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  • Report:  #887511

Complaint Review: Mainsail Newfoundlands Tammy Hensley Tamara D. Taskey South Central Newfoundlands Club - Internet

Reported By:
Senior AKC advisor - NEW YORK, New York, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

Mainsail Newfoundlands Tammy Hensley Tamara D. Taskey South Central Newfoundlands Club
804 Jackson St., Seymour, IN 47274 47274 Internet, United States of America
Phone:
8125231221
Web:
http://mainsailnewfs.com/index.html
Categories:
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Tammy Hensley and Mainsail Newfoundlands are a complete rip off. They sell fake pedigree dogs that have known health problems. The papers you get with thier puppies are bogus. The puppy you get is not the puppy thats registered. They also practice inbreeding to get easier access to puppies for thier "dog shows". As you know dog shows are one of the highest forms of animals abuse. The people who participate dont care about thier dogs they just care about winning thier trophy. They keep thier dogs in cages 24 hours a day and in filthy conditions then just clean them up for the show then put them right back in. They only choose the best puppies from each litter and get rid of the rest. If you are buying a puppy from Mainsail Newfoundlands or Tammy Hensley this is what you are getting. You are getting an imbred dog with health problems that was a throw away and not gooen enough for them. They will lie and tell you all kinds of different things but this is the truth. Its a very sad reality that freak breeders like this are allowed to take the lives of innocent animals. I say take her dogs away for good!  


6 Updates & Rebuttals

KrisG

Maine,
USA
Last word on the subject.

#2General Comment

Sun, May 27, 2012

I've decided I'm no longer going to deal with this for two reasons

1. You're never going to be able to provide details for things that never happened.  &

2. Arguing with people like you is like arguing with a statue.

Since Mainsail Newfs has never produced a litter, they can't be selling sick pups with papers, bogus or otherwise.



KrisG

Maine,
USA
I told you before

#3General Comment

Sat, May 26, 2012

If your gonna sling dirt do it right. And if you have to resort to calling me a moron then I have clearly touched a nerve. GOOD.

1. Actually I've had several dogs. Two of which were show dogs. I had two breeders in the family. I've also done more than "read a book". See even if I never breed my next dog, I like to be an educated buyer. I also like reading on genetics when it comes to dogs.

2. Never said I was an expert just said I know more than someone who claims to be a senior adviser for the AKC. there is a difference.

3. dogs don't like to work? Man are you full of it. You're one of those people who think dogs should just be pets aren't you? Well guess what when dogs came around their first task was to work alongside us. Do dogs overall work as much as they did say 50 or more years ago? No, but there is still a need for working dogs and having spent enough time around working dogs, particularly HUNTING dogs I can assure you they like working. Active/Working breeds need jobs and activities in their lives otherwise they end neurotic messes that their owner's can't handle. A couple walks jogs during the week will NOT cut it. Don't believe me? Go talk to anyone who volunteers/works with a Border Collie rescue. Ask them how many dogs they've had come in were do nothing pets who were do nothing pets that were placed for them because their owners couldn't keep up with their needs.

4. bought and sold like a commodity? Um pets are property. You may not like that little fact, but it is a fact of the law. Which is why if people have issues with how a dog is treated they simply cannot TAKE the dog. They have to go through the proper channels.

5. You say you've seen it personally. Ok. Time and Date. When did you make a report to animal control? How many? As I have said multiple times - thin on details doesn't stir confidence in this report.  Come one step up to the plate -When were you at the kennel. What exactly did you see.  Did you take any pictures? How hard is that to do? If you were being honest, rather than attacking me and nitpicking over conformation and how dogs don't like working(which is BS) I'd see some validity to your complaint.  If buyers can do something so simple then so can you.

6. All PETA can do is make fools of themselves. They have no legal ability to do anything. They tear ALL breeders, good or bad, to shreds because at their core they don't believe in breeding period nor do they believe in keeping pets, let alone having dogs do what they were bred to do. I know because I had one have a go at me because I plan to use my dog hog hunting.

