course they are true to themsleves stating they are not equiped to handle a home business. If someone told you chocolate tastes bad based off the opinion of a person who hated chocolate would you never taste it, when studies show chocolate infact is very tasty..mmmm. Bottom Line, view the reports here for entertainment. The business owners do a great job bringing the facts, but look elsewhere also for info. The internet is nice, but has a lot of misleading info and garbage on it. By the way, to become a distributor with EQ it is only $25. With that you get an info kit *shipping via ups is included in that cost* and if anything else, you are entitled to purchase products at dealer pricing-like Sam's club where you pay an annual fee to get the products at cheaper costs. With EQ you have the added bonus of selling for a profit. And to those who say that it is a large mark-up from wholesale to msrp...no it isn't. we are earning our profits for the advertising we do. Like if you buy a pair of Nike shoes. The Nike factory has the shoe at wholesale cost and sells it to the shoe store who has to advertise and sell it to the consumer. Of course they are going to mark up the shoe to cover the advertising costs. Last I looked professional atheletes make good money for those 15 seconds. Which comes back to you when you buy a pair of shoes. EQ cuts out the middle man, and we do the advertising, and get to keep all the profit.

I have sat here nodding in agreement with many of the comments made by those that say they were mislead by the sales pitch to become a salesperson for EcoQuest and then found themselves stuck with a chunk of money invested in over priced machines. It is sad to see so many of this company's reps here slamming those that have had bad experiences. You could have chosen the high road instead and offered some helping hands. Spewing out insults is not making a good case for your positions, instead it only makes the company look worse. As for those of you that say you are making lots of money and perks, it just makes me think of all the people you have conned into buying more "success packs." Yikes. I bought my success pack in Oct. of 2005. It was the usual pitch...I was out of town and didn't have the immediate luxury of checking them out on the Internet, but was assured there was no need. "It will all be good reviews. We are a solid company with a built in support system that will guarantee your success if you use it." As soon as I recieved the products I set about using them and trying them out. Those that liked them said they were great, but didn't like the great price, so declined to buy. I took them to some of the top selling air purifier distributors in my area to see what they thought. Neither of them would touch the machines due to the bad rep the company has with past lawsuits under the previous name Alpine. I still felt it was a good product, but just didn't find a market for them. I ended up selling two machines to help offset the costs I had incurred with my initial investment, but order no more. I installed the Living Water II in my own home and really liked it until it sprung a leak and flooded my kitchen. It seems that the lower seals went out spontaneously. I still haven't got that fixed and am not sure if I trust it to not do the same thing again. I used the Fresh Air To Go machine and loved it until it just quit working a few days after the 1 year warrantee. I love my Fresh Air II machine, but now it spontaneously shuts itself on and off. It is still under warrantee, but I do have to pay the shipping...and shipping insurance so that I don't get the old "product damaged in shipping" line. Where am I going with this? Well, here is the kicker: One of the two Fresh Air machines I sold was to a friend of mine. She called a few days ago and said that her machine keeps shutting itself on and off. I told her to bring it over so that I could clean it up for her thinking the there was maybe a ton of dust in the fan and that hopefully that was the same problem I was having. I took the back off and discovered that the whole thing had come close to burning up! There was soot everywhere and full of little pieces of burnt lint. The inside of the back filter was melted and smelled just like some of the items that had come out of my mother's house after she had had a house fire. I am so thankful that this unit did not end up burning down my friend's house! From the looks of things it had come darn close. Now I know that many of you EcoQuest cheerleaders are going to do your company sis boom baa thing and frankly, I don't want to hear it. Your propaganda is falling on deaf ears, so just knock off your sputterings of personal responsibility, liability, and general name calling. Did this friend keep the machine properly cleaned and maintained? No, she didn't. Did I explain to her how to care for it properly when I sold it to her? Yes, I did. Would I feel anything less like a complete *** if I had done my job, she hadn't listened, and her house burned down? No, I wouldn't. She is a busy mother of two and a wife of a man that depends on her a lot. Yes she should have kept it cleaner, but more to the point she bought the machine from me because she trusted me and depended on my recommendation. I did call the company and spent three hours on the phone today getting the run around. The customer and technical support lines are unfortunately...as has been reported on this website, staffed with people that are not very helpful. (I'm trying to keep it clean here.) I had to keep on refraising questions and being quite forward with my tone before I got even the tiniest bits of information, but still nothing like the straight answers I was looking for. For instance: How often does this type of problem occur? Has the company discovered the cause? What is the fix, if any? These all seemed like relevant questions, but the only response was to send it in. So now what? Do I tell my friend what I found inside the machine and look like the monster that nearly caused her house to burn down? I know...she should have cleaned it, but that seems small now next to the fact the machine was right outside her children's bedroom doors. It seems that the shutting on and off problem is called "surging" by the company. After hours of hounding people from the company I found this out and that it means the "board" needs to be replaced. Well, if two out of three of the Fresh Air machines I purchased are doing this and one was ignored while the other was perfectly maintained, I doubt it has to do with maintenance and upkeep. Now I must pay, once again, to get the machines back up in working order...yes it is "just" the shipping and insurance and packing materials and my time on the phone figuring this all out and my time getting them packed up and my time taking them in to be shipped and my time explaining things to my friend and the down time of no purchased product in the home, and, and, and. Oh Boger! I'm rapidly getting fed up with even suggesting that the machine is worthwhile. I gave up on the company long ago after I saw how quickly most reps are forgotten by their upline hungry managers. Not all of them may be this way, but I am seeing a growing trend. I think that Donald has made some very valid point and agree with him completely. His wife's initial experiance was similar to mine. I was lucky and could afford the money lost, but not everyone is. Now I see that it will cost me more than just the money. Can I live with costing a family a home, or worse yet, their lives? You folks that want to climb on board here and send in all those nasty blaming and finger pointing emails can just stuff it. There is nothing you can say to change the minds of those of us that have been burned first hand. What are you going to say to those that might literally get burned? "You are a loser."? I wonder how you are going to name call and blame your way out of this one.

My response is not about the equipment, but the management of the Company. My wife was talked into starting up an Eco-Quest line. The program was portrayed as an MLM primarilly. The 'hook' her co-worker used was a promotion that gives you a car when you get 5 downlines yourself. While the product was demonstrated and discussed, the majority of the discussion revolved around helping my wife convince 5 of her friends to join as her follow-ons (a sure way to ruin friendships BTW). So my wife gets caught with the hook of a car without thinking that her full time job plus 2 kids (2 years old and 6 months old) leaves her little free time as it is. After 2 weeks she finally saw the light and decided to send everything back and not take this on. In the meantime a Company called "Best Investments" had already started taking money from her bank account (Bank of America). Not knowing who "Best Investment" (BI) was we put a stop on the transactions. Then we recieved a refund check from "Best Finance" (and the light bulb goes off in my head). We contacted BoA about BI and get a negative response as far as BoA knowing anything about the company. Of note; the Best Finance check was a BoA draft! After being contacted by a "Best Finance" rep, we were working out the details regarding the 'stop' on the funds and the returned check. The Rep flat out stated that BI was "and older name of the company" and that they were having issues with BoA getting the Company name changed. This naturally raises red-flags about why a Company would continue a fiduciary trust with an organization that won't even change the Companies name when requested. A second red-flag going up due to BoAs unfamiliarity with "Best Investment". The rep also stated that the 'stop' was placed on the second installment, so we had to have known who BI was. Our statement (strait from Best Finance) only shows a single $345 transaction (the one the stop was issued), so their written records directly contradict what the Company Representative said. So now "Best Finance" wants the $345 portion from the 'stop' refunded. That would be fine, excpet that the refund we recieved does not cover that transaction (only the original payment). In additional Best finance wants extra fees for putting the stop on in the first place. I said that was BS since the stop was incurred due to an unknown 3rd party suddenly making a withdrawl. And so here we are. All in all I found EcoQuest/Best Finance/Best Investment to be substandard when it comes to fiduciary matters. They use a 3rd party name to withdrawl money from accounts, then act like the injured party when they get called on it. Regardless of the product, the company IS an MLM setup, and like all MLMs can only survive by getting more people as distributors. I understand why they are a private company. If they were a publicly traded company and operated in this manner, the SEC would shut them down in a heatbeat. So, regardless of your opinion on the product itself, be warned that the EcoQuest/Best whatever Company has questionable bussiness practices; not to mention that I was out and out lied to by a Rep.

All of this hype about becoming a dealer and getting RIPPED off. You should know by now that there is no get rich quick scheme. Especially when you have to rely on others for your downline growth and profitability. So anyone who CHOOSES to get into the business should do so at their own peril. No business is without downfalls. I own two businesses (not Ecoquest) and can tell you that for a fact. Now about the product. I own two of the ecoquest clean air machines. So far I have had the same problem with one of the machines. It is a inconvenient to have to find a box to mail this machine back. The first time my dealer arranged that for me. When he found out that I wasnt going to purchase more or refer him to new folks,he just referred me to the company the next time (the same problem with the machine). Great customer relations. You have to purchase replacement filters and parts from the company or I assume the dealer. The Price is set by both I am sure. I do like the machines though. even though they seem to have some QUALITY and Consumer relations issues. After shipping the product off you have to wait several weeks to get the product back. NOT GOOD

EVEN THOUGH I'M AN ECOQUEST DEALER, I HAVE NOT WORKED THE BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF SELLING ALL THE ITEMS IN THE FIRST AND ONLY SUCCESS PACK I PURCHASED. THEY WERE NOT $600 EA. THE FRESH AIR UNITS DID EXACTLY WHAT ECOQUEST SAID THEY WOULD DO. YES THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. SO YOU DO NOT SELL THEM TO PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD THEM. HELLO? THEY CAN BE DIFFICULT TO SELL, BUT DOESN'T ONE THINK THAT THEY NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT MARKETING? IT'S A BUSINESS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! YOU WANT THE COMPANY TO HOLD YOUR HAND? WHERE'S YOUR INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY? WHY WOULD YOU BLAME ECOQUEST FOR YOUR FAILURES. I WENT TO TENNESEE AND CHECKED THE COMPANY OUT. I LOVED THEM. THIS COMPANY WAS TOP CLASS ALL THE WAY EXCEPT FOR THEIR BREAKOUT TRAINING WHICH WAS VERY INSUFFICENT TIME WISE. OTHER THAN THAT ECOQUEST WAS FIRST CLASS IN THEIR WELCOME. I RESEARCHED EVERYTHING TINY THING I COULD FIND ABOUT THIS COMPANY BEFORE GOING TO TENNESEE AND USING THE BENJAMIN FRANKLIN RULE AND SCALE, THERE WERE FAR MORE POSITIVES THEN NEGATIVES. EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NOT MADE ANY SIGNIFICANT MONEY WITH THIS COMPANY, THATS ON ME. NOT ECOQUEST. I AM A STRONG BELIEVER IN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. ECOQUEST IS NOT YOUR MOMMY. THANK YOU.

Paul, I don't know where you came up with Ecoquest is a get rich quick scheme. It is a business plan to achieve a business that will some day work for you and help you to achieve financial freedom. Provided that you treat it like a real business and be dedicated and work hard to achieve your goals. Managers do average $7k a month and drive bonus cars paid for by Ecoquest, but it wasn't quick. My manager does and he has only been with Ecoquest for a little over 2 yrs. I have been only in it for 3 months only a month, only 2 months of which I was really working it. I have made a little over 5K in that time but I work for it and that is exactly what I was told in the beginning. We were rated the number one home base business opportunity twice and were rated the best compensation plan for the last four years. I have a little over 10,000pv towards my bonus car which means I need 40,000 more within the next 5 months and I will do that. Just because it was that pastors financial salvation doen't mean it is fake. Tom Ross is a baptist preacher in Arkansas and makes over $10k a month and I think he has been doing it for 5-6 yrs and he doesn't have to decieve anyone, the products are just that good, but I have never seen a unit climb out of the box and jump on the phone and find it's own placement. So either you train and learn and do it or you give up, fail , and then post a ripoff report when you weren't ripped off at all...infact most of the people on here failed the company, and themselves...not the other way around, they are just looking for people to blame. I was a heroin addict who came to Christ in jail and i'll tell you something about Ecoquest, they didn't judge me! They actually went out of their way to help me because of that. This really is a great company and they talk a lot about keeping Christ first and helping people succeed above making money. Most of the people posting here have no idea what they are talking about and a few just had a bad upline and in that case it is sad, but not Ecoquests fault, it is the individual dealers who failed to help the person or signed up someone who really isn't right for this company. So anyway I got denied financing on 3 units because my credit was bad, then I got a cosigner and they still said no. So my MGR wrote them a letter and told them about my drug use and my past and told them that he wouldn't loan me a shovel at 1st glance at my record but he told them how i was working hard to do good and they came back and upgraded me to a success pack which is 5 units and told me not to screw up. Needless to say I sold them all and paid it off early and now they finance me no money down whenever I ask. It really is a great group of people. The Groups within the company are really like family I don't know how any of you can say bad things about them, they have been amazing to me and I really didn't deserve it. Sounds kinda like the good Christian thing to do, not keep me attached to my past. I feel bad for any of you who believe the negative stuff about EQ. They are registered with the Better Business Bureau and have been in good standing since 03. So apparently these claims weren't considered legit or else there wouldn't be a torch next to our name!

