Complaint Review: John Beck - Provo Utah

Hey there Doreen, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. You are absolutely correct, when stating, that these businesses are not upfront about their dealings. Actually this statement is putting it very lightly. These so called "mentoring" programs, are nothing but scams, and John Beck's in particular is perhaps the most trashiest of them all. 1. Take notice of how the cost of these bogus "mentoring" programs coinsides with someones "available credit". How the f%ck? 2. Successful people have nothing to gain by sharing their "secrets" to wealth. Self proclaimed "gurus" make the majority of their money from the sales of their progams, legitimate or not. 3. If these programs were as lucrative as these imbreeds often claim, why are they compelled to shovel the $h!t, as opposed to utilizing the knowlegde themselves? 4. If John Beck's "mentoring" program truly had the potential to earn me $10,000.00-$15,000.00 a month, as so fraudulently claimed by insest boy Mike Evans himself, there's no way they'd be interested in peddling this knowledge to total strangers. For $6,400.00? LOL. IF ONLY IT WERE REAL! LOL. LOL. LOL. 5. Why hasn't anyone from this fraudulent boiler room operation come forward with some "REAL" answers and "COUNTERS" to the many complaints. Anyway's, I could go on forever stating absolute facts, as to why "mentoring" progams are nothing but scams, and why John Beck's in particular possibly takes the cake. Until next time, take care Doreen cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

I started looking at different reports and NOTICED different addresses and phone numbers. I did a little research and found: Product returned to - Family Products, Family Products is a dba for Mentoring of America. Mentoring of America = Unsatisfactory Rating, has 9 dba's including Family Products and John Beck Free & Clear Program. Mentoring of America BBB report doesn't list a dba of Freedom Teleservices but it lists both Freedom addresses of: PO box 3685 Burbank & VanNuys CA addresses under Additonal addresses. A search for the PO Box lists several business names. The address 12843 MUSCATINE ST in yellow pages appears to be Freedom Tele services, a BBB search of Freedom Teleservices comes up as Jim Rosen Classified Information(Freedom Teleservices)with the PO Box 3685, Burbank CA = Unsatisfactory Rating. Many of these businesses work very hard at keeping consumers in the dark. They are NOT upfront about who they are, they call using the infomercial name & tag on success team, which I discovered by actually calling the numbers and asking: What is your busines name, address?? and how are you associated with Auctions for Income. As consumers we blindly believe that they are the company from the infomercial, learned the hard way that they were not. Some reports sound like PMI was responsible for making the sale. My issue remains to be with the sales group Auctions for Income Success Team / The Summit Group / Summit Consulting. Service providers have conflicting stories and don't even know what type of package was purchased, as that was my experience. While I agree that the BBB could do much more in protecting consumers, consumers tend to file complaints there. Since I have had my nightmare experience I have talked to friends, neighbors & aquaintences about ripoff report and none of them knew about it. There are consumers across America that don't know about this site. Email everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Check out ripoffreport.com & donate if they can. If businesses are reputable they would not question or argue when a consumer wants a refund. They claim so many customers/students are successful and happy but I don't know of any that have backed it up with proof. FTC says at time of sale, they are to provide 10 names, addresses & phone numbers of customers that live closest to you "the potential customer" so that you can interview them. They didn't do that for me. Wish I would have known that before I purchased. If they are so successful and have so many successful student/customers, then why don't they simply refund the ever so small percent of those that are not happy with them, their product and services, unless the percentage isn't so small. Makes it seem that the issues are not about the product or services, but about the money, consumer money & how desperate they are to keep it. Very disappointing in my opinion!!!!! Take care !!!

Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. John Beck's Free and Clear Progam, Amazing profit's, and most of all, his "mentoring" program are all scams. NOT JUST MY OPINION! In case you've just ordered the Free and Clear program, I would strongly suggest, that you return it immediately and demand a promt and no questions asked refund. The Free and Clear program is just a bait used to complile a list of invites for a fraudulent third party marketing company. These fraudulent third party marketing companies main objective, are to once again, lure many victims into yet another trap. 1. Pay special attention to the details of the many unacknowledged and unresolved complaints and reports regarding fraudulent "mentoring". 2. This is not the only website, which contain many unacknowledged and unrectified complaints regarding fraudulent "mentoring". 3. A clear indication of "mentoring" scams, clearly lies on the fact, that the cost of these bogus programs, are based on, and directly proportional to ones "available credit". Pay special attention to the tremendously varying investments, by the many victims of John Beck's fraudulent "mentoring" program. Now close your eyes and ask yourself this question. If John Beck's strategies were as lucrative as they so fraudulently claim, why are they interested in the success of other's? EXAMPLE: Mike Evans (genetic imbreed) claimed to me, that I would recoop my investment of $6,400.00 in three months or less. Mike Evans claimed, that I could expect to receive a monthly income of $10,000.00-$15,000.00, a month, if only I had been coachable. $10,000.00-$15,000.00 a month? For a $6,400.00 investment? Based on the low figure of $10,000.00 a month. Let's see, that would be $120,000.00 a year! F%CK!N' A! These looney products of incest, are literally suggesting, that their "mentors" are willing to take huge losses for the sake of humanity. I AM LAUGHING MY A$$ OFF! 4. There is absolutely no one qualified and willing to teach their secrets to wealth. Any and all successful "gurus", would have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing their wealth of knowledge with complete strangers. Real Estate has created the majority of millionaires throughout the history of mankind, however, if any self proclaimed "guru' actually possessed the strategies, which they so often fraudulently claim, it would without a doubt not be in their best interest to market the information to total strangers. REMEMBER: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck you may rest assured... it's a SCAM! Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Pay extra close attention to Lisa's advice, as she is a former employee of Bank Of Hawaii and formerly worked in it's dispute department. Banking institution's definition on fraud however, is much too vague and the definition is used in the absolute broadest sense of the term. The words "fraudulent charges", according to banking institutions, refer to exactly that, "fraudulent charges". Any and all charges made on someone's credit card, other than the rightfull owner, without the written and or expressed consent of the credit card holder. The fraud in which I'm referring to, is based on fraudulent business practices, by a fraudulent business, "scam" if you will. John Beck Mentoring Institute is a flat out fraudulent company, that's engaging in flat out deceitful business practices. The company has compiled a way to take advantage of consumers in many different ways. Many have succesfully won their disputes, but the harsh reality remains, there are possibly many that haven't, elderly, victims unable to make rashional decisions, etc, etc, due to an inability to express their experience in writing, in such a way necessary and or required, by their credit card issuer. ATTENTION: The John Beck Mentoring Institute is a fraudulent company, that's offering a fraudulent/fairy tale "mentoring" program. There are many other fraudulent "mentoring" companies peddling this same garbage. As a matter of fact, the majority of "mentoring" companies, if not all, are fraudulent. Any and all legitimate "mentoring" companies, or "work at home" businesses in general, would be willing and able to come forward in the public eye and lay it all out in the open. Full disclosure is the absolute key. Disregard any and all rebuttals of a favorable nature, that fails to address, acknowledge, rectify, or resolve reports false or to the contrary. EXAMPLE OF A SHILL REBUTTAL: COMPLAINT: John Beck's Mentoring Institute is a total scam. FULL OF $H!T RESPONSE: No it isn't. Maybe if you would have gotten off you lazy but, and did something, you would have succeeded. This is just one example, of a retard with too much free time on his or her hands. This is just one example, that gives no evidence to the contrary. The same as many attempting to engage in battle with no weapons and expecting to win. The same as one attempting to enter a golf tounament with no clubs, or a billiards match with no cue. Retarded but hey, we were all warned of the dangers of genetic imbreeding. John Beck Mentoring Institute is a total scam and nothing but proof to the contrary can disprove this statement. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

Hey there Shannon, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. As frustrating as it may be, I'm afraid you're just going to have to wait this thing out. From the sound of the letter you received from your credit card company, the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Insitute will more than likely take a couple more desperate shots at winning the dispute and eventually give up. I have been in the exact same predicament that you're presently in, where my crdit card's dispute department, collectively gathered evidence from both myself and the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute. The fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute once literally begged my credit card company to reverse the obvious fraud in their favor. THE FRAUDULENT JOHN BECK MENTORING INSTITUTE'S FINAL AND DESPERATE PLEA TO MY CREDIT CARD COMPANY STATED: Please issue a credit back to our account for $6,400.00. Cardholder has purchased our Real Estate Mentoring Program. Please see attached "SIGNED" Enrollment Agreement/Contract. Thank you. S. Lyons I have NOT ONCE denied enrolling into John Beck's fraudulent "mentoring" program, therefore, this statement had absolutely nothing to do with my dispute. The fact, that S. Liar even mentioned "SIGNED" Enrollment Agreement/Contract, when I have NOT ONCE denied enrolling into their program, and my dispute had actually been of a "quality of service" nature, is an absolutely clear indication of this fraudulent company's desperation. Also, I especially liked the way S. Liar emphasised the word "SIGNED", as if such an irrelevant statement was going to somehow change the outcome of our dispute. Nothing to do with anything! Just hang in there Shannon and never give up. This scam company might just be wanting to play ping pong with you for awhile, but it's alright. Your dispute may actually take a bit longer than the rest of ours have, as these ridiculous "mentoring" scam companies seem to be forever coming up with more and more ludicrious ideas to submit on their behalf. If at all possible Shannon, post any and all correspondance from yourself to your credit card company, the fraudulent John Beck to your credit card company and your credit card company to you. There's nothing more embarrassing than the truth. By posting your correspondance, you'll be keeping all other would be scam vicims informed, as to the exact intentions of this scam company. You'd also be informing many others, as well as myself, as to the best way of assisting you, by giving us a general idea of where you stand in the dispute. Until next time, take care Shannon cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God bless.

I used to work at a Bank in Hawaii and was in charge of issuing chargebacks to merchant accounts at my discretion. Normally a credit card holder would complain about a charge to their credit card that they claim they did not make. I would then get in touch with the merchant and request a receipt with the customers signature to verify the charge. When I got the receipt I would sent it to the credit card company. (we were the bank that handled the transfer of funds for the merchants and also issued credit cards to consumers through our bank). If the customer had our credit card I would be their advocate. If there was no signature or signature was an obvious forgery, the customer would be returned the money and I would issue a chargeback on the merchant account. (because we had the means to deposit cc funds to their bank accts, we could take it out as well) I am not sure what your entire situation is, but I am guessing that you complained about a service or something you purchased, made a formal complaint to your credit card company and your company issued a chargeback to you based on your side of the story. The merchant however can respond with a receipt signed by you, if you are claiming to have not made a purchase, or an explanation of the service provided, like lets say a haircut or something that is not actual merchandise. At that point it would be up to the person issuing the chargeback how its all going to end, wether you are going to retain your returned funds, or they will recharge your credit card for disputed amount, which would mean the bank decide in the merchant's favor. If you truly have a fraudulent charge on your card, and the John Beck Mentoring Co. has nothing with your signature on it, then you shouldn't have a problem. Even if they had a charge receipt and your order was taken over the phone and they "phone order" in the signature area, you will keep the chargeback. The merchant has to actually produce a signature, or a photocopy of your signature in order to prove a valid credit card sale.