So last time or I will just consider someone with an axe to grind
-When were you at the kennel?
-What did you see as far as "filthy" cages?
-You say you've treated their dogs. Ok. When, the name of the dog, and what issues?

and just to slightly touch on the whole inbreeding issue. Beacon has a COI of 6.25%,(greatgrands) She's being bred to a male with an AKV of 100/96/90 3rd-5th generations respectively.  Yeah they are really breeding some heavily inbred dogs /sarcasm. They have good health clearance results and have pedigrees filled with mostly the same good results. could they still throw a faulty pup. Sure, that's the nature of genetics with or without line/inbreeding involved. something you as a vet should be capable of understanding.


Senior AKC advisor

KC,
Missouri,
United States of America
KrisG is a moron

#4Author of original report

Fri, May 25, 2012

Why are you butting in where you dont belong?  I see thats all you are doing on here. You just go in and disagree with anything anyone says on every single post you make. Youre a troll and a pretty rediculous one at that. Your credentials are that you have a dog and have read some dog books!LOL  Wow im so sorry I crossed an expert. LOL  Im saying Ive been to this persons kennel and they have a slew of dogs in filthy cages. Yes when you breed hundreds of dogs a year you will get some good ones. I could easily train dogs to do the things that got the awards. So can anyone else. There is nothing special there.  Im sorry but SERVICE dogs are abused as well. Its great for the people getting serviced but trying to convince everyone that the dogs enjoy it is just sad.  They dont enjoy it they do it becuase they are forced to and cannot refuse.  What if the service dog just sat down and refused to serve? They get thrown away thats what.  They end up in a shelter in a "rescue" that has too many dogs or put to sleep. We get dogs dropped off from the police department and sherriff all the time. If they wont sniff they put them down.  Same with the blind dogs and all that. They dont care about them unless they are doing a human a favor.  Dogs like to play. They dont like to work. They dont like to be kept in cages during long trips to shows and on airplanes and bought and sold like a commodity. Im a vet. Im an objective advisor to the AKC. I work for them because of my point of view and my objective opinion. Not everyone at the akc supports dog shows. Its just the one main way they make money. This is back to Tammy Hensley and Mainsail Newfoundlands. They are bad people. The shows are not the issue. The issue is they are selling dogs from a filthy kennel that have health problems and imbreeding. They sell the throw away dogs that arent good enough for training and showing. This is the facts. Some of them are really sick and have major health problems. Ive treated thier dogs and been to thier kennel. After I left I felt I needed to immediately do something. Ive already contacted the animal cops and Im having her bloodline and registration brought into question.  Large breed dogs cant be imbred like that. They die within age 5-7. Its great that they can go fetch for a judge but when they die at age 5 how can you say its ok? Im not with peta. If I was or was to contact them she would really be in trouble. They would tear this puppy mill to shreds.


KrisG

Maine,
USA
Let me be clear

#5General Comment

Fri, May 25, 2012

Either put up or shut up. You've either dealt with them or you haven't and can back up your claims. Got any pics?

You're a Senior Adviser for the AKC yet trash dogs shows hmmm, care to share your REAL name? Doubt it. Sound more like a PETA member than a dog fancier. 

And again you CANNOT successfully put titles,  let alone WORK titles on a dog that lives the majority of its life in a cage. Trust me I know. A dog has to be conditioned and trained to not only show well, but to also do well when it comes to carting, water dog events etc etc.
 
"Real breeders take the time to find unsimilar and unrelated bloodlines. " No they don't. If you want consistent conformation and work ability you stick with SIMILAR lines. And YES in and linebreeding occurs. Also again when done properly produces great results. Can it produce negative results? Yes, if done constantly and using faulty dog to begin with. Please try this argument with someone who doesn't know more on the subject that you do.

"You just do it because its easier and nobody will sell you an unlimited registration on a dog thats line isnt spread thin across the country already."

-Its NEVER easy when done properly. you not only have to have a firm grasp of genetics(higher than high school level) and know the lines you are working with

-Depends on what you are breeding for and breed as far as how popular some sires have become.  And guess what some lines are just BETTER

" What you should do is stop showing and stop abusing animals" Not showing currently. Only because I have a cat right now. however I do plan to get back into conformation and other dog events when I get my new pup. Why? because I'm getting a working breed and might just might breed in the future and since I have no interest in being a bad breeder I am gonna prove my dog has the right stuff.

