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  • Report:  #561678

Complaint Review: commercialleads.net llc - Jacksonville Florida

Reported By:
Lance - Phoenix, Arizona, Afghanistan
Submitted:
Updated:

commercialleads.net llc
3948 3rd Street South #349 Jacksonville, 32250 Florida, United States of America
Phone:
8886771421
Web:
www.commercialleads.net
Categories:
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
This company is a sham. Check their address, it is a UPS Store. 3948 3rd Street South #349 Jacksonville, FL 32250 (look it up!!)

Brad Thomas portrays the company as some major operation containing several different divisions, legal, admin, operations, cs, etc. I have asked him where all these people are as they can't fit in the UPS Store. I believe commercialleads.net, llc is a one or two person operation with some information pointing to computer services being provided by Pakistani individuals (however I cannot positively prove this).

Thomas is a smooth salesman and contacted me regarding the purchase of commercial loan modification leads. He told me I had to wire funds and they had to be wired quickly to get a "discount". I know better, but for whatever reason I sent the d**n wire. When I started doing my due diligence I realized I had made a big mistake.

Thomas and Commericalleads.net llc claim the company started in 2000. There are press releases by the company stating exactly this. I pulled the SofS records for the company in Florida. They formed June 18, 2007. Go to www.sunbiz.gov and look them up. When I asked Thomas about the discrepancy instead of providing some reasonable explanation, he blew me off. It was at this point I decided to dig a little deeper.

In 2009 commercialleads.net, llc was suspended for failure to file an annual report. Although they were reinstated, this is a mistake no legitimate company would make. They would have been unable to conduct business during the suspended period. This can only mean they didn't have any business and this should be a big red flag to anyone considering doing business with these people. Additionally, this is why they don't guarantee any lead volume (because they don't have any legitimate volume or leads as far as I can tell). They offer you a money back warranty if you don't close 2 deals. However, if you don't get any sort of volume of leads you can never meet the terms of the money back guarantee. I would bet NO ONE has ever gotten a refund.

Commericalleads.net, llc sells 'leads' for a variety of purposes pursuant to its website. I paid $1500 in advance (never pre-pay for something like this) to receive 37 leads who are purportedly interested in commercial loan modification. I started 12/15/2009 and as of 1/27/2010 I have received 3 so called 'leads'. One guy wanted a 90% cash out refinance on a C property he had owned 6 months, one guy told me he had this taken care of and hung up on me (although I called him the very next morning after receiving a lead), the third has a disconnected cell phone and I have left 4 messages for him at his work phone without a response. O yea, i did receive a fourth lead, both phone numbers were disconnected and the area codes didn't even exist in the United States. Thomas specifically told me all leads are verified for phone numbers prior to release. Ooops? At this rate if I allow one of these deals to qualify as a 'lead' it will take me 4.6 years to get 37 leads. By that time I am sure the PO Box location will be moved to a van down by the river.

Their leads are garbage and they are deceptive. I am filing a complaint with the Florida Attorney General's office but because of there staffing and the small amount of money involved, it likely will be recorded and just sit. I will also file with the FTC but don't expect any better response from the Federal Government.

I would caution you against doing any business with this group. I have done a fair amount of investigation in the past, and all the red flags are present here.

commercialleads.net, llc pulled the State of Montana Bar records on me from 1995 showing I am a suspended attorney (I was suspended for not keeping up my Continuing Legal Education credits up. I had decided not to practice law so never updated. I can take some CLE classes and get my license back anytime). The real issue however, is when you pay money to someone and are unhappy and start making an issue, and they research YOU, it means they have concerns and want to know what kind of trouble you can bring them. Thomas told me if I file a complaint that my leads would be shut off. Does that make sense?? It isn't legal either.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

RedStone

Stafford Springs,
Connecticut,
United States of America
Closed Loans from Leads

#2Consumer Comment

Fri, March 23, 2012

Has anyone that has worked with this company Commercialleads.net actually closed a loan using one of their leads?


Rich

Palm Harbor,
Florida,
USA
Brad Thomas is the Fraudster

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, August 11, 2011

As you can see there are several reports including mine on this website as well as others regarding Mr. Thomas's erroneous activities.  Nearly every time a complaint is filed against him he seems to find the time to investigate the company filing the report instead of making his client happy.

This is just more proof that Brad Thomas is scamming people.  If he was interested in creating happy clients he would be selling a successful program instead of passing his company off as some large business having many employees.  He would also do what he can to satisfy the many complaints he has received instead of spending his time trying to find fault in others and use that as his defense.

Brad Thomas and CommercialLeads.net is currently being investigated in Florida.  I advise anyone considering doing business with him do contact me before doing so.  I will give any information I have and direct you to the agents which are investigating him.

I can be reached at seven 2 seven, seven seven 6, 2 nine seven nine.  Feel free to contact me at any time.

Richard Olson


Rich

Palm Harbor,
Florida,
United States of America
Also Ripped off

#4Consumer Comment

Thu, July 14, 2011

The story of the Plaintiff is consistent with my experience as well as others dealing with Mr. Brad Thomas. 

Brad Thomas points blame at others trying to steer blame from himself.  As can be seen from the many Rippoff reports regarding Commercialleads.net, there isn't only just one or two complaints but many with nearly the exact problems.

I personally have filed a complaint with the Florida Office of Financial Regulation in Tallahassee Florida.  Their contact number is 1-800-848-3792

If you do have already have an issue with this company I suggest you also file a complaint.


Rich

Palm Harbor,
Florida,
United States of America
Report Complaint

#5Consumer Suggestion

Thu, June 16, 2011

I also reported my experience with commercialleads.net here on the ripoffreport.com.



I contacted the Florida Office of Financial Regulation which was recently given the task to investigate companies such as
commercialleads.net and their less than ethical activities.



If you're interested in contacting me you can reach me at (((ROR redacted))) and please read my report.



Rich

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Franklin

USA
Completely False Report -

#6UPDATE Employee

Mon, February 08, 2010

Mr. Herndon Signed up on 12/8. After a full week of due diligence he chose to proceed and did so on 12/15. He received ALL of his training materials within 1 hour of his payment and was trained on the same day. His account is brand new. The system offered him 5 leads the first few days of which he took only 2 and had an issue with 1 for which he was  credited as per the policy.

Mr. Herndon is incorrect about the company. The company has in fact been in business for 10 years and went online in 2005 with the most robust application to date for the commercial real estate and finance industry.

That Mr. Herndon doesn't understand the structure or nature of the business is not a failing on our part.

He filed this complaint because he wanted to get the money back once AFTER he received the materials and training not found any where else. He had not disputed the quality of the training or materials received at any point to date.

It should be noted that his legal license is suspended. He states it is because he didn't complete continuing education classes. His broker license is also "inactive".

He posted this ROR noting he was in Phoenix, AZ but his account address is in the state of Washington and his licenses (suspended and Inactive) are both from the state of Montana.

While reports like this are unfortunate there is little  a company can do to stop someone like Mr. Herndon from using the web as a bully pulpit.

Please contact us if you have any questions.

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