I began research on this after I got a letter from Pastor Dan Gibson. Complete with a lovely picture of his large family, he spins a tale of financial salvation after years of hardship. It purports to seek out not just Christian men and women to take part in this, but those who are in the ministry. No details though, even if all that sounded very good. Thanks to the internet, I was able to peel back the onion layer by layer. Now, after having fully read all the posts, pro's and con's, I have my mind firmly made up. I would stay as far away as possible from this get-rich scheme. There is no free lunch, and many victims in here have unfortunately learned that the hard way. What is the saddest part is how someone like Dan Gibson, supposedly a man of cloth, would use Christian values to entice people into the scheme. If I were to judge (which I'm not), that's unforgiveable.

I began research on this after I got a letter from Pastor Dan Gibson. Complete with a lovely picture of his large family, he spins a tale of financial salvation after years of hardship. It purports to seek out not just Christian men and women to take part in this, but those who are in the ministry. No details though, even if all that sounded very good. Thanks to the internet, I was able to peel back the onion layer by layer. Now, after having fully read all the posts, pro's and con's, I have my mind firmly made up. I would stay as far away as possible from this get-rich scheme. There is no free lunch, and many victims in here have unfortunately learned that the hard way. What is the saddest part is how someone like Dan Gibson, supposedly a man of cloth, would use Christian values to entice people into the scheme. If I were to judge (which I'm not), that's unforgiveable.

I began research on this after I got a letter from Pastor Dan Gibson. Complete with a lovely picture of his large family, he spins a tale of financial salvation after years of hardship. It purports to seek out not just Christian men and women to take part in this, but those who are in the ministry. No details though, even if all that sounded very good. Thanks to the internet, I was able to peel back the onion layer by layer. Now, after having fully read all the posts, pro's and con's, I have my mind firmly made up. I would stay as far away as possible from this get-rich scheme. There is no free lunch, and many victims in here have unfortunately learned that the hard way. What is the saddest part is how someone like Dan Gibson, supposedly a man of cloth, would use Christian values to entice people into the scheme. If I were to judge (which I'm not), that's unforgiveable.

I began research on this after I got a letter from Pastor Dan Gibson. Complete with a lovely picture of his large family, he spins a tale of financial salvation after years of hardship. It purports to seek out not just Christian men and women to take part in this, but those who are in the ministry. No details though, even if all that sounded very good. Thanks to the internet, I was able to peel back the onion layer by layer. Now, after having fully read all the posts, pro's and con's, I have my mind firmly made up. I would stay as far away as possible from this get-rich scheme. There is no free lunch, and many victims in here have unfortunately learned that the hard way. What is the saddest part is how someone like Dan Gibson, supposedly a man of cloth, would use Christian values to entice people into the scheme. If I were to judge (which I'm not), that's unforgiveable.

To the dealer who bought the master pack: Go to the ecoquest mac site and buy the training cd's for $3. and listen to them over and over. Geting the placement is half of it but overcoming objections is the other. I am an ex junkie and in my first 6 weeks I sold 8 Fresh Airs and an Eagle 5000. Don't give up, listen to training calls and you will make it. To the clowns who post the ozone and FTC court case. Alpine was the defendant not Ecoquest, though EQ was sited as not to say what Alpine was ordered not to. We have research to prove that the ozone levels remain safe so don't post useless ozone nonsense that was written on testing of products not made by our company. That is just dishonest. Secondly RCI is the core of our system, not ozone. Though ozone is involved, it's major function is when used on "away Mode" which is when the screen says "please vacate area" What could that mean? I love mine! I sold my unit for a bit cuz the demand was grater then the supply and 3-5 days later mold was growing in my bathroom. and people wonder why i sell them. I am a mold inspector and they are amazing which is why I tracked down a rep and signed up. Oh and since these clowns are tring to make us all look like selfish jerks, my mgr just posted a 10K sale he made at the bottom of my dl which is bring 4 of us to assoc. MGR! Gee that was selfish of him to give up a grand so his whole group could profit! (sarchastic)

First of all, this company Ecoquest is ot at all interested in selling their products . The air purifier good or bad is just a facade for the obvious pyramid type business they are. The company doesnt care whether or not the product is sold to consumers, they are quite content with the new members being the money spenders of the new products. I have a family member who has given this company enthusiasm, money,time and effort and basically it is almost fuitless trying to find someone to buy these over priced machines. The company touts the success of all of the people in "higher" positions (upline, downline etc ) and how rapidly one can move up. Yet the bottom positioned new people must oulay their own money and purchase 4 to 6 machines and go find customers with completely restricted methods. WHy? The only money that is actually made in the long run is off of new sign ups or at least that is what came across to me . Which is painfully obvious when attending a sales meeting. the only thing that is talked about is getting new sign ups under you to make money. The product rarely came into the discussion except at the end when they wanted to know how many more machines the salepeople were going to purchase. It also causes me a red flag when the new sign ups must buy the product and find sales , but are not allowed to use any tools that might actually facilitate such sales, like advertising, or personal websites or online auctions. Considering that is the most effective way to reach a broad scale of would be purchasing consumers. But if the salespeople were to do their sales in that way, obviously the hard sell of the pyramid would be eliminated, and that is where they make money , and not from actual product sales to comsumers. Think about it, why would it matter if they were interested in selling products, more sales makes sense. No its quite obvious the real intent is a pyramid type of scheme. If the salepeople are indeed forced to outlay money then the means to sell their purchased products should be their own since it would be a resale situation, like just about every other product sold. as opposed to the pushing and hard selling of the idea to bring in others "under" themselves. I may have read some of their motives incorrectly but I know first hand that the product they are selling is a pyramid and not their attempted disquise of the selling of products. The success stories I heard were all rehearsed and after doing the math based upon these testimonials there is no way the money numbers could have been what these people claimed . While the organization claims to be huge, the bottom line is no one is really selling these products. they only make money off of the new sales people and quite frankly as large as they claim to be , I have never met anyone who even had one of their products nor have I ever met anyone who knows someone with one of these. I dont like people who try to hard sell, brainwash, and outright lie to get people involved. If they are not a pyramid as they are very quick to say then what are they, because restricting obvious means to sell their products proves the only product they actually sell is joining their pyramid.

I am a Canadian and have been introduced to Ecoquest through a fellow Canadian. Since then this business has opened my eyes to alot of things going on around me and thats through self evaluation. I suggest you read: The Toronto Sun Monday March 27 2006 Your Health section Clean Air - and longer life Harvard University study confirms links between air pollution and life span-to the tune of 75,000 deaths a year in U.S. On Jan 23 2006 we elected a new government and again there was the issue of pollution being brought up. And do I believe they are going to do anything about it. The goverments in my lifetime have not done much so I wont hold my breath. I thank my new friends for opening my eyes and yes I have tried the product out and I got positive reviews My fiances parents they want one and thought it worked great. I thank Ecoquest for trying to make our lives better and I dont mind if they make a profit from my work (Oops did I say a four letter word)

Please, run as fast as you can from Ecoquest. I was a dealer for over 2 years. I have extensive business background. My direct upline gave me what he knew was advice that was not in my own business interest to make more money for himself. I lost more than mult. thousands. He would preach to me about being a Christ Like, then lie to me with his next breath. Rules were different for different people. I wanted to do radio ads & was told if I did I would lose my dealership. I could not afford that since I had over $15,0000 woth of product in my garage. Yet, a master manager was allowed to do radio ads without losing his dealership. Machines were constantly breaking down, arriving not working, & the situation got even worse when they started their "quality assurance program". I spoke with my upline about this problem, & that it was happening to my downline as well, but it fell on deaf ears. The first time I had a machine not work I was told there was nothing that could be done about it because I only had 30 days to return damaged goods from the date of my purchase. I was not informed of this when I signed on. In the end I had 3 people return success packs after more than one year. At the time of there purchase I was not their sales manager & did not make that commission from their sale, my upline did. But a year later, as I moved up they fell under me due to promotions. I never made money from them, but when they returned their product, I was charged instead of the person who made the money a year ago. When I tried to explain this to my upline, my master manager, & Mike Jackson himself, I was insulted by the master manager. Now to top every thing else off, the very mild COPD I had is now more than moderate COPD as a direct result of using the machines in my home for 2 years. I asked various people in the company repeatedly about the efects of these machines on people with Copd, & I was lied to by sales managers & master magers alike. The result is, I have $10,000 - $15,000 in worthless product in my garage, & lung problems now. The dealers in Ecoquest must defend the company & the product, just as I did for so long, they have too much to lose if they do not. But that does not make them right, take it from one who has been on the inside & made it to Sr. Manager. I wish there was a class action suit, I would get in on it, as it is now they already have too much of my hard earned money.

Ecoquest is not allowed to make claims about the supposed health benefits of their product, because the FTC has determined that they are not true. This is all a matter of public record. In addition, Ecoquest's independent distributors are also barred from making health claims, and if they do so are in violation of the FTC's ruling. Lastly, ask yourself this: do you know ANYONE who has ever made any money through an MLM network?

I seldom give my attention to threads such as this but as a dealer for EcoQuest and an individual previously "burned" by negative multilevel marketing (MLM) experiences I felt compelled to give comment. Regarding the corporation I have nothing but positives to share. I have felt throughout the whole process that a very realistic picture was painted which placed much emphasis on hard work, patience, consistency as the path to a successful outcome. I have encountered undoubtedly the most supportive and positive group of individuals I have ever known. The corporation takes pride in its integrity and disclosure. I have never felt that I have been mislead by "pie in the sky" promises that were only attainable by the few. I have seen people become very successful in only a few months time. Those folks have worked incredibly hard and have earned that success. I have only myself to look to for success or failure. As a traditional business owner (laundry and dry cleaners) I (and anyone else - Hugh) who has been engaged in business should know there are risks, uncertainties and a pretty dependable rule that no success comes easily or is guaranteed. It would appear that many of the naysayers would have done better in business if they has channeled their energy into business instead of sniping and faultfinding. No business or entity is without faults. EcoQuest happens to be able to admit thiers when they arise. Much has been bandied about regarding prices and that no price has been quoted at a dealer's level. Hugh is unfortunately grossly misleading as has been pointed out. The truth is that a dealer's wholesale price (what reseller does not buy wholesale and mark up?) depends on their sales volume. You sell more - you get a better wholesale rate. This is not a concept that is foreign to business. Therefore there is no specific price to quote. Hugh was obviously very low in volume and thus paid a higher wholesale. If you want to bemoan high markups, look to the pharmaceutical industry. A recent contributor includes many websites and very official looking citations to support his assertion regarding the question of harmfulness vs benefit of ozone. I would offer up the following to those capable of original thought and the capacity to make informed decisions. Ozone production is not the sole mechanism by which many of the machines function (some product none). There are a collection of technologies of different types and efficacies at work in many of our units. I would also submit to the discerning reader that discussion and research findings vary and are not always definative. There is still controversy surrounding the issue as there has been around many such things that our governmental agencies have espoused opinions regarding. Ozone, like other environmental constituents can be benign or harmful depending on concentration and setting. Oxygen can be harmful if in too great a concentration at the wrong time. So, too can water. Too much can be detrimental to ones health when taken internally. I would ask, again that the discerning reader visit the following website which contains links to various independent research items and articles (www.louisianaenvironmentaltechnologies.com). Yes, the site is sponsored by a dealer but the material is independent. I would also point out that the company makes no medical claims; that all our units are registered with the EPA; and that the consumer makes the ultimate decision based on their experience. The potential consumer tries the unit of choice in their home, if they experience benefit they can choose to purchase, if not the dealer picks up the machine. It's pretty simple. The gentleman who experienced unpleasant effects may have had an inexperienced dealer who did not set the unit correctly or the individual may have changed the setting contrary to the directions. It is interesting to note that the EPA found that an unnamed unit capable of treating a stated space of 3000 square feet, when placed in a 350 sq ft closed space on the highest setting produced a concentration in excess of recommended levels. When you purchase a bottle of aspirin for a headache, read the usage directions that state "take 2 tablets every 4 hours" do you swallow the whole bottle and then complain that you suffered liver damage? Do you then present that ludicrous complaint in a public forum? Hugh, devote your energy to your mission effort. Hopefully it will give you a positive focus. To the other critical contributors, I wish you more realistic discernment on your next opportunity - if you are courageous enough to make the effort. To the consumer, do your own research, recall that our regulatory bodies have their own agendas and biases and let your experience be your guide.

