amirla84
United States of America#2Consumer Comment
Mon, February 15, 2010
read the title. is says "edc is/was the biggest scam in the history of internet marketing"
the owner is craig garcia. he is the biggest scammer i have ever come in contact with.
i bet he is back in his little shop in oceanside selling peanuts. loser
Drailroad
SANTA ANA,#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, September 13, 2008
John - FIRST, WE HOPE THAT YOU (or any other EDC investor) READ THIS ENTIRE POSTING - IT IS WORTH IT FOR YOUR FINANCIAL WELL BEING and PEACE OF MIND. Although we have reviewed EDC Diamond, we have not enrolled in this program yet. This is aimed at aiding you in recouping your investment in EDC. First, since legal action (possibly resulting in litigation) may not be a viable option, consider taking Craig Garcia up on his offer for his personal intervention, as publicly offered on this blog. If you've already invested money with this company, what would you have to lose, other than eating a little humble pie (and then, if you do come out ahead, wouldn't it - a tiny humility - have been worth it?)? One of the reasons we have held off on this investment (?) is because of TOO many UNKNOWN variables. One of those unknown variables (amongst MANY) is the true cost of MARKETING this program for successful returns? Obviously, if you research online businesses, you will find that the truly successful ones are very diligent about CONSTANTLY promoting their sites within the various search engines. Admittedly EDC will not discuss this, it would seem to us, until AFTER you have become a member. Although prospective members may typically be told, as we had been, that you don't have to pay anything for Search Engine Optimization (SEO) or, "marketing," (EDC suggests that free, traditional print media such as Craig's List, etc can be used) in reality, all online business require ongoing SEO maintenance and updates. True, you can STILL "market" your business through free SEO's but it will take longer to see the results. That is probably what Mr. Garcia was alluding to in his rebuttal when he referred to possibly taking several months. Businesses within this industry, such as EDC for example, that see substantial financial results within a VERY SHORT time frame are the ones that AGGRESSIVELY market their products, services or sites with various SEO's, requiring an additional cash investment BEYOND your initial investment. If you do not have the resources to access these Search Engines or know how to EFFECTIVELY use them, I believe (again, we could not get a definite answer on this one from EDC) that EDC can provide you with the SEO resources BUT, AGAIN, you may have to pay for these. John, as your neighbor to the south (the "Orange Curtain!") I have to tell you, that using derogatory remarks and "light" profanity do not help give your posting credibility. It would almost seem to many that I have shown this to, that you are very angry and highly emotional about this. Furthermore, I will give the young Mr. Garcia this: working for corporate America will NOT help you become wealthy or offer you the freedom from the overwhelming, stifling bureaucracy of the disparaging corporate environment. Given this, quite possibly YOU are not cut out to be an entrepreneur. Conversely, I STILL STRONGLY recommend taking Garcia's offer to personally help you. I will agree, Craig Garcia may come across a little arrogant but, come on John, quite honestly we live in an environment (Southern Cal - ESPECIALLY the SOUTH BAY!!) of perceivably arrogant individuals. I believe that perspective is ALL a matter of perception. Regardless, putting this perceived arrogance aside (btw, arrogance is typically due to insecurity of one form or another - JUST food for thought!), if you can just take a deep breath, call Garcia and tell him that you need help in recouping your investment, who knows, you MIGHT even find yourself generating an ADDITIONAL income! So, John, take a deep breath, smile, call Garcia AND keep a POSITIVE ATTITUDE (FYI,smiling while your either talking with someone on the phone or emailing them helps you keep from blowing your cool!). One final suggestion: if you cannot get over your discomfort in dealing with Craig Garcia and have had negative experiences with other EDC "upline" members, ask Craig if you can be transferred to another member. One EDC member that I have communicated with extensively and who has been very supportive and POSITIVE over the last several months (remember we are NOT members yet) is a gentleman by the name of Michael Frost. And, of all things, get this, he's IN NEW YORK! Go figure. Again, I would not let my initial investment just simply "rot" away by GIVING UP. Remember though, if you are unwilling to invest additional funds in marketing your site through effective SEO's then, as Craig Garcia said, IT MAY TAKE LONGER. If their is one thing that I would like to see changed about EDC's marketing methodologies or, "sales pitch," it would be just that: if you intend on making a LOT of money in a short time frame then anticipate on investing a lot more in marketing, SEO or . . . ADVERTISING (Search Engines!!). This stuff is no different than any other business - to be highly successful YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE (Search Engines)!! Now, GO GET YOUR MONEY! And if you don't, we're taking "donations!" :>) Your neighbor and supporter to the South - DW, Santa Ana, CA
