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Portland,#2Consumer Suggestion
Sat, November 12, 2005
You got it bad. I was in the same situation years ago, they kept changing numbers, sales people and finance people. When the final papers were presented to me I calculated that I was getting zero for my trade, not the 12,300 we discussed. They insisted I was trying to cheat them. I told them the numbers didn't reflect the oral agreement, they further insisted that I was trying to cheat them and didn't understand the auto business. What was there to understand? Negotiated Price - Negotiated Trade - Cash Down + License, tax and title = out the door price. I walked out the door to their jeers and insults, they told that it was amazing that someone like myself could even get along in life, that I was a scammer. Please just take this as lesson learned. Never, ever believe anything someone who works at an auto dealer says. And when your gut tells you you're getting screwed, you most likely are, so just get the heck out of there. People work at car dealers because they're not smart enough to work anywhere else. If dealers could use monkeys, they would. Dealers just want people too stupid to think for themselves. People who will do anything they're told no matter how unethical.
Jim
Orlando,#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, November 12, 2005
They took advantage of you, for sure! The car salesman's dream is to get everybody into a FLEASE. No, I didn't spell that wrong...its IS a FLEASE and the customer is the one who gets sheared. No matter how smart they say you are, no matter how they twist the numbers...the FLEASE is a great deal for them and a horrendously BAD, VERY BAD deal for you. There is so much more profit in a FLEASE that many will resort to fraud/deception to get the unsuspecting into one. Did they tell you how much more your insurance will be in a FLEASE as compared to a buy? Did they tell you how YOU will pay for routine maintenance on a car someone else owns? Did they tell you about the MAJOR PROFIT center of the "excess wear and tear" clause where somebody decides what is excess and grossly exaggerates that? Did they tell you how you will need to pay for that and how the car is then sent to the auction WITHOUT any of the alleged "repairs" being performed? Did they tell you about the garbage fee for turning in the care at the end of the FLEASE period? You will be paying the tuition for this lesson but please spread the word so others don't make the same mistake.
Jim
Orlando,#4Consumer Suggestion
Sat, November 12, 2005
They took advantage of you, for sure! The car salesman's dream is to get everybody into a FLEASE. No, I didn't spell that wrong...its IS a FLEASE and the customer is the one who gets sheared. No matter how smart they say you are, no matter how they twist the numbers...the FLEASE is a great deal for them and a horrendously BAD, VERY BAD deal for you. There is so much more profit in a FLEASE that many will resort to fraud/deception to get the unsuspecting into one. Did they tell you how much more your insurance will be in a FLEASE as compared to a buy? Did they tell you how YOU will pay for routine maintenance on a car someone else owns? Did they tell you about the MAJOR PROFIT center of the "excess wear and tear" clause where somebody decides what is excess and grossly exaggerates that? Did they tell you how you will need to pay for that and how the car is then sent to the auction WITHOUT any of the alleged "repairs" being performed? Did they tell you about the garbage fee for turning in the care at the end of the FLEASE period? You will be paying the tuition for this lesson but please spread the word so others don't make the same mistake.
Jim
Orlando,#5Consumer Suggestion
Sat, November 12, 2005
They took advantage of you, for sure! The car salesman's dream is to get everybody into a FLEASE. No, I didn't spell that wrong...its IS a FLEASE and the customer is the one who gets sheared. No matter how smart they say you are, no matter how they twist the numbers...the FLEASE is a great deal for them and a horrendously BAD, VERY BAD deal for you. There is so much more profit in a FLEASE that many will resort to fraud/deception to get the unsuspecting into one. Did they tell you how much more your insurance will be in a FLEASE as compared to a buy? Did they tell you how YOU will pay for routine maintenance on a car someone else owns? Did they tell you about the MAJOR PROFIT center of the "excess wear and tear" clause where somebody decides what is excess and grossly exaggerates that? Did they tell you how you will need to pay for that and how the car is then sent to the auction WITHOUT any of the alleged "repairs" being performed? Did they tell you about the garbage fee for turning in the care at the end of the FLEASE period? You will be paying the tuition for this lesson but please spread the word so others don't make the same mistake.
Cory
San Antonio,#6Consumer Suggestion
Fri, November 11, 2005
They had to have made at least $10,000 or more off of the one deal alone. They got your trade-in for free, which they'll sell to the next sucker as a "gas saver" for $5000. Then they "leased" you the truck for $3,000 over invoice, then they added on a bunch of useless crap on top of everything else. Probably another $3000+. Then you get