This is in regards to C. from Texas, who believes this "system" is providing health benefits to his yong son... Here is what I found on the American lung association website... It is in Chapter 4 of the document that discusses how to select the proper air purifier. It is very clear that they are totally against Ozone generators. here is the link: http://www.lungusa.org/site/apps/s/content.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=34706&ct=67133 Problems with Ozone Generators Ozone is a potent lung irritant and exposure to elevated levels is a contributor to the exacerbation of lung disease; it is especially dangerous for persons with asthma and other chronic lung diseases, children, and the elderly. Residential indoor ozone is produced directly by ozone generators and indirectly by ion generators and some other electronic air cleaners. There is no difference, despite some manufacturers' claims, between outdoor ozone and ozone produced by these devices. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) took action in 1995 against two manufacturers of ozone generating devices. The FTC charged that they made unsubstantiated claims about the ability of their products to clean air of various indoor air pollutants and to prevent or relieve allergies, asthma and other conditions. Under the FTC's settlement, the manufacturers are prohibited from making marketing claims that ozone is effective in cleaning indoor air, that their products do not create harmful by-products, and that they prevent or provide relief from allergies, asthma, and other specified conditions, unless the claims are supported by reliable and adequate substantiation (FTC, 1995). Consumer Reports (1992), the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) (Boeniger, 1995), and the U.S. EPA (1995) concluded that tabletop and room unit ozone generators are not effective in improving indoor air quality. Studies have found that while some indoor air pollutant concentrations decline in the presence of ozone, other pollutants increase. In fact, upon reaction with ozone, some previously undetected, toxic chemicals emerge in indoor air, including formaldehyde and other aldehydes (Boeniger, 1995). There is a lack of evidence in the scientific literature that would support the effectiveness of ozone at low concentrations in removing organic contaminants from indoor air (Boeniger, 1995). A recent study by the U.S. EPA demonstrates that ozone is not effective for killing airborne molds and fungi even at high concentrations (6-9 ppm) (U.S. EPA, 1995). At higher concentrations, especially above 0.08 ppm, ozone is a potent irritant that can bring about diminished lung function, cough, inflammation associated with biochemical changes, and increased responsiveness to allergens. (Horstman, et al., 1990). Current evidence of the health effects of ozone suggests that there is no "safe" threshold concentration for the onset of health responses due to exposure above background ozone concentrations (Burnett, et al., 1994; U.S. EPA CASAC letter, 1995). Also, simultaneous exposure to ozone and other compounds may produce additive or synergistic effects (Last, et al, 1984). In addition, persons with asthma have increased susceptibility to ozone and exposure to low concentrations results in increased symptoms, medications use and hospitalizations. The FDA has set a limit of 0.05 ppm of ozone for medical devices. A small percentage of air cleaners that claim a health benefit are listed by the FDA and these devices conform to FDA regulations. However, ozone generators, negative ion generators, and certain other electronic air cleaners that are not listed by the FDA, or cannot otherwise prove that their ozone emission levels are lower than 0.05 ppm, may produce levels of ozone recognized as unsafe for humans and are not recommended for use in occupied spaces because of the risk of generation of ozone. For similar reasons, the American Lung Association does not suggest the use of these products Now I ask you all, is there any proof more solid or concrete out there that ozone is harmful? Does Ecoquest and it's employees deny that its product emits ozone into our houses? NO. Call your doctor and see what he says, I'm sure he'll tell you to TURN IT OFF NOW. Furthermore, there is negative information from neutral sources (I.e. Anerican Lung Association, the EPA, Consumer Affairs, etc), who CANNOT be paid off by competitors to report certain information. They report facts for our benefit. Please, advocates of Ecoquest, if there are any websites that contain information supporting ozone purifiers- from a reputable or medical and NOT consumer site- then direct me to them because I can't find them. I have been breathing this crap in for months and I am mad and C. from Texas, you should be too.

Dear Hugh, Please don't be dicouraged by previous rebutals coming from "successful" Ecoquest dealers! The truth is those at the top of the ladder are hard core MLM's who came to Ecoquest years ago and brought their previous uplines with them. So how can us, hard working folks ever be able to get to their level? I am a dealer as well and giving it almost two years now. I must say that amount of money that I've spent on advertizements and leads as well as on a success pack are huge, providing that I had to take out some loans to do so. Also, even though I have my own downline, who also purchased their success packs, none of them were able to sell those extreamly overpriced units!!! It trully is a rip-off! My manager was only happy to answer my calls when I was about to purchase success pack, from which she had benefited 40%! After that, she went on "inspiring" other individuals who were looking for way our of a rat race. So-called customer/dealer service is a joke at its best. Those people on the other end as ignorant and unprofessional as they can be. Anyhow, please, if you do not have huge downlines, money or rich relatives, stay clear off Ecoquest Intl!

I got the email and it got me curious, so I decided to check ripoffreport and sure enough here it is. After reading hughs and several other bad experiences I have to say "NO F***ing WAY!"to the idea of making money selling this machine. If this product were so good why the long rebuttals? And when the rebuttals are this numerous,abrasive and lengthy I have to say they are lying and hiding something...this is my gut feeling mind you. Also why does everyone shy away from the real argument?>>>>>TRUTH IN ADVERTISING! The advertisement is what lures you in with outrageous promises. SO alas if it sounds to good to be true IT IS! THANKS RIPOFFREPORT and thanks to all the bad rebuttals for helping me make a decision! BOTTOM LINE: DO NOT BUY

Hello folks, I've read this thread and respect all views laid out because each and every person has the right to express themselves. Let's begin. I'm a fairly new dealer in EcoQuest. I started in June of 2005. I had recently been laid off from the IT industry. I had worked for Microsoft for 7 years then went to a small, startup company in fear of all the outsourcing that was starting to happen there. Well, I got laid off, big surprise and was looking for something to pull me out of the corporate world and I wanted to be my own boss. I got an email one day that started the recruiting process for my current upline. Let me preface this by also saying that I was looking for a change. I didn't want to make others rich anymore and I knew that my current field was not going to get me the things that I truly wanted for my family and myself. So maybe I got involved with EcoQuest a little to hastily because I felt that it could bring those things to me. Anyway, I got a personal unit to test drive at first. I financed it via the company's 4 EZ payment plan. Even though they offer a free, no obligation trial, they HAVE to secure the product somehow so using a credit card was what I had to do. I was very anxious to see what the FreshAir would/could do as my youngest son of 4 years has what the doctors wrote off as "chronic allergies". He always has a runny nose and a rattling sound in his chest when breathing. Also, we live in Texas out in the country so there is quite a bit of junk floating in the air on any given day. We got the unit in on a Friday afternoon. We ran it from that moment on and by Tuesday I noticed that his symptoms were non existent. His nose wasn't running and when I put my ear to his back and chest and had him breathe in deep I didn't hear any hint of junk in his chest. I am a skeptic by nature but not so much that I let my mind be completely closed off. Needless to say, I was very curious as to what had happened here. Could it be that this purifier really did work a miracle for him? Or could it be that he mysteriously grew out of his allergies and it just happened to coincide during this test drive period? My wife and I hadn't done anything different in the home. The only thing new that was introduced into our home was the FreshAir. My wife and I were pretty excited with this because our child was in a better state of health from what we could tell. I then took it to my mom's house. She didn't know anything about it, I didn't tell her what I was doing or anything that would influence her comments. I received good feedback from her when I went to pick it up 2 days later. I then decided to go forward in the process of becoming a dealer with the company. I went ahead and decided to get a success pack. The particular pack I decided to get cost me $3200. This on top of the original purifier that I was test driving. The main reason I chose this particular success pack was because it automatically bumped me up to the 12% bonus override level. Basically, $4000 bucks to start my new venture and quite honestly, $4000 I truly didn't have. In retrospect, I should have gone with a cheaper route because to this date, I've had no need have a 12% override due to the fact that I don't have an organization below me yet. I was however, sold on the technology and the product so I felt good enough about being able to do this business and make my investment back pretty quickly and then some. Well, here we are, Almost into August and I have not made one retail sale and I have only 1 dealer signed up under me at the same level so I earn nothing on his efforts until I advance up the poll. That was the courtesy of my upline by the way. I have placed the unit in several homes/businesses and I have yet to receive negative feedback. The only thing negative I hear about them is the price. I have heard several times, I am going to buy one from you soon but I just can't afford it right now. My wife and I sometimes laugh about how she and I think. We don't think that $700 is bad for a piece of technology that works. Let alone when it's technology that reversed our son's allergy issues. That alone saves us $$$ in Dr's visits and prescriptions or over the counter meds that didn't work anyway. Let me also say that my wife is very sensitive to smells and she doesn't like the smell of the activated oxygen (ozone) that much either. So we had to play with the setting of the unit. Everyone is different but we found the happy medium if you will and she has no problem with headaches or nausea due to the purifier. We've always been told from the get go that if you can walk into the room and smell the ozone for 30 seconds to a minute and then no more, you've got it set properly. If you smell it longer than a minute, then it's up too high and you need to turn it down. I'm talking about the purifier setting which is responsible for producing the ozone smell. The unit will work with this setting completely off mind you; it just won't produce that, what I like to refer to as clean, fresh air smell. I've been told that the unit is 80% particulate removal and 20% odor removal (via Ozone). Bottom line: I'm sold on the technology. It's worked for me and my family. I don't think EcoQuest is pedaling useless devices nor preying on the dreams of people wanting to change their lives. As far as the business end of it. I knew full well that this would be a challenge. All businesses are or else we'd all be business owners, right? I've laid awake many a night since becoming an EcoQuester worrying about what failures or dreaming about what successes lie ahead. At the time of this posting I've placed the units in 12 homes/businesses. Everyone has said they would like to buy one but couldn't at the time due to it being a bit pricey for them. Believe me; this is very frustrating and disheartening for me. I've done 1 lead campaign that cost me $60 in which I received 33 leads of individuals who had filled out an 8 question form about starting a home based business. Nothing came from this campaign. I understand that this is a #'s game and I'm going to have to do more lead campaigns to get anything out of them. I've even put out about 200 flyers in new home developments in my area. I know that I'm getting closer and closer to a YES. The units that I got from my success pack, which I'm still trying to pay off, will not PLACE themselves. I AM RESPONSIBLE for getting off my 4th point of contact (my rear end for you who may not be privy to military slang) and getting the units into people's homes/businesses. I am going to stick with this business even though I've been discouraged about my results to date. I have to truly ask myself, "am I truly doing what it takes to succeed in this business?" and in most cases I'd have to say NO, I'm not. Who am I going to blame then? EcoQuest...my upline...my wife who sent me the email in the first place about this opportunity??? Sure, I could blame 1 or all 3 if I wanted to...but what good is that going to do me? Especially if I can be honest enough with myself to admit that I'm not doing everything I could to get it done. In summary, to anyone who has been approached or came across this opportunity I say this: There are many factors involved with your success or failure. Your personality, your support system, your means of funding, etc. This is not a GUARANTEED QUICK $$$ making program by default although I can see how it can be if you run into customers who buy consistently at retail. We can't argue that activity yields results, be them positive or negative; a result happens. If you commit to doing this business, you must do exactly that, COMMIT. If you are looking for the $$$, the cars, the homes, the time freedom to happen with minimal time and effort, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ECOQUEST or any other home based business for that matter. You'll just do yourself along with whatever company you represent a disservice. I hope this has helped anyone out there whether it be to go for it or hold off and do some research on other opportunities that exist. There are thousands and a majority I'm sure are very flighty. I just want to give a very real assessment of my own experience thus far.