Drailroad
SANTA ANA,#4Consumer Suggestion
Sat, September 13, 2008
John - FIRST, WE HOPE THAT YOU (or any other EDC investor) READ THIS ENTIRE POSTING - IT IS WORTH IT FOR YOUR FINANCIAL WELL BEING and PEACE OF MIND. Although we have reviewed EDC Diamond, we have not enrolled in this program yet. This is aimed at aiding you in recouping your investment in EDC. First, since legal action (possibly resulting in litigation) may not be a viable option, consider taking Craig Garcia up on his offer for his personal intervention, as publicly offered on this blog. If you've already invested money with this company, what would you have to lose, other than eating a little humble pie (and then, if you do come out ahead, wouldn't it - a tiny humility - have been worth it?)? One of the reasons we have held off on this investment (?) is because of TOO many UNKNOWN variables. One of those unknown variables (amongst MANY) is the true cost of MARKETING this program for successful returns? Obviously, if you research online businesses, you will find that the truly successful ones are very diligent about CONSTANTLY promoting their sites within the various search engines. Admittedly EDC will not discuss this, it would seem to us, until AFTER you have become a member. Although prospective members may typically be told, as we had been, that you don't have to pay anything for Search Engine Optimization (SEO) or, "marketing," (EDC suggests that free, traditional print media such as Craig's List, etc can be used) in reality, all online business require ongoing SEO maintenance and updates. True, you can STILL "market" your business through free SEO's but it will take longer to see the results. That is probably what Mr. Garcia was alluding to in his rebuttal when he referred to possibly taking several months. Businesses within this industry, such as EDC for example, that see substantial financial results within a VERY SHORT time frame are the ones that AGGRESSIVELY market their products, services or sites with various SEO's, requiring an additional cash investment BEYOND your initial investment. If you do not have the resources to access these Search Engines or know how to EFFECTIVELY use them, I believe (again, we could not get a definite answer on this one from EDC) that EDC can provide you with the SEO resources BUT, AGAIN, you may have to pay for these. John, as your neighbor to the south (the "Orange Curtain!") I have to tell you, that using derogatory remarks and "light" profanity do not help give your posting credibility. It would almost seem to many that I have shown this to, that you are very angry and highly emotional about this. Furthermore, I will give the young Mr. Garcia this: working for corporate America will NOT help you become wealthy or offer you the freedom from the overwhelming, stifling bureaucracy of the disparaging corporate environment. Given this, quite possibly YOU are not cut out to be an entrepreneur. Conversely, I STILL STRONGLY recommend taking Garcia's offer to personally help you. I will agree, Craig Garcia may come across a little arrogant but, come on John, quite honestly we live in an environment (Southern Cal - ESPECIALLY the SOUTH BAY!!) of perceivably arrogant individuals. I believe that perspective is ALL a matter of perception. Regardless, putting this perceived arrogance aside (btw, arrogance is typically due to insecurity of one form or another - JUST food for thought!), if you can just take a deep breath, call Garcia and tell him that you need help in recouping your investment, who knows, you MIGHT even find yourself generating an ADDITIONAL income! So, John, take a deep breath, smile, call Garcia AND keep a POSITIVE ATTITUDE (FYI,smiling while your either talking with someone on the phone or emailing them helps you keep from blowing your cool!). One final suggestion: if you cannot get over your discomfort in dealing with Craig Garcia and have had negative experiences with other EDC "upline" members, ask Craig if you can be transferred to another member. One EDC member that I have communicated with extensively and who has been very supportive and POSITIVE over the last several months (remember we are NOT members yet) is a gentleman by the name of Michael Frost. And, of all things, get this, he's IN NEW YORK! Go figure. Again, I