And drop this AKC adviser nonsense. You know and I know its BS. Anyone who hates on conformation so much wouldn't DREAM of being involved with the AKC. So come out from behind the Wizard of Oz styled curtain and admit what your REAL problem with this kennel or rather the owners is.

If you really expect anyone with a clue to believe these dogs are so poorly treated and yet managed to earn the following, I'd love to know what you are on.
CD- Companion dog Obedience title
TDI- Therapy dog International
CGC - Canine Good Citizen
WD - Water dog title from the NATIONAL club. The dog must work well with his/her owner on land and in the water
DD - Draft dog title again from NCA. the dog has to be willing and physically capable of pulling effectively(Can't manage that living in a cage all its life outside of CONFORMATION SHOWS).
WRD - Water Rescue dog. Again from NCA and is the SENIOR level of water work.

WD & DD both require a dog with the drive, diligent training and to be physically sound.

WRD requires the following "In the senior division, the dog must retrieve two articles in the proper order, leap from a boat to fetch a paddle, discriminate between three swimmers and then carry a life ring to the one in distress, retrieve underwater, carry a line from shore to a steward in a boat and then tow that boat to shore, and leap from a boat to save its handler, who has fallen overboard. "

These are more than just "pretty" dogs that earn ribbons and titles. These are Newfs who can do what Newfs were BRED TO DO.

I will say it won't last time - Put up or shut up and GTFO if you cannot back up what you have remotely claimed. Come one what's the real story, did she refuse to do business with you? Did they call you out on your own BS?


Senior AKC advisor

KC,
Missouri,
United States of America
Animal Abusers Tammy Hensley Mainsail Newfoundlands

#6Author of original report

Fri, May 25, 2012

You must be an animal abuser too. Ive worked with dogs for 30 years. Im a vet and a senior advisor to the AKC. Dog shows are for people to get thier jollies not the dogs. Animals are not on this earth for you to win a trophy. GO put yourself in a show if you want a trophy. Your sick imbred dog deserves a better life than to be in a cage all the time laying in its own feces.  Mainsail Newfoundlands are definitely kept in cages. And they are imbred beyond retardation. Imbred litters often product show quality pups but they are sick and the others in the litter get very sick and live a terrible life. And like you said they get sold to unsuspecting owners who cry thierself to sleep each night because thier lovely dog is sick.  This is a fact that Ive seen myself and I will stop at nothing to make sure everyone knows about Tammy Hensley and Mainsail Newfoundlands.  Anyone that says imbreeding is ok and wants to hide behind it and call it INLINE breeding is a sad and sick individual. Take the time to buy or aquire a dog not in your dogs bloodline to breed with and you wont have puppies that are dying at age 5-7 and have frightening health problems.  Real breeders take the time to find unsimilar and unrelated bloodlines.  They dont need to imbreed. You just do it because its easier and nobody will sell you an unlimited registration on a dog thats line isnt spread thin across the country already.  What you should do is stop showing and stop abusing animals.  Because a lot of people do it doesnt make it right.  Mainsail Newfoundlands and Tammy Hensley should be shut down.  


KrisG

Maine,
USA
????

#7General Comment

Thu, May 24, 2012

You clearly know nothing or at least very little about dog showing. Conformation is far from abuse and show dogs are normal pets(at minimum as many are also working dogs depending on the breed) so rarely if EVER are they cooped up in crates/kennels the majority of their lives when they are not showing. When you say "get rid of" you make it seem like they are just discarding pet quality pups. No they go to pet homes. The whole point of keeping pups out of a litter is to keep back show/work potentials for your own kennel or they are sold to other show/work homes.

Their dogs are not just show dogs, both Beacon and Stowie have their working titles. Can't manage that with a dog who is caged all the time.

I won't get into the whole in/line breeding debate, because its too long and detailed. I'll be brief - its done with ALL domesticated animals and when done PROPERLY produces great results.

So rather than a report that really say anything, how about you provide some DETAILS. What problems did you have with the pup you got from them? How did they handle or not handle the situation? Did you complain to AKC about the paper situation?

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