Hello folks, I've read this thread and respect all views laid out because each and every person has the right to express themselves. Let's begin. I'm a fairly new dealer in EcoQuest. I started in June of 2005. I had recently been laid off from the IT industry. I had worked for Microsoft for 7 years then went to a small, startup company in fear of all the outsourcing that was starting to happen there. Well, I got laid off, big surprise and was looking for something to pull me out of the corporate world and I wanted to be my own boss. I got an email one day that started the recruiting process for my current upline. Let me preface this by also saying that I was looking for a change. I didn't want to make others rich anymore and I knew that my current field was not going to get me the things that I truly wanted for my family and myself. So maybe I got involved with EcoQuest a little to hastily because I felt that it could bring those things to me. Anyway, I got a personal unit to test drive at first. I financed it via the company's 4 EZ payment plan. Even though they offer a free, no obligation trial, they HAVE to secure the product somehow so using a credit card was what I had to do. I was very anxious to see what the FreshAir would/could do as my youngest son of 4 years has what the doctors wrote off as "chronic allergies". He always has a runny nose and a rattling sound in his chest when breathing. Also, we live in Texas out in the country so there is quite a bit of junk floating in the air on any given day. We got the unit in on a Friday afternoon. We ran it from that moment on and by Tuesday I noticed that his symptoms were non existent. His nose wasn't running and when I put my ear to his back and chest and had him breathe in deep I didn't hear any hint of junk in his chest. I am a skeptic by nature but not so much that I let my mind be completely closed off. Needless to say, I was very curious as to what had happened here. Could it be that this purifier really did work a miracle for him? Or could it be that he mysteriously grew out of his allergies and it just happened to coincide during this test drive period? My wife and I hadn't done anything different in the home. The only thing new that was introduced into our home was the FreshAir. My wife and I were pretty excited with this because our child was in a better state of health from what we could tell. I then took it to my mom's house. She didn't know anything about it, I didn't tell her what I was doing or anything that would influence her comments. I received good feedback from her when I went to pick it up 2 days later. I then decided to go forward in the process of becoming a dealer with the company. I went ahead and decided to get a success pack. The particular pack I decided to get cost me $3200. This on top of the original purifier that I was test driving. The main reason I chose this particular success pack was because it automatically bumped me up to the 12% bonus override level. Basically, $4000 bucks to start my new venture and quite honestly, $4000 I truly didn't have. In retrospect, I should have gone with a cheaper route because to this date, I've had no need have a 12% override due to the fact that I don't have an organization below me yet. I was however, sold on the technology and the product so I felt good enough about being able to do this business and make my investment back pretty quickly and then some. Well, here we are, Almost into August and I have not made one retail sale and I have only 1 dealer signed up under me at the same level so I earn nothing on his efforts until I advance up the poll. That was the courtesy of my upline by the way. I have placed the unit in several homes/businesses and I have yet to receive negative feedback. The only thing negative I hear about them is the price. I have heard several times, I am going to buy one from you soon but I just can't afford it right now. My wife and I sometimes laugh about how she and I think. We don't think that $700 is bad for a piece of technology that works. Let alone when it's technology that reversed our son's allergy issues. That alone saves us $$$ in Dr's visits and prescriptions or over the counter meds that didn't work anyway. Let me also say that my wife is very sensitive to smells and she doesn't like the smell of the activated oxygen (ozone) that much either. So we had to play with the setting of the unit. Everyone is different but we found the happy medium if you will and she has no problem with headaches or nausea due to the purifier. We've always been told from the get go that if you can walk into the room and smell the ozone for 30 seconds to a minute and then no more, you've got it set properly. If you smell it longer than a minute, then it's up too high and you need to turn it down. I'm talking about the purifier setting which is responsible for producing the ozone smell. The unit will work with this setting completely off mind you; it just won't produce that, what I like to refer to as clean, fresh air smell. I've been told that the unit is 80% particulate removal and 20% odor removal (via Ozone). Bottom line: I'm sold on the technology. It's worked for me and my family. I don't think EcoQuest is pedaling useless devices nor preying on the dreams of people wanting to change their lives. As far as the business end of it. I knew full well that this would be a challenge. All businesses are or else we'd all be business owners, right? I've laid awake many a night since becoming an EcoQuester worrying about what failures or dreaming about what successes lie ahead. At the time of this posting I've placed the units in 12 homes/businesses. Everyone has said they would like to buy one but couldn't at the time due to it being a bit pricey for them. Believe me; this is very frustrating and disheartening for me. I've done 1 lead campaign that cost me $60 in which I received 33 leads of individuals who had filled out an 8 question form about starting a home based business. Nothing came from this campaign. I understand that this is a #'s game and I'm going to have to do more lead campaigns to get anything out of them. I've even put out about 200 flyers in new home developments in my area. I know that I'm getting closer and closer to a YES. The units that I got from my success pack, which I'm still trying to pay off, will not PLACE themselves. I AM RESPONSIBLE for getting off my 4th point of contact (my rear end for you who may not be privy to military slang) and getting the units into people's homes/businesses. I am going to stick with this business even though I've been discouraged about my results to date. I have to truly ask myself, "am I truly doing what it takes to succeed in this business?" and in most cases I'd have to say NO, I'm not. Who am I going to blame then? EcoQuest...my upline...my wife who sent me the email in the first place about this opportunity??? Sure, I could blame 1 or all 3 if I wanted to...but what good is that going to do me? Especially if I can be honest enough with myself to admit that I'm not doing everything I could to get it done. In summary, to anyone who has been approached or came across this opportunity I say this: There are many factors involved with your success or failure. Your personality, your support system, your means of funding, etc. This is not a GUARANTEED QUICK $$$ making program by default although I can see how it can be if you run into customers who buy consistently at retail. We can't argue that activity yields results, be them positive or negative; a result happens. If you commit to doing this business, you must do exactly that, COMMIT. If you are looking for the $$$, the cars, the homes, the time freedom to happen with minimal time and effort, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ECOQUEST or any other home based business for that matter. You'll just do yourself along with whatever company you represent a disservice. I hope this has helped anyone out there whether it be to go for it or hold off and do some research on other opportunities that exist. There are thousands and a majority I'm sure are very flighty. I just want to give a very real assessment of my own experience thus far.

Hello folks, I've read this thread and respect all views laid out because each and every person has the right to express themselves. Let's begin. I'm a fairly new dealer in EcoQuest. I started in June of 2005. I had recently been laid off from the IT industry. I had worked for Microsoft for 7 years then went to a small, startup company in fear of all the outsourcing that was starting to happen there. Well, I got laid off, big surprise and was looking for something to pull me out of the corporate world and I wanted to be my own boss. I got an email one day that started the recruiting process for my current upline. Let me preface this by also saying that I was looking for a change. I didn't want to make others rich anymore and I knew that my current field was not going to get me the things that I truly wanted for my family and myself. So maybe I got involved with EcoQuest a little to hastily because I felt that it could bring those things to me. Anyway, I got a personal unit to test drive at first. I financed it via the company's 4 EZ payment plan. Even though they offer a free, no obligation trial, they HAVE to secure the product somehow so using a credit card was what I had to do. I was very anxious to see what the FreshAir would/could do as my youngest son of 4 years has what the doctors wrote off as "chronic allergies". He always has a runny nose and a rattling sound in his chest when breathing. Also, we live in Texas out in the country so there is quite a bit of junk floating in the air on any given day. We got the unit in on a Friday afternoon. We ran it from that moment on and by Tuesday I noticed that his symptoms were non existent. His nose wasn't running and when I put my ear to his back and chest and had him breathe in deep I didn't hear any hint of junk in his chest. I am a skeptic by nature but not so much that I let my mind be completely closed off. Needless to say, I was very curious as to what had happened here. Could it be that this purifier really did work a miracle for him? Or could it be that he mysteriously grew out of his allergies and it just happened to coincide during this test drive period? My wife and I hadn't done anything different in the home. The only thing new that was introduced into our home was the FreshAir. My wife and I were pretty excited with this because our child was in a better state of health from what we could tell. I then took it to my mom's house. She didn't know anything about it, I didn't tell her what I was doing or anything that would influence her comments. I received good feedback from her when I went to pick it up 2 days later. I then decided to go forward in the process of becoming a dealer with the company. I went ahead and decided to get a success pack. The particular pack I decided to get cost me $3200. This on top of the original purifier that I was test driving. The main reason I chose this particular success pack was because it automatically bumped me up to the 12% bonus override level. Basically, $4000 bucks to start my new venture and quite honestly, $4000 I truly didn't have. In retrospect, I should have gone with a cheaper route because to this date, I've had no need have a 12% override due to the fact that I don't have an organization below me yet. I was however, sold on the technology and the product so I felt good enough about being able to do this business and make my investment back pretty quickly and then some. Well, here we are, Almost into August and I have not made one retail sale and I have only 1 dealer signed up under me at the same level so I earn nothing on his efforts until I advance up the poll. That was the courtesy of my upline by the way. I have placed the unit in several homes/businesses and I have yet to receive negative feedback. The only thing negative I hear about them is the price. I have heard several times, I am going to buy one from you soon but I just can't afford it right now. My wife and I sometimes laugh about how she and I think. We don't think that $700 is bad for a piece of technology that works. Let alone when it's technology that reversed our son's allergy issues. That alone saves us $$$ in Dr's visits and prescriptions or over the counter meds that didn't work anyway. Let me also say that my wife is very sensitive to smells and she doesn't like the smell of the activated oxygen (ozone) that much either. So we had to play with the setting of the unit. Everyone is different but we found the happy medium if you will and she has no problem with headaches or nausea due to the purifier. We've always been told from the get go that if you can walk into the room and smell the ozone for 30 seconds to a minute and then no more, you've got it set properly. If you smell it longer than a minute, then it's up too high and you need to turn it down. I'm talking about the purifier setting which is responsible for producing the ozone smell. The unit will work with this setting completely off mind you; it just won't produce that, what I like to refer to as clean, fresh air smell. I've been told that the unit is 80% particulate removal and 20% odor removal (via Ozone). Bottom line: I'm sold on the technology. It's worked for me and my family. I don't think EcoQuest is pedaling useless devices nor preying on the dreams of people wanting to change their lives. As far as the business end of it. I knew full well that this would be a challenge. All businesses are or else we'd all be business owners, right? I've laid awake many a night since becoming an EcoQuester worrying about what failures or dreaming about what successes lie ahead. At the time of this posting I've placed the units in 12 homes/businesses. Everyone has said they would like to buy one but couldn't at the time due to it being a bit pricey for them. Believe me; this is very frustrating and disheartening for me. I've done 1 lead campaign that cost me $60 in which I received 33 leads of individuals who had filled out an 8 question form about starting a home based business. Nothing came from this campaign. I understand that this is a #'s game and I'm going to have to do more lead campaigns to get anything out of them. I've even put out about 200 flyers in new home developments in my area. I know that I'm getting closer and closer to a YES. The units that I got from my success pack, which I'm still trying to pay off, will not PLACE themselves. I AM RESPONSIBLE for getting off my 4th point of contact (my rear end for you who may not be privy to military slang) and getting the units into people's homes/businesses. I am going to stick with this business even though I've been discouraged about my results to date. I have to truly ask myself, "am I truly doing what it takes to succeed in this business?" and in most cases I'd have to say NO, I'm not. Who am I going to blame then? EcoQuest...my upline...my wife who sent me the email in the first place about this opportunity??? Sure, I could blame 1 or all 3 if I wanted to...but what good is that going to do me? Especially if I can be honest enough with myself to admit that I'm not doing everything I could to get it done. In summary, to anyone who has been approached or came across this opportunity I say this: There are many factors involved with your success or failure. Your personality, your support system, your means of funding, etc. This is not a GUARANTEED QUICK $$$ making program by default although I can see how it can be if you run into customers who buy consistently at retail. We can't argue that activity yields results, be them positive or negative; a result happens. If you commit to doing this business, you must do exactly that, COMMIT. If you are looking for the $$$, the cars, the homes, the time freedom to happen with minimal time and effort, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ECOQUEST or any other home based business for that matter. You'll just do yourself along with whatever company you represent a disservice. I hope this has helped anyone out there whether it be to go for it or hold off and do some research on other opportunities that exist. There are thousands and a majority I'm sure are very flighty. I just want to give a very real assessment of my own experience thus far.