would not let my initial investment just simply "rot" away by GIVING UP. Remember though, if you are unwilling to invest additional funds in marketing your site through effective SEO's then, as Craig Garcia said, IT MAY TAKE LONGER. If their is one thing that I would like to see changed about EDC's marketing methodologies or, "sales pitch," it would be just that: if you intend on making a LOT of money in a short time frame then anticipate on investing a lot more in marketing, SEO or . . . ADVERTISING (Search Engines!!). This stuff is no different than any other business - to be highly successful YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE (Search Engines)!! Now, GO GET YOUR MONEY! And if you don't, we're taking "donations!" :>) Your neighbor and supporter to the South - DW, Santa Ana, CA
Craig
Oceanside,#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, September 13, 2008
Mathew or John, or whoever you are....It's appearant that you are trying to be as vendictive as possible. All you really doing is attacking me and my company and we are not really getting anywhere... You obviously know several members in the organization, so must have had help form some of these people. Otherwise, how would you even know them? I mean know them well enough to bash them for trying to help you. You obvisoulsy have my phone number since you posted it here, so if you ever had a problem, why aren't we talking abou it? We do training classes daily, I'd like to know how many you have attended? How long were you trying this business? Did you know there are over 200 recorded training classes with the best of the best training. Did you realize we have live customer service Monday - Friday from 9 AM to 9 PM? If you are just learning marketing, then it may take several months for you to drive enough traffic to your website to make your first sale. It usually depends on what you are selling and the price vs the number of visitors to your website. I noticed you living in LA, Every Tuesday starting in October, in San Diego, I am starting a workshop where members can spend half a day with me personally. Bring your laptop and really let me teach you how to market. Maybe ther webinar and recorded trainings aren't working for your style of learning. Maybe this hands on, "Show Me" approach will work for you. I invite you to come. No cost to you. email me at [email protected] Seriously, No hard feelings about the article....Let's get get you marketing and making money. Sincerely, Craig Garcia
Casper75
Ouyen,#6Consumer Comment
Thu, September 04, 2008
Hey John, I was a victim of EDC & the people involved are rude & arrogant & It's not just the founders but also the so-called sponsors who take your money & run, if you do a search of EDC on this site you will see a detailed review which I wrote about this scam also it's not a good idea to type you blogs in all CAPS because it's a bit hard to read & I'll also suggest that you actually write what happened to you when you signed up that way you can share your experience with others about what you had to deal with when you signed up.
Casper75
Ouyen,#7Consumer Comment
Thu, September 04, 2008
Hey John, I was a victim of EDC & the people involved are rude & arrogant & It's not just the founders but also the so-called sponsors who take your money & run, if you do a search of EDC on this site you will see a detailed review which I wrote about this scam also it's not a good idea to type you blogs in all CAPS because it's a bit hard to read & I'll also suggest that you actually write what happened to you when you signed up that way you can share your experience with others about what you had to deal with when you signed up.
Casper75
Ouyen,#8Consumer Comment
Thu, September 04, 2008
Hey John, I was a victim of EDC & the people involved are rude & arrogant & It's not just the founders but also the so-called sponsors who take your money & run, if you do a search of EDC on this site you will see a detailed review which I wrote about this scam also it's not a good idea to type you blogs in all CAPS because it's a bit hard to read & I'll also suggest that you actually write what happened to you when you signed up that way you can share your experience with others about what you had to deal with when you signed up.
Casper75
Ouyen,#9Consumer Comment
Thu, September 04, 2008
Hey John, I was a victim of EDC & the people involved are rude & arrogant & It's not just the founders but also the so-called sponsors who take your money & run, if you do a search of EDC on this site you will see a detailed review which I wrote about this scam also it's not a good idea to type you blogs in all CAPS because it's a bit hard to read & I'll also suggest that you actually write what happened to you when you signed up that way you can share your experience with others about what you had to deal with when you signed up.