Davewestny
Tarrytown,#2Author of original report
Wed, March 26, 2008
Paula's "rebuttal" is laughable in that it does not address or explain any of the things I mentioned in my initial report. You did not address or explain the wrongful advertisement of compensation (not commission), the inability of the staff/management to directly answer questions, the suspiciously sparse office space, etc, etc, etc. All you did was basically say "You're not a good worker, you can't hack it." Hard work? HA! I won't "toot my own horn" here but I've held jobs where if you only worked 80 hours a week you weren't working hard enough. Don't lecture me about "hard work." I'm no stranger to it. At the present time I'm working a 50+ hour week at a LEGITIMATE company that recognizes and rewards such performance. I actually recieve a paycheck and I don't have to walk door to door bothering private homeowners during dinner time to get paid. Side note: Months after I interviewed with them (and about 3 or 4 weeks ago actually) a rep of Lamparter actually rang my doorbell at around 6:00 PM on a weeknight while I was having dinner with some family members. He only asked for 10 minutes of my time, never saying why or for what reason. I didn't initially see the Lamparter ID tag on him but I saw it a few seconds later. Even though I politely explained that I was in the middle of having dinner with family he insisted that he would only take 10 minutes of my time. Seriously? Do you think I'd just STOP having dinner with my family to listen to a sales pitch? Here's a tip for ANY salesman: If the guy says "hey I'm having dinner with some family members at the moment can ya come back later.." DON'T PRESUME THAT ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY is more important than my family dinner. The NERVE! I admire aggressive sales tactics and an ambitious "go-getter" attitude as much as anyone but seriously... I'm having dinner with my aging parents here. Do you think I'm going to say "Hey mom and dad this random guy in a bad suit just rang my doorbell and wants to talk to me so you go ahead and continue dinner without me because I REALLY need to hear this sales pitch for a product/service that he hasn't even mentioned yet." The company I now work for has an office space that actually includes live plants, painted walls, and pictures and art hung tastefully around the space. There are more than two rooms to the entire office and I'm not asked how I feel about loud rap music early in the morning. Shockingly it's not an issue I have to deal with. So go ahead and tell me I'm not one of the "chosen few." Tell me I'm afraid of hard work. Tell me I just couldn't cut the mustard. That's fine. But the truth is that these companies take advantage of people, they offer a lot but deliver very little. Hey I know not every job is great, I know that in every job comes some crud you don't want to deal with. I know that to get ahead you have to bust your butt and work it off. I'm aware of this. I KNOW some jobs are commission only sales positions. I KNOW some jobs are harder than others. I KNOW some jobs require some driving, some footwork, etc... And that's fine. But be up front about it. That's all I'm asking. These companies PROMISE Management, Marketing, Public Relations, and Customer Service "training" but there's no real training in anything other than selling whatever they're selling to whomever they're selling it to. There's a BIG difference between observing a 22 year old guy in a bad suit with a worse haircut trying to sell credit card payment consolidation to a liquor store owner AND a legitimate TRAINING program offered by a university or corporation. These companies ADVERTISE a starting salary of 30K. That's THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. Sometimes it's advertised as a little more, sometimes a little less. Thirty Thousand dollars is a big deal to recent college grads and/or dropouts. ESPECIALLY when you couple it with the promised "training." During my interview I REPEATEDLY asked if this was a base salary or commision only. My interviewer avoided the question at every turn. I LITERALLY, LITERALLY!!! had to say "HEY! IS there a BASE Salary or is this JUST Commission? Answer this question!" Before I was told it's only commission. Here's Lamparter's latest AD on craigslist: Marketing Firm looking to fill entry-level position Candidate will have Strong work ethic Great communication skills Team mentality Organizational skills Responsibilities Learning technology for largest client Marketing presentations Some public speaking Please send resume to: [email protected] Location: Tarrytown Compensation: 25,000 - 35,000 Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. Please, no phone calls about this job! Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. There's no MENTION of Lamparter there. How do I know it's Lamparter? Because I submitted my resume after reading this ad and recieved a call from them. I had no idea why they were calling me because my interview was months ago and I never followed up until the guy told me who he was. That's right... I had to ASK him who he was calling for. I answered the phone and was given the spiel about how they saw my resume and wanted to talk to me, blah blah blah. Then I said "I'm sorry, what company is this? I don't remember submitting a resume." And he said "OH this is LMG." And I said "Oh I remember you guys. The Scam. No thanks." So go ahead and tell me that I can't cut it, that I'm not fit to work for this company. I don't care. Tell me I'm not a hard worker. That's fine. I have no hidden agenda here. I have no grudges. I only want to let people know the truth about these companies. Maybe they're not doing anything illegal persay but they certainly don't have a problem lying, cheating, and deceiving people. And if that's fine with you.. go right ahead. Like I said, I have no vested interest in this other than informing people and helping them before they make a mistake they'll regret.
Hollie
Swanton,#3Consumer Suggestion
Tue, March 25, 2008
I love when a so called employee trys to defend companies who promise the world but deliver nothing! I guess you are not one of those Brilliant Individuals that the company will be seening soon Or in your words soom! Come on if you are going to make an arse of your self by defending such companies then atleast proof read your entry before hitting submit!!!LOL Now as for those who feel the need to bad mouth these "TYPES" of companies, it isn't because they couldn't cut it or weren't worthy of bothering people who didn't want nor ask to be bothered, it is simply because they can see from a mile away that the job they inquried about isn't at all what was in black and white print in last weeks paper. These kinds of companies use selective wording in their ads to get young people who really have no work history to come and be their slaves, and that is really what it is, the employee has to use their own car, their own gas, and all their energy to go out for 8+ hours a day in hopes of making a sale to someone as I already said who didn't want to nor asked to be bothered, I tell you what, nothing irrates me more then to have someone try and sell me something I didn't ask to be sold on, and these poor young kids fresh out of highschool or in the middle of college who are hoping to make some extra money truly are the victims of these types of companies and usually when it is all said and done, the employee ends up with more of a debt then a paycheck from all the money he/she spent on gas, and maintaining their vehicle being the company surly doesn't provide a company vehicle nor do they provide compensation for the miles driven by you in your car for their benifit. There are many of these companies out there, some sale vacumes (anyone ever heard of Kirby?) Some sell purfumes and the list goes on and on, however those who do come to places like this and say things that aren't so bright and cheerful about these kinds of places, isn't because they weren't strong enough to last, it is simply because they realized that they were being taken advantage of, yes I know that every employer has employee's to make them money, however most employers pay their employees a wage and I just think when a company starts off by lying in their employment ad then that right there should tell anyone with half a brain that chances are you aren't going to make a good living with that company, plain and simple. So there you have my 2 cents worth.
Paula
Yonkers,#4UPDATE Employee
Tue, March 25, 2008
Sorry you feel this way however hard work is indeed that! If you didn't pass our interview or you did and wer not quality material than please refrain from putting down our company. If you are a hard wotker and like to be part of a company that proves to give results then inquire within. Like every career you have disgruntled employees that just will never be a C.E.O.. However don't let the loosers neg you out it just goes to show you that only the strong shall prevail. so if you are looking for an opportunity that has growth apply at 212 marketing solutions see all brilliant individuals soom.