Hello folks, I've read this thread and respect all views laid out because each and every person has the right to express themselves. Let's begin. I'm a fairly new dealer in EcoQuest. I started in June of 2005. I had recently been laid off from the IT industry. I had worked for Microsoft for 7 years then went to a small, startup company in fear of all the outsourcing that was starting to happen there. Well, I got laid off, big surprise and was looking for something to pull me out of the corporate world and I wanted to be my own boss. I got an email one day that started the recruiting process for my current upline. Let me preface this by also saying that I was looking for a change. I didn't want to make others rich anymore and I knew that my current field was not going to get me the things that I truly wanted for my family and myself. So maybe I got involved with EcoQuest a little to hastily because I felt that it could bring those things to me. Anyway, I got a personal unit to test drive at first. I financed it via the company's 4 EZ payment plan. Even though they offer a free, no obligation trial, they HAVE to secure the product somehow so using a credit card was what I had to do. I was very anxious to see what the FreshAir would/could do as my youngest son of 4 years has what the doctors wrote off as "chronic allergies". He always has a runny nose and a rattling sound in his chest when breathing. Also, we live in Texas out in the country so there is quite a bit of junk floating in the air on any given day. We got the unit in on a Friday afternoon. We ran it from that moment on and by Tuesday I noticed that his symptoms were non existent. His nose wasn't running and when I put my ear to his back and chest and had him breathe in deep I didn't hear any hint of junk in his chest. I am a skeptic by nature but not so much that I let my mind be completely closed off. Needless to say, I was very curious as to what had happened here. Could it be that this purifier really did work a miracle for him? Or could it be that he mysteriously grew out of his allergies and it just happened to coincide during this test drive period? My wife and I hadn't done anything different in the home. The only thing new that was introduced into our home was the FreshAir. My wife and I were pretty excited with this because our child was in a better state of health from what we could tell. I then took it to my mom's house. She didn't know anything about it, I didn't tell her what I was doing or anything that would influence her comments. I received good feedback from her when I went to pick it up 2 days later. I then decided to go forward in the process of becoming a dealer with the company. I went ahead and decided to get a success pack. The particular pack I decided to get cost me $3200. This on top of the original purifier that I was test driving. The main reason I chose this particular success pack was because it automatically bumped me up to the 12% bonus override level. Basically, $4000 bucks to start my new venture and quite honestly, $4000 I truly didn't have. In retrospect, I should have gone with a cheaper route because to this date, I've had no need have a 12% override due to the fact that I don't have an organization below me yet. I was however, sold on the technology and the product so I felt good enough about being able to do this business and make my investment back pretty quickly and then some. Well, here we are, Almost into August and I have not made one retail sale and I have only 1 dealer signed up under me at the same level so I earn nothing on his efforts until I advance up the poll. That was the courtesy of my upline by the way. I have placed the unit in several homes/businesses and I have yet to receive negative feedback. The only thing negative I hear about them is the price. I have heard several times, I am going to buy one from you soon but I just can't afford it right now. My wife and I sometimes laugh about how she and I think. We don't think that $700 is bad for a piece of technology that works. Let alone when it's technology that reversed our son's allergy issues. That alone saves us $$$ in Dr's visits and prescriptions or over the counter meds that didn't work anyway. Let me also say that my wife is very sensitive to smells and she doesn't like the smell of the activated oxygen (ozone) that much either. So we had to play with the setting of the unit. Everyone is different but we found the happy medium if you will and she has no problem with headaches or nausea due to the purifier. We've always been told from the get go that if you can walk into the room and smell the ozone for 30 seconds to a minute and then no more, you've got it set properly. If you smell it longer than a minute, then it's up too high and you need to turn it down. I'm talking about the purifier setting which is responsible for producing the ozone smell. The unit will work with this setting completely off mind you; it just won't produce that, what I like to refer to as clean, fresh air smell. I've been told that the unit is 80% particulate removal and 20% odor removal (via Ozone). Bottom line: I'm sold on the technology. It's worked for me and my family. I don't think EcoQuest is pedaling useless devices nor preying on the dreams of people wanting to change their lives. As far as the business end of it. I knew full well that this would be a challenge. All businesses are or else we'd all be business owners, right? I've laid awake many a night since becoming an EcoQuester worrying about what failures or dreaming about what successes lie ahead. At the time of this posting I've placed the units in 12 homes/businesses. Everyone has said they would like to buy one but couldn't at the time due to it being a bit pricey for them. Believe me; this is very frustrating and disheartening for me. I've done 1 lead campaign that cost me $60 in which I received 33 leads of individuals who had filled out an 8 question form about starting a home based business. Nothing came from this campaign. I understand that this is a #'s game and I'm going to have to do more lead campaigns to get anything out of them. I've even put out about 200 flyers in new home developments in my area. I know that I'm getting closer and closer to a YES. The units that I got from my success pack, which I'm still trying to pay off, will not PLACE themselves. I AM RESPONSIBLE for getting off my 4th point of contact (my rear end for you who may not be privy to military slang) and getting the units into people's homes/businesses. I am going to stick with this business even though I've been discouraged about my results to date. I have to truly ask myself, "am I truly doing what it takes to succeed in this business?" and in most cases I'd have to say NO, I'm not. Who am I going to blame then? EcoQuest...my upline...my wife who sent me the email in the first place about this opportunity??? Sure, I could blame 1 or all 3 if I wanted to...but what good is that going to do me? Especially if I can be honest enough with myself to admit that I'm not doing everything I could to get it done. In summary, to anyone who has been approached or came across this opportunity I say this: There are many factors involved with your success or failure. Your personality, your support system, your means of funding, etc. This is not a GUARANTEED QUICK $$$ making program by default although I can see how it can be if you run into customers who buy consistently at retail. We can't argue that activity yields results, be them positive or negative; a result happens. If you commit to doing this business, you must do exactly that, COMMIT. If you are looking for the $$$, the cars, the homes, the time freedom to happen with minimal time and effort, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH ECOQUEST or any other home based business for that matter. You'll just do yourself along with whatever company you represent a disservice. I hope this has helped anyone out there whether it be to go for it or hold off and do some research on other opportunities that exist. There are thousands and a majority I'm sure are very flighty. I just want to give a very real assessment of my own experience thus far.

Ok folks, I can't sit here and read anymore of this without injecting a story and some important comments. Not long ago my good buddy "Joe" purchased one of these ozone generators from an EcoQuest distributor. He was also interested in possibly becoming a distributor himself so he called me up with his pitch and I told him to bring the machine over for a demo. This is one of the expensive models with a remote control and such that sells for around $700. Well, we placed it in my game room where I smoke and let it run for a couple of hours. When we went back into the gameroom I fired up a cigarette and watched the action. Sure enough the EcoQuest cleared the smoke out of the air along with other odors in the room. However, it left a very strange smell that I recognized but could not quite place at the time. I told my buddy that the smell was making me nauseated and was giving me a headache. Soon after, he gathered his machine up and went home. For the rest of the night and even the next morning I would go into the game room and I would start to feel crappy again. The strange smell also lingered. I finally turned on an exhaust fan I have in this room and cleared the strange smell out along with my headache and sour stomach. I talked to my buddy a few days later and he too was complaining of a headache and sour stomach. (No, he doesn't smoke) Several days later it finally dawned on me what the smell was. Ozone!!! I've worked in the past around high voltage equipment and when you turn the equipment on you sometimes get a rush of ozone. This got me curious so I stared looking in to this product not knowing at the time that the method that this machine uses is Ozone generation, but with a small amount of reading I found out indeed that this is how it works. I could not believe it!! People are actually stupid enough to put an ozone generator in their house???!!! So I kept researching and what I found was disgusting. GENERATING OZONE IN YOUR HOME IS NOT SAFE!!! EcoQuest states that ozone is safe because it's a naturally occurring substance in the enviornment produced by lightning and waterfalls. BALONEY!! Carbon monoxide is a naturally occurring substance in the enviornment too, but unless you're Dr.Kavorkian you certainly don't want a machine producing it in your home!! There is also claims of "good" ozone and "bad" ozone and that the machine produces "good" ozone. BALONEY!! There is "good" and "bad" ozone but it has to do with altitude not generation method. "Good" ozone is the ozone that exist at a high altitude (ozone layer) that protect us from UV rays, "bad" ozone is ozone that is found at altitudes were people exist and contributes to air pollution!! Think I'm full of it, see for yourself: Shall we start with the EPA? http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html How about the American Lung Association?? http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=39310 How about Alaska Health?? http://www.epi.hss.state.ak.us/bulletins/docs/b1997_36.htm How about the state of California?? http://www.cal-iaq.org/o3_fact.htm http://www.applications.dhs.ca.gov/pressreleases/store/pressreleases/27-97.html How about the country of Canada?? http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/protection/warnings/1999/99_62e.htm Not only that, but many of these claims that these companies make are worthless. Still don't believe me?? Alpine was the name of this company before EcoQuest bought them out. The FDA filed suit against Alpine to stop making these false claims and won. http://www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Alpine/alpine.html To top that off, the people that are most adversly affected by ozone are one of the groups targeted by this company for sales, people with breathing problems. I'm sorry, but these machine are not safe and will probably soon be banned in this country. If you have one of these machine and have been getting headaches, shortness of breath, nausea and so forth try turning it off for a couple of days and I bet your symptoms will disappear. As far as the MLM aspect of this company I read a few thing above that really bothered me too. First, Toby above said that the restocking fee is to take used units, clean and upgrade them, repackage them etc. So.....EcoQuest is selling used machines, cleaned up and repackaged, as new??? Next, someone mentioned EcoQuest can't be responsible for an uplink giving false info to a distributor. Huh??? The company is 100% responsible if an uplink lies to distributor or anyone else about their product. The uplink is representing the product with the companys blessing, this makes the company responsible. See the link above concerning the FDA law suit. Next, Toby I belive it was, said he sells this product in Canada. Canada has pulled the certification for the product and had warned the population not to use them. See the link above about Canada. And please, please, please do not send me a link to an EcoQuest website that tries to debunk all the info in the links above. Any study put out by any company is for the benefit of the company. They are not going to tell the truth. If you want to prove me wrong send me a link to a independent testing agency (like I did) that says these things are safe and effective. Bet you can't find one. Please people, before you buy into this product please use your brain. YOU the distributor may be the one that gets sued for making these false and dangerous claims. Think about your family and pets first before you chase the almighty MLM dollar. Maybe the companys insurance against laysuits is why these machines are so expensive. Do you, the distributor, also have legal insurance??? You will probably need it in the future. Flame away, I'm ready!!!

I have to say that the experience Hug has had with Ecoquest has been completly different than mine. And while I know the work it takes to build a successful restaurant (previously owning Six restaurants...none of them franchise operations) is incredible, the business approach is totally different with a home baseed business. With a restaurant the key to success is location, lifestyle and location. With a home based business such as EcoQuest it is relationship, follow through, knowledge and personal reputation. This is the first direct marketing program I have endeavored on and I have to say to this point I am impressed with not only my diret upline but with the entire organization I have come in contact with...Each has cautioned me to not invest in the "fast start kit" unitl I believe I have a base to didstribute that to...each has offered me the use of their resources including all product sold by EcoQuest, DVD's and so on...I will be presenting the EcoQuest program to a group of realtors on May 6th...a gentleman from my same upline is coming in from Louisville, KY to help me accurately answer questions...additionally I was given an air purifyer to try for 7 days...My wife and I live in a home that is nearly 100 years old...we have three dogs...one cat and from time to time a damp basement...we set up the Fresh Air system in a matter of minutes...turned it on and let it do its thing...within two days there was a noticable difference in our home...in the smelll and in the quality of the sleep I personally experienced. Hugh...I am sorry this didn't work for you but honestly I think if your upline would have qualified you a little better...you probably would have been flushed out before you signed on and failed. Good luck with you efforts working in Youth Ministry...as a Brother in Christ I'd ask you to stop harming your reputation by lashing out on websites when you personally fail. Take account for your own actions and teach that to the children you work with.

