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Complaint Review: COLLINS HEAVY HAUL TIM AND PENNY COLLINS - Gainesville Missouri
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DECKER TRANSPORTATION SERVICES -
MEDFORD, Oregon, United States
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COLLINS HEAVY HAUL TIM AND PENNY COLLINS
PO BOX 79 Gainesville, 65609 Missouri, United States
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800-382-1834
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COLLINS HEAVY HAUL, TIM AND PENNY COLLINS TIM AND PENNY COLLINS, OWNERS OF COLLINS HEAVY HAUL Hired Collins to breakdown and haul 3 pieces of equipment, They did 2 and refused to do the 3rd even though they were pre-paid to do all 3. Gainesville Missouri
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The signed agreement was to deliver 3 machine for $45000.00. 1st payment of $15000 in advance, second payment once machines were torn down. We paid the first 2 payments of $15000.00. then over a month went by with no return e-mails and no return phone calls, obviously avoiding talking to me. During that time Collins had the second machione in route (280 miles) for over a month. Durinmg that tme Tim finally called me and said " I have delivered the D9, I will deliver4 the Tigercat but without the last payme3nt I am not doing no more"
Tim Collins basically forced us to make the4 last payment against the agreement. We paid him the last payment by wire transfer. Once he recieved the last payment he refused to finish the job. This is obviously Fraud, e-mail fraud and wire fraud.
Services were no rendered on the 3rd machine so we had to hire other sources and vendors to complet the Job
Our costs for completing the job ourselves was $24,762.50
We have asked for a refund for services not rendered on the 3rd machine without any responce.
3 Updates & Rebuttals
ALAN
MEDFORD,Oregon,
United States
You have said plenty, Thank you!
#2Author of original report
Fri, February 02, 2018
Your rebutal has enough lies in it to support my case...reason.. I have documentation to prove what I say and you have nothing but your lies. GOOD LUCK!
ALAN
MEDFORD,United States
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#3Author of original report
Thu, February 01, 2018
These are just more fabricated stories and lies by Collins.
Tim
Gainesville,Missouri,
United States
The Way It Is. First of all you will find attached the original agreement between Decker Transportation and Collins Heavy Haul.
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, February 01, 2018
Before this agreement was signed we provided Decker with our insurance. It was agreed upon at that time we would start on this as soon as we could, there was no timeline. It also was verbally discussed that the D9 and the Cat 590 ran but the Kamatsu did not. Sometime before Thanksgiving we went to Shippensport. We hired Ohio Cat to take the D9 and the 590 apart. Cat could not get the 590 to run and spent quit some time trying to get it to run. Mr Decker was made aware that it did not run along with the power plant. Mr Decker told us to do whatever we had to do and he would make it right. This machine was in a coal pit and Cat could not get the parts out so we had to do it ourselves in about two foot of coal mud and extremely cold conditions. It took about twelve hours of non stop labor to do so. This was not part of the agreement because the machine was suppose to run therefor we was suppose to be able to get it to an area where we could work on it. This was a 160,000lb machine same machine as a Cat 990. Most people won’t know what a 590 is. We took all the parts off of the D9 and the 590, which was stepdeck loads and delivered it to Pikeville, KY. We went straight back to Stratton, Oh to load the Kamatsu with an eight axel trailer. Upon arrival I then called Rick, who is the supervisor of the Stratton First Energy plant. I told him I was there to load the Kamatsu and he informed me I needed to call Becky Albright with JJ Cain Auctioners. I called her and she informed me that I need to deal with Sean Sluggo Who’s phone number is 412-719-6276. Sean wanted a copy of our insurance so I sent it to him. At this point we had a twelve axle in Shippensport ready to load the 590. Mr Decker called us irate because we had talked to this auctioneer guy.
This is where everything started going bad. Come to find out Mr Decker had been lying to Sean about how much insurance we had. Apparently He was suppose to have two million in liability insurance and we only had a million. Our general liability insurance also did not meet their requirements either and Mr Decker knew full well what we had. Here we are stuck for about three weeks in the middle of this along with who was taking responsibility for the 590 not running which was an extremely big ordeal do to the location of the machine and the circumstances Surrounding it. A 300 ton crane could not have reached in there and lifted it out of where it was at. It took about three weeks to get all of this worked out. After about the first week we were ready to be done with this whole thing. We had been paid some money so we couldn’t just walk away even though we wanted to.
The insurance situation caused a lot of problems and after they found out Decker had lied to them they raised it from two million to four million on requirements before anyone could come back in and load the machines. What we finally had to do is have Selinsky Force out of Canton, Oh take our trailers in to the plant, we load them and they take our trailers out. Basically we had to go in under their insurance. We were pretty upset by this time and pretty well done. Decker assured us that if we Went back in there and they didnt do what they said this time that we would just call it even and wouldn’t owe a dime. He also told us that once we got the 590 loaded up and got it delivered they would make it right for all our time. The plan was according to Mr Decker that First Energy would Drag the machine out to the road and assist us in loading it. That’s not the way it went down. First Energy drug the machine out to the road but that was all they did. We had to dig a ditch under the machine and manually rig the machine. It took two full days daylight to dark to get it loaded Once again breaking the agreement. At this point we had both machines out of there and at this point Mr Decker was suppose to pay Selinsky Force for their time and had not. This is the way it pretty much ended it all. This was right before Christmas and we took our personal vehicles home to Missouri for Christmas. The Friday before Christmas Decker calls us on the phone and wanted me to find somewhere to drop then 590 and go get the Kamatsu out of there or they were going to auction it off Saturday before Christmas. That’s when we told him he needs to find someone else to go do it. Mr Decker would call us 30 times a day and we would answer 30 times a day. We were tired of dealing with him in the end. He owes us an extremely large amount of money for our time and labor and has not agreed to make it right with us. He filed a ripoff report on Selinsky Force the same day he filed one on us and said they took “his” trailers into a job, they were not his trailers they were our trailers. He said he paid them in advance on the job with us which is not true, he did not pay them in advance. They had to fight and fight with him to get him to pay them after they had done the job. That’s why they made him pay them in full before they did the job in Ohio. We have nothing else to say about this matter.