I recently decided to become a dealer (3 days ago) for Ecoquest and what I can say so far is that my upline has been totally honest. I want to point out a fact of selling a product or service whether it's MLM or not. You have to work hard. I used to work 9-5 jobs and went up the ladder abit and after 9/11 was laid off. If anyone is industry savvy, telecom took a hard dive and I was effected by it. IT professionals have it hard now, so what did I do? I became a sales rep for another company other than EcoQuest. I am no longer working 9-5 with my normal sales job. I work 60 hours FROM HOME. I work two jobs, Ecoquest and my current sales job, both FROM HOME. So, when Hugh gets mad at home based business, it's baseless. I worked from home working for Sprint and that was NOT baseless or a waste of time. Neither is working for EQ. Let me explain: In my sales job that I get paid a salary + commission, I do 30 cold calls per day and work from HOME. I work hard at selling for that company. I expect to work just as hard with the same principles for EcoQuest. I'm not ignorant of what it takes to do sales and if you want to be successful in anything, you have to sell yourself in whatever way works for you. From what I can see so far, working for EqoQuest is no different than working for my other company that I get paid a salary + commissions on. If you don't want to put in the time and work and doing cold calls - YES COLD CALLING, then find a part time job babysitting children or doing in home catering. Hugh, It wasn't the company. It was your upline. I would never have joined EcoQuest if I had not accepted a full time Account Executive position for the USA's leading merchant provider and undertstood what it meant to sell. You have to get out there and hustle - LIKE ALL BUSINESSES. It seems you weren't will to do that. I am approaching EQ as a retail business right now and eventually once I get more trained, focusing on residual profit creating a downline would be stupid. Sales is for making money and residuals are apart of that. I also make residuals in my salary based home business position as an Account Executive, so residuals come with the sales territory if the company wants to support their reps. I don't see one difference between EQ or any other sales position out there in telecom, pharmaceutical sales or anything else. Hard work is what makes it work. You do it or you don't make money. Oh, one more thing. I was told by my upline to start of with a 3 package, but I bought the 2495 package instead because I know what I can do with hard work, and that is what I plan to do. Cheers! K

I recently decided to become a dealer (3 days ago) for Ecoquest and what I can say so far is that my upline has been totally honest. I want to point out a fact of selling a product or service whether it's MLM or not. You have to work hard. I used to work 9-5 jobs and went up the ladder abit and after 9/11 was laid off. If anyone is industry savvy, telecom took a hard dive and I was effected by it. IT professionals have it hard now, so what did I do? I became a sales rep for another company other than EcoQuest. I am no longer working 9-5 with my normal sales job. I work 60 hours FROM HOME. I work two jobs, Ecoquest and my current sales job, both FROM HOME. So, when Hugh gets mad at home based business, it's baseless. I worked from home working for Sprint and that was NOT baseless or a waste of time. Neither is working for EQ. Let me explain: In my sales job that I get paid a salary + commission, I do 30 cold calls per day and work from HOME. I work hard at selling for that company. I expect to work just as hard with the same principles for EcoQuest. I'm not ignorant of what it takes to do sales and if you want to be successful in anything, you have to sell yourself in whatever way works for you. From what I can see so far, working for EqoQuest is no different than working for my other company that I get paid a salary + commissions on. If you don't want to put in the time and work and doing cold calls - YES COLD CALLING, then find a part time job babysitting children or doing in home catering. Hugh, It wasn't the company. It was your upline. I would never have joined EcoQuest if I had not accepted a full time Account Executive position for the USA's leading merchant provider and undertstood what it meant to sell. You have to get out there and hustle - LIKE ALL BUSINESSES. It seems you weren't will to do that. I am approaching EQ as a retail business right now and eventually once I get more trained, not focusing on residual profit creating a downline would be stupid. Sales is for making money and residuals are apart of that. I also make residuals in my salary based home business position as an Account Executive, so residuals come with the sales territory if the company wants to support their reps. I don't see one difference between EQ or any other sales position out there in telecom, pharmaceutical sales or anything else. Hard work is what makes it work. You do it or you don't make money. Oh, one more thing. I was told by my upline to start of with a 3 package, but I bought the 2495 package instead because I know what I can do with hard work, and that is what I plan to do. Cheers! K

As a new dealer of EcoQuest, I do see the potential of being financially independent of all the other work at home businesses. As it was stated by others, YOU need to work at it. I also purchaced the starter pack and do not regret it one bit. You need to show your potential buyers something. He did not need to buy the $2495 pack if he did not see what the units would do for the business. There are smaller starter kits available. If he had done as his manager had taught him he would most likely by now not be in the restaurant buisness. As for the units not working, if he plugged the unit in, work fantastic for my alergies and I have 4 smokers in the house and 2 dogs. My home smells country fresh and no more puffy eyes or coughing. OH! I live in Florida where the mold is everywhere except my home. If Hugh just tried a little more at working the system, he might just have money in his pocket today.

It is indeed odd that only one "complaint" is listed against EcoQuest International. Unfortunately, I was scammed by another nationally known company selling nutritional products. I can't honestly say there is anything wrong with the products themselves, but vague labeling (Green capsules, Yellow capsules and Beige capsules)seemed suspect once I received the product. My biggest complaint was the marketing system they used. There's where the scam came into play. I said all that to say this. It took me months to decide to risk involvement with EcoQuest after being burned so badly by the other company. I was told up front, as are all our prospects, that it was not a "get rich quick" business and I would have to work to be successful. After almost two years with EcoQuest, I can proudly state that EcoQuest and the marketing system I use has fulfilled each and every promise made. The team is fully supportive, the training is without parallel and the I have made is commisurate with the work I've put into the business. Note: I responded as an employee with insider information simply because that is the closest category to my relationship with EcoQuest, as it is with any EcoQuest partner. I am not an employee, nor do I own EcoQuest. I own my own business. Perhaps Hugh is better equipped to be a cook if he is as successful/happy as he claims. His inability to become successful after six months is not the fault of EcoQuest. The unit price he states for Distributors is just WRONG. There is much valuable material included as well as another unit he conveniently failed to mention. His claim to be a Distributor is WRONG. Buying a Success Pack alone does not qualify anyone as Distributor. Apparently the gentleman was unwilling to do the work required or was unteachable. His own shortcomings should not reflect poorly on one of the few companies out there that actually lives up to its claims. Valuable, effective products that help people live better and an honest opportunity for those willing to work.

I will respond to each of item listed by No-M. Read his/hers first to get the question... 1) MLM's like anything have flaws in their economic design. Find me a "perfect" system. Sure Walmart's a leader in it's industry and highly profitable. One would have to be completely ignorant, however, to believe that their money is made through 100% legal means. Walmart is sued every day for worker related violations, including time clock and overtime violations, not to mention the hiring of illegal aliens to satisfy night work demands. 2) I went into a large superstore yesterday, the microwave I was looking at was $15.00 more than it was two days ago (and it wasn't on sale then either). My reasoning indicates that the basic laws of supply and demand went into effect and the manufacturer can afford to raise the price due to the holiday season, knowing full well that he intends to lower the price for a sale the day after T-Giving, which will most likely put it to where it was two days ago. To "No-M", what's your point? This is legal "price fixing" and you're not griping about it? Ecoquest does not do this. In fact in one instance when we could of raised the price because of the demand on the unit we lowered it. Shortly after 9/11 the residents would be reimbursed $500.00 for an air purifier. Because of the demand Ecoquest could of raised the MSRP at least a hundred bucks on all our popular units. Did we do it?? Nope. In fact we lowered the price of out Breeze AT HF $50.00 so folks could get a free purifier. So again, No-M, what is your point here exactly? 3) Untrue. We can not sell our products anywhere on line. You CAN NOT buy products from our website. Here: www.ecoquest.com. Knock yourself out. There is no "sham" site that allows it either. Anyone who does operate by this means does so outside the law and are being investigated by private detectives by Ecoquest. 4) We've heard this complaint and we've made changes. Too bad you lost your patience. Things are much better now. 5) You know the old saying there "No-M", when you point a finger three are pointing back at you. You shouldn't have to ask for anything -- you can see our entire product catalog on line and for that matter order one line. You're right you can't ask a generic question for Living Water III replacement filters because we have 5 different filters for all types of water supplies: Arsenic/Flouride, Nitrate, Sodium, Softner/De-alkalizing, and Tannin Reduction filters. Ouch, who is the idiot now? 6)Your upline stinks. Ha! They don't speak for the company. When someone asks me if this is an MLM I say, "It is if you want it to be?" Because if you choose to retail only it's not an MLM. If you choose to build a business the network marketing compensation plan now applies and it is an MLM. 7) That's because our water product is not unique and our air products are. That's also because 90% of our money comes from our unique product. 8)Of course. That's the point. If you want to be a salesman all your life go sell BMW's -- you're more likely to make a great earning and also work a 9-5. If you want to get involved in a fast paced, hard working MLM, you're much better off building business leaders below you. It's called a "residual income". Something you won't get selling BMW's or managing a Walmart. It what truly separates an MLM from the rest of the world. How many average people can own their own self-producing money machine with zero dollars out of their pocket? Too bad, you're 15 page link doesn't expose this truth. If I fail at this business it'll be because I wasn't cut out of it, not because the company is "another MLM" or because of operators on the order line. You are no different than Hugh. You two wish to blame everyone else for your own failures. Next time try failing forward. You'll go further in life I'm certain.

There are so many problems with EcoQuest I hardly know where to begin. And yes, I did give it the required time. 1. It's an MLM plain and simple. MLM's are designed for failure. See this page for the many reasons (I won't go into them here): http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html 2- Like most MLM's there is price fixing. And the price IS above what is competitive. 3- Ecoquest will not let you sell their products online. Only with one of "their" websites which are nothing but sham sales pitch websites. No shopping cart allowed! My upline initially told me that I could sell online (which was a lie). See #6 4 - There are very few people at Ecoquest who know anything and they're hard to get to. Tried to get some technical answers for the living water and never got them. Othertimes I got BS and conflicting answers. 5 - The people on the EcoQuest order line are idiots and send you the wrong thing unless you give them EXACT part numbers. You can't say "I want replacement filters for the living water iii" for example. 6 - The uplines tell lies to get you onboard. They think they can fib and lie and it won't matter if they eventually get busted, because you'll be hooked on their dream spiel. Among other lies, my upline told me it was not an MLM. Ha! 7 - I was more interested in the Water Purification products than the air products and I could never find any support for that. The uplines kept trying to push towards the Air products. 8 - Like most MLM's the emphasis is on bringing more downlines, NOT on the product. The fatal flaw of all MLM's. Although personally I feel that the Living Water III is one of the best Water Filtration devices around. What a shame. Sorry, no ECOQUEST for me.

I absolutely love it when people come up with the obvious. I nor has anybody else glazed over the reality. I have been 100% honest with the public in face of the lies and misrepresenting statements put out by disgruntled dealers. To Mirzet I would say that you are absolutely correct. There isn't a single wholesaler out there who would make such a blanket statement that 100% of its product has been sold on the retail market. Nor have we. I've always heard Ecoquest leaders state the we have marketed to about 1% of the American public. We have never mentioned a single percentage value more. So what is your point exactly? Nobody is "suckered" or forced into purchasing a Success Pack. This is a volunteer business. If a person doesn't think he or she can market or sell the product they have no business buying it. Now I recognize that some people think they do, then realize after their purchase that they don't. But how do people have the right to be angry with the company that sold them the product? If someone told me that a McDonalds hamburger was the greatest most delicious hamburger I'd ever try, then as I sunk my teeth into the stale bread and imitation meat realizing this person had mislead me, could I, be mad at McDonalds? If anything I could be slightly upset at the person. But I made the choice to buy that which ought to be given to sewer rats. Why do we always look to blame someone else instead of accepting responsibility for our own actions. The bottom line is I didn't embellish anything.

This for that guy that praises the Ecoquest. In his own words "hardly a saturated, 1%". I guess that means that only about 1 % of American population have those fresh air units, right? RIGHT. Well as he had written above there is a 650.000(sixvhundred and fifty thousand) independant reps for Ecoquest, right? RIGHT. Now lets say that all of them had bought 1 of those "success packages". Well, they do come with 4 living air units, right? RIGHT. So now we will multiply the 650.000 reps by a 4 units in each success pack,right? RIGHT. We get,what? 2.6 milion fresh air units on the market in the US alone, correct? CORRECT. Well how many people are there living in the us right now? Latest reports show about 250 milion. So when you divide the total number of people living in the US by the total number of units sold in the US you will come to 1% give or take. That is a correct statement that the person above had written. Now the main question is "How many of those fresh air units were actually sold to the public?" THE MATH THAT WE DID CLEARLY SHOWES THAT THERE ARE 650 THOUSAND PEOPLE OUTTHERE WITH 4 FRESH AIR UNITS IN THEIR OWN HOMES, SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER THEN THE TRUTH. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD WILL MAKE IT IN THIS WORLD, HOWEVER HARD WORKING PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO BE PROMISSED ONE THING AND SUCKERED INTO BUYING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE USELESS TO THEM. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE LIVING AIR UNITS, HOWEVER I DO HAVE A THING AGAINST THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS. I have to go now so if there are the people with 4 living air units outthere please post it on the web for everyone to see or work hard and buy yourself a 12000sq ft. home.

This for that guy that praises the Ecoquest. In his own words "hardly a saturated, 1%". I guess that means that only about 1 % of American population have those fresh air units, right? RIGHT. Well as he had written above there is a 650.000(sixvhundred and fifty thousand) independant reps for Ecoquest, right? RIGHT. Now lets say that all of them had bought 1 of those "success packages". Well, they do come with 4 living air units, right? RIGHT. So now we will multiply the 650.000 reps by a 4 units in each success pack,right? RIGHT. We get,what? 2.6 milion fresh air units on the market in the US alone, correct? CORRECT. Well how many people are there living in the us right now? Latest reports show about 250 milion. So when you divide the total number of people living in the US by the total number of units sold in the US you will come to 1% give or take. That is a correct statement that the person above had written. Now the main question is "How many of those fresh air units were actually sold to the public?" THE MATH THAT WE DID CLEARLY SHOWES THAT THERE ARE 650 THOUSAND PEOPLE OUTTHERE WITH 4 FRESH AIR UNITS IN THEIR OWN HOMES, SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER THEN THE TRUTH. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD WILL MAKE IT IN THIS WORLD, HOWEVER HARD WORKING PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO BE PROMISSED ONE THING AND SUCKERED INTO BUYING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE USELESS TO THEM. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE LIVING AIR UNITS, HOWEVER I DO HAVE A THING AGAINST THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS. I have to go now so if there are the people with 4 living air units outthere please post it on the web for everyone to see or work hard and buy yourself a 12000sq ft. home.

This for that guy that praises the Ecoquest. In his own words "hardly a saturated, 1%". I guess that means that only about 1 % of American population have those fresh air units, right? RIGHT. Well as he had written above there is a 650.000(sixvhundred and fifty thousand) independant reps for Ecoquest, right? RIGHT. Now lets say that all of them had bought 1 of those "success packages". Well, they do come with 4 living air units, right? RIGHT. So now we will multiply the 650.000 reps by a 4 units in each success pack,right? RIGHT. We get,what? 2.6 milion fresh air units on the market in the US alone, correct? CORRECT. Well how many people are there living in the us right now? Latest reports show about 250 milion. So when you divide the total number of people living in the US by the total number of units sold in the US you will come to 1% give or take. That is a correct statement that the person above had written. Now the main question is "How many of those fresh air units were actually sold to the public?" THE MATH THAT WE DID CLEARLY SHOWES THAT THERE ARE 650 THOUSAND PEOPLE OUTTHERE WITH 4 FRESH AIR UNITS IN THEIR OWN HOMES, SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER THEN THE TRUTH. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD WILL MAKE IT IN THIS WORLD, HOWEVER HARD WORKING PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO BE PROMISSED ONE THING AND SUCKERED INTO BUYING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE USELESS TO THEM. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE LIVING AIR UNITS, HOWEVER I DO HAVE A THING AGAINST THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS. I have to go now so if there are the people with 4 living air units outthere please post it on the web for everyone to see or work hard and buy yourself a 12000sq ft. home.

This for that guy that praises the Ecoquest. In his own words "hardly a saturated, 1%". I guess that means that only about 1 % of American population have those fresh air units, right? RIGHT. Well as he had written above there is a 650.000(sixvhundred and fifty thousand) independant reps for Ecoquest, right? RIGHT. Now lets say that all of them had bought 1 of those "success packages". Well, they do come with 4 living air units, right? RIGHT. So now we will multiply the 650.000 reps by a 4 units in each success pack,right? RIGHT. We get,what? 2.6 milion fresh air units on the market in the US alone, correct? CORRECT. Well how many people are there living in the us right now? Latest reports show about 250 milion. So when you divide the total number of people living in the US by the total number of units sold in the US you will come to 1% give or take. That is a correct statement that the person above had written. Now the main question is "How many of those fresh air units were actually sold to the public?" THE MATH THAT WE DID CLEARLY SHOWES THAT THERE ARE 650 THOUSAND PEOPLE OUTTHERE WITH 4 FRESH AIR UNITS IN THEIR OWN HOMES, SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER THEN THE TRUTH. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD WILL MAKE IT IN THIS WORLD, HOWEVER HARD WORKING PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO BE PROMISSED ONE THING AND SUCKERED INTO BUYING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE USELESS TO THEM. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE LIVING AIR UNITS, HOWEVER I DO HAVE A THING AGAINST THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS. I have to go now so if there are the people with 4 living air units outthere please post it on the web for everyone to see or work hard and buy yourself a 12000sq ft. home.

WOW! You just showed how ignorant you really are about this business! Hugh, I am really sorry but, what you have done is showed to everyone that you don't know squat about how to run a business. Also, the knowledge they will be equipped with is that you stepped in over your head, would not do what it takes to succeed, that you didn't read what you were doing, that you did not do any training, that you did not even go out to the EcoQuest site and obtain the dealer prices and don't even know what they are and were trying to do a business that you knew NOTHING about or even wanted to learn! You stated yet no one has so far mentioned a price. Had you done your business properly, YOU would have known what the distributor price of each unit is and you would NOT be putting this kind of garbage on the internet. The distributor price is available for EVERY distributor and if you do not know what it is then you didn't even start your business, much less do anything in it. You know as well as we do that it would not be ethical for us to be putting the dealer prices up here, that is just bad business so that is another slap in your face for NOT knowing what you were or are doing. I can see now with owning a restaurant why you had to use financing. You must run your restaurant the same way you were trying to run this business, with out any guidance or training. If you were successful with your restaurant, you would not have needed the BEST FINANCING that you had to use. I really feel you have made a great example of a person that is feeling their way thru life without having a clue as to what is going on. You also stated, claim their machine cleans up to 3000sqft they do IF one knows how to read the directions. You also stated they stick it in the bathroom, the bedroom, and the living room pointing it towards the kitchen.. This again shows you did not read anything about the units. Wow, can you read, maybe we need to go back to my other response where you need to learn English. To stick it in the bathroom is done on sanitize mode that does the extra cleaning to remove the mold and mildew that accumulates in a bathroom. If you are going to degrade something or someone or a company, you really need to get ALL your facts together BEFFORE you open your mouth or start typing. This only makes you look really bad. Anyone that can read the owners manual will know that you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about. You also state, If this remarkable machine could clean a whole house then why the differnt rooms. Should be different but who's checking. Again, had you read the material you were sent or even read the owners manual you would know the answer to this and would not show your ignorance by putting such a statement on the web for the whole world to see that you didn't even try to learn this business. Hugh, I am certainly glad this site offers both sides to be viewed as it does because fly by night people like you really cause a lot of problems for serious people. You don't try to learn what you are doing! You don't try to even understand a product you are trying to sell and with this in mind, this goes back to the statement you made earlier, I gave it six months following their coaching, and advice, spent alot of time and money advertizing, bought reccommended equipment to ensure success, and did word of mouth advertizing in my busy restaurant. Never once did I get any response, and even the well to do patrons at the restaurant felt $699.00 was too much an investment for a air purifier. Firstly, you really need to learn to use spell checker! Also, with what you have said, how can you sell anything when you don't know how it works, what it does, what the result should be or anything about your business? How can one do that? I can not and I don't know any people that would even try to sell something and not know anything about what they are doing. Basically, it goes back to my other rebuttal of you need to learn English and how to read directions because so far, the only thing you have showed is you don't know ANYTHING about a business!

The ultimate purpose of my complaint was to make anyone who read these articles to be aware of what goes on in a typical home base busines. It is not important for me to continue to defend myself against these wannabe wealthy distributors. At least I know that if you read these article first and you were offered the opportunity to join EcoQuest International, You would be equipped with some knowledge and not be taken in by promises of wealth. If you note, that all of the rebuttal claim I am mistaken about the cost of $600.00 per unit, yet no one has so far mentioned a price. It is also my belief that my complaint is begining to hurt the company, and so as a result they are fighting back by telling distributors to respond. They think if it is lop sided people will believe them and not me. The point is I have successfully expose a company and that was my ultimate mission. This will be my final response. Last but not least, they claim their machine cleans up to 3000sqft yet when they go out to demonstrate in homes, they stick it in the bathroom,the bedroom, and the living room pointing it towards the kitchen. If this remarkable machine could clean a whole house then why the differnt rooms. My machine was great in the begining until I got used to the smell, and then nothing. I would never waste my hard earned dollars for something worthless. It is no better than its cheaper counterparts. goodbye all and good luck.

Hugh, Don't you think it is a slight strange that you are the only one that has reported anything bad about Best Finance out of the thousands that use it for its ZERO interest? Best finance is used by ECO Quest to allow people that do not have the money to invest into a business to have the ability to do so and start their own business with zero interest. Hugh, had you listened to the teaching and all the training calls that are available thru ECO Quest, you would have been able to do your business correctly and not fallen flat as you did. When you started your restaurant, did you just do it or did you take training or work in another restaurant to have the ability to run one. Look at McDonalds, if you buy a franchise from McDonalds, you MUST go take their training before you can even open the doors. That is called duplication and that is why when you go to ANY McDonalds, they are ALL run the same because they use the training that works. I couldn't imagine me stepping into a restaurant and running that with NO training and not following what has worked for previous successful owners. I would want to find out what made their business successful and how they did it. Maybe taking the best practices of several different successful restaurants and taking the best from all and applying it to my restaurant. This business in ECO Quest is the same way, you train from the people that made it work and listen to their great wisdom and then put it to use. Then if something fails, you find out what and why and correct it, you don't just condemn it because it didn't work for YOU. Obviously if others are making it work and you are not then I would examine what I am doing wrong and see how others are doing it right and follow those steps. But hey, that is just me. When I came into ECO Quest, there was NO guarantee about anything other than the product would do what it is stated to do. I purchased one, tested it, tried it and it did that and more so YES, it is worth every penny it sells for! I replaced TWO SHARPER IMAGE towers in a single room that was NOT doing what they said it would do, with one Fresh Air Unit. I smoke and the Sharper Image did not even touch cleaning the air in my office with 2 of them in there. Hugh, I sure hope you run your restaurant a lot more dedicated and better than you did this business and please, do not get into any more at home business unless you totally understand what you are going to be done and take the training to actually do it!

More lies from Hugh.. People, understand Ecoquest is a private company. With that said, we DO NOT have to publicize our income earnings like a company which is traded among the public... Yet we do: http://www.ecoquestintl.com/dlrdown/website_forms/incomedisclosure.pdf. Take note: We show our "average manager" bonus salaries. And yes, our average managers also get $800.00/month for a car allowance. How much plainer can it be Hugh?? I am frusterated at your willingness to expose half-truths over and over again. We are a credible business, with a credible product, and a credible opportunity. In fact just last week the front page of the Business Section of the Chicago Tribune published a full article about the sales of air purifiers. Our company president was quoted several times. Why? Because we are the leaders of this industry. Our company founders decided that the best, most profitable way to market an air purifier was through the meand of multi-level marketing. Hugh, I'm glad you've moved on to "better things." I hope another business opportunity doesn't cross your path the wrong way. I would hate to see you represent them the same way you've represented Ecoquest.

First of all, Ditto Toby and Mary! It is these type of people that cause a bad name for good company's because they either can't read or follow directions and/or they have zero ambition but yet want the results. The units he is referring to does NOT cost the dealer $600.00 or we would make no profit on them after shipping etc.. I have dealt with these type of people for the last 20 years with different network marketing plans. Most network marketing plans are ok, just some are better than others and ECO Quest has the best plan that I have been involved in. Like Mary stated, Hugh needs to understand a business; what it takes to run it; how to actually do the work; and then DO THE WORK and not bad mouth something just because you failed to follow the directions that were handed to you by people that have gained success from ECO Quest. Hugh, do you quit and give up to failure at everything you do?? Also, when you fail, do you always blame everyone else but yourself for "your" failure?? My kids use to do that when they were little, everything else was someone elses fault then they matured and understood reality.

This is Hugh, and I have moved on to bigger and better things. I am using my skills as a chef volunteering at Teen Challenge, My church, and the different organizations such as the missions board and mens ministry. Every one loves my cooking and it is by far the best gift God gave me. I will never waste my time and money in any home base business with promises of wealth. As I read those rebutals they claim Ecoquest never promise any wealth, yet one mention $6000.00 a month income plus a bonus car. These are the promises made to entice us. Well I have learned, and if I stupidly throw away my money on another get rich scheme I have no one to blame but myself. I work hard in my restaurant, and my customers love the food, the service and me. I have a lovely family and a lovely home, and most of all I have a great relationship with God.

I have been a distributor with the Company for just under one year. The company nor my upline ever promised me that it was going to be easy starting your business, but did Hugh do all the work that was required. I have done all the work required, training, advertising, etc. and am well on my way to being financially free. This is not a get rich quick business and if Hugh only gave "his plan" 6 months, then he failed himself, no one in the company failed him. Did he close up his restaurant when profits were down-no-because he had a vision for his restaurant far beyond the immediate. I believe that Hugh "jumped in with his eyes wide open" and obviously saw something positive with our company and technology, or the success pack would have never been shipped to him and also he was given a chance during a 10 day trial of our product and marketing materials to return them if he felt the company or the product was not right for him, no questions asked. He would have received his refund, but he continued to make a commitment by obtaining some equipment to go work with (as I am sure he had to purchase inventory for his restaurant before he opened the doors to the public). He had every opportunity to succeed, but received a few "nos" and decided it was not going to work for him personally. Would he give someone a free meal in his restaurant, after they ate the whole meal and then said it was bad (couldn't have been that bad if he ate all!!) That is what he is basically saying about Ecoquest. He tried it out liked the product and the opportunity, purchased a "success pack", received a few negative responses, then wanted the company to flip the bill on returning the products. THIS COMPANY DID NOTHING TO HUGH. HUGH TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND START PLACING BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS. I Love Ecoquest and the life changing benefits we have to offer in our products and our opportunity. I know of no other company, where you can casually retail a product and make $200 +/- profit, that is the uniqueness of our opportunity. Our products have been "certified in space" by NASA and we will be the featured technology for the 2005 NextGen House of the Future project at the 2005 International Builders show in Orlando. Enough said, one question left: Was it the Company that failed Hugh or was it Hugh who failed himself? Shame on you Hugh!!!

I have been a distributor with the Company for just under one year. The company nor my upline ever promised me that it was going to be easy starting your business, but did Hugh do all the work that was required. I have done all the work required, training, advertising, etc. and am well on my way to being financially free. This is not a get rich quick business and if Hugh only gave "his plan" 6 months, then he failed himself, no one in the company failed him. Did he close up his restaurant when profits were down-no-because he had a vision for his restaurant far beyond the immediate. I believe that Hugh "jumped in with his eyes wide open" and obviously saw something positive with our company and technology, or the success pack would have never been shipped to him and also he was given a chance during a 10 day trial of our product and marketing materials to return them if he felt the company or the product was not right for him, no questions asked. He would have received his refund, but he continued to make a commitment by obtaining some equipment to go work with (as I am sure he had to purchase inventory for his restaurant before he opened the doors to the public). He had every opportunity to succeed, but received a few "nos" and decided it was not going to work for him personally. Would he give someone a free meal in his restaurant, after they ate the whole meal and then said it was bad (couldn't have been that bad if he ate all!!) That is what he is basically saying about Ecoquest. He tried it out liked the product and the opportunity, purchased a "success pack", received a few negative responses, then wanted the company to flip the bill on returning the products. THIS COMPANY DID NOTHING TO HUGH. HUGH TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND START PLACING BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS. I Love Ecoquest and the life changing benefits we have to offer in our products and our opportunity. I know of no other company, where you can casually retail a product and make $200 +/- profit, that is the uniqueness of our opportunity. Our products have been "certified in space" by NASA and we will be the featured technology for the 2005 NextGen House of the Future project at the 2005 International Builders show in Orlando. Enough said, one question left: Was it the Company that failed Hugh or was it Hugh who failed himself? Shame on you Hugh!!!

I have been a distributor with the Company for just under one year. The company nor my upline ever promised me that it was going to be easy starting your business, but did Hugh do all the work that was required. I have done all the work required, training, advertising, etc. and am well on my way to being financially free. This is not a get rich quick business and if Hugh only gave "his plan" 6 months, then he failed himself, no one in the company failed him. Did he close up his restaurant when profits were down-no-because he had a vision for his restaurant far beyond the immediate. I believe that Hugh "jumped in with his eyes wide open" and obviously saw something positive with our company and technology, or the success pack would have never been shipped to him and also he was given a chance during a 10 day trial of our product and marketing materials to return them if he felt the company or the product was not right for him, no questions asked. He would have received his refund, but he continued to make a commitment by obtaining some equipment to go work with (as I am sure he had to purchase inventory for his restaurant before he opened the doors to the public). He had every opportunity to succeed, but received a few "nos" and decided it was not going to work for him personally. Would he give someone a free meal in his restaurant, after they ate the whole meal and then said it was bad (couldn't have been that bad if he ate all!!) That is what he is basically saying about Ecoquest. He tried it out liked the product and the opportunity, purchased a "success pack", received a few negative responses, then wanted the company to flip the bill on returning the products. THIS COMPANY DID NOTHING TO HUGH. HUGH TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND START PLACING BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS. I Love Ecoquest and the life changing benefits we have to offer in our products and our opportunity. I know of no other company, where you can casually retail a product and make $200 +/- profit, that is the uniqueness of our opportunity. Our products have been "certified in space" by NASA and we will be the featured technology for the 2005 NextGen House of the Future project at the 2005 International Builders show in Orlando. Enough said, one question left: Was it the Company that failed Hugh or was it Hugh who failed himself? Shame on you Hugh!!!

To the restaurant owner please stop misguiding others because of your own failures. I choose not to mention the exact cost because it's irrelevant to the purchaser of our technology. I will say this, Hugh is taking the total price of our "business in a box" at $2495.00 or as we call it, a Success Pack, and dividing it by four -- which happens to be the number of Fresh Air units in the kit. This is unfair and is I stated earlier a "half-truth". What Hugh is leaving out is another, best selling smaller unit which retails for $549.00, a $300.00 demonstration unit, a few hundred dollars worth of written material on the company, product and what not. Thank you Hugh for allowing your confusion to confuse others. As Hugh is misguiding others, I believe intentionally, I also have to except the reality that Hugh may have been misguided himself -- but NOT BY ECOQUEST. Hugh's title to his last reponse suggests to me that he does not understand network marketing or the market Ecoquest is involved. It is to this which I will close. 1) I can't speak of other MLM (Multi-level Marketing) groups which make claims of grandure and fortune. I can however, invite the reader to go to www.ecoquestintl.com and respond to the rip-off report if they can quote a single sentence suggesting a "promise of success" or anything like unto it. Let me save you the time by saying you can't because it's not there. Ecoquest does not promise success. It suggests success if people do what others have done. Which is a well known theory 'The Socratic Law of Constancy'. With that said I do believe some people try working it very hard and still fail. These numbers are far and few between but I have to say they exist. If people don't overcome their fear, it will overcome them. The second point to #1 is that I also have to except the reality that Hugh's upline promised him success -- which is a real mistake. His upline, does not and can not speak on behalf of Ecoquest International. With that said, as Hugh is a successful business owner already, he should of known or seen through their promise. No business venture is a guarantee. Every business owner knows this including Hugh. 2) To Hugh's claim of "saturation" I ask to what percent of American households have we sold out units? Answer: less than 1%. Hardly a saturation Hugh. I run my business from my home in Portland, OR. I conduct my business all over the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and will be in several parts of Europe shortly. I know of hundreds of dealers in Florida. No dealer is restricted to a geographic area. Ecoquest does not stamp people to a confined space. It's too bad Hugh was not exposed to this. He is confusing , and thus confusing others, as to the will and wishes of the company vs. that of his upline. 3) Uplines. The design of MLM is such that if you build your business hard in the beginning you work less in the end. This is true of any business really. Do you think life for Ray Kroc got harder or easier after he opened his third thousandth restuarant and had tens of thousands of Managers to delegate the needs of the business? Hugh made no mention of business building, which is ok. There are a handful of dealers who make a million a year from retail sales. I say a handful of hundreds of thousands of dealers world-wide. Making a fortune retailing is hard work and requires a full-time active commitment to the science. 4) Hugh's method. Hugh's approach seemed passive at best -- which, due to the popularity level of indoor air purification, does not work. People will not buy our product if they don't try it in their home. I allow all my customers to try the product 7 to 10 days before making a purchasing decision. $700.00 is not an issue after they experience it first hand. Our Fresh Air product which retails for $699.00 covers 3000 sqft. Compare that to the popular Sharper Image technology we see on TV: The Ionic Breeze which covers a seventh that space and costs $350.00. Which one would you buy? To summarize, Hugh has obviously been mislead. He had a chance to rebut my claim with reality and still chose to lie about his business kit purchase. His words, however poignant, to some are damaging I am sure. If one has been mislead they have the responsibility to be able to dicifer between fact and fiction. This is where our restuarant owner has miserably failed. I believe he holds a grudge and wants to do his part in steering people away from Ecoquest and other MLM's. Thank you Hugh for your contribution.

I would like to respond to certain points mentioned in the rebuttal. First the cost of $600. for each Fresh Air machine to the dealers, I note while this amount was denied, no amount was mentioned as the actual cost. The reason because it does cost $600.00 and I have all my documents to prove it. Secondly, there was mention that it cost a company certain expense to clean and bring back to value for resale, plus cost for restocking and that this is an understanding practice by any company. What I guess I failed to mention was the items I returned were brand new, never taken from their original packaging. So if thats the case what cost could ever be incurred by any company to resell these items. Third of all, I am a successful restaurant manager, with a good salary and great benefits who was looking for a home based busines to fill my off time energy. It was their great promises of bonuses and success which enticed me to want more, but at no time was I impatient or money hungry to want success over night. I gave it six months following their coaching, and advice, spent alot of time and money advertizing, bought reccommended equipment to ensure success, and did word of mouth advertizing in my busy restaurant. Never once did I get any response, and even the well to do patrons at the restaurant felt $699.00 was too much an investment for a air purifier. Their response was open your window and let the fresh air in. I had to purchase one for myself and after using for six months, It needs a new lamp and parts are only available thru the mail. I just turn off the machine and it is now gathering dust. Since then I have found other ex- distributers who could not sell and their machine is also gathering dust. To all readers, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ABOUT ANY HOME BASE BUSINESS. THE BIG WINNERS ARE THE TOP PEOPLE, BY THE TIME IT TRICKLE DOWN TO THE MAJORITY THE MARKET IS ALREADY SATURATED AND THE TOP PEOPLE NO LONGER MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM SELLING THE EQUIPMENT, THEY MAKE IT OFF UNSUSPECTING SUCKERS LIKE OURSELVES.

Wow!! I've been with Ecoquest for quite a while and being as large as we are (650,000 indepedent dealers), there are a few people who get excited, order equipment, perhaps work a little, get frusterated because being in business is hard, then quit. To be direct in my response I will say this: 1) These machines cost a brand new dealer far less than $600.00 -- that is a lie!! 2) Yes our main technology the Fresh Air by Ecoquest retails for $699.00. It covers a 3000 sqft. house effectively. Compare to a Sharper Image Ionic Breeze which costs $350.00 and does 500 sqft. Which one would you buy? 3) Yes of course there is costs involved with returning equipment. Could the author expect less? Ecoquest is a debt free company. When a machine is returned it has to be cleaned, reinspected, updated to current standards of technology repackaged in new packaging. All this and labor costs money. The author should be lucky that there is only a 10% restocking fee. I think it should be more. Finally I want to say that no company is perfect. We all have our weaknesses. If you can find a network marketing company where an AVERAGE Sales Manager earns $6,000/month + an $800/monhtly bonus for any new car you want let me know? Ecoquest is a company of integrity. The author is exagerating their claim. If you want to recover from this misdirection feel free to contact me. Toby Mendenhall Ecoquest Intl Independent Consultant Portland, OR 97230

Wow!! I've been with Ecoquest for quite a while and being as large as we are (650,000 indepedent dealers), there are a few people who get excited, order equipment, perhaps work a little, get frusterated because being in business is hard, then quit. To be direct in my response I will say this: 1) These machines cost a brand new dealer far less than $600.00 -- that is a lie!! 2) Yes our main technology the Fresh Air by Ecoquest retails for $699.00. It covers a 3000 sqft. house effectively. Compare to a Sharper Image Ionic Breeze which costs $350.00 and does 500 sqft. Which one would you buy? 3) Yes of course there is costs involved with returning equipment. Could the author expect less? Ecoquest is a debt free company. When a machine is returned it has to be cleaned, reinspected, updated to current standards of technology repackaged in new packaging. All this and labor costs money. The author should be lucky that there is only a 10% restocking fee. I think it should be more. Finally I want to say that no company is perfect. We all have our weaknesses. If you can find a network marketing company where an AVERAGE Sales Manager earns $6,000/month + an $800/monhtly bonus for any new car you want let me know? Ecoquest is a company of integrity. The author is exagerating their claim. If you want to recover from this misdirection feel free to contact me. Toby Mendenhall Ecoquest Intl Independent Consultant Portland, OR 97230

Wow!! I've been with Ecoquest for quite a while and being as large as we are (650,000 indepedent dealers), there are a few people who get excited, order equipment, perhaps work a little, get frusterated because being in business is hard, then quit. To be direct in my response I will say this: 1) These machines cost a brand new dealer far less than $600.00 -- that is a lie!! 2) Yes our main technology the Fresh Air by Ecoquest retails for $699.00. It covers a 3000 sqft. house effectively. Compare to a Sharper Image Ionic Breeze which costs $350.00 and does 500 sqft. Which one would you buy? 3) Yes of course there is costs involved with returning equipment. Could the author expect less? Ecoquest is a debt free company. When a machine is returned it has to be cleaned, reinspected, updated to current standards of technology repackaged in new packaging. All this and labor costs money. The author should be lucky that there is only a 10% restocking fee. I think it should be more. Finally I want to say that no company is perfect. We all have our weaknesses. If you can find a network marketing company where an AVERAGE Sales Manager earns $6,000/month + an $800/monhtly bonus for any new car you want let me know? Ecoquest is a company of integrity. The author is exagerating their claim. If you want to recover from this misdirection feel free to contact me. Toby Mendenhall Ecoquest Intl Independent Consultant Portland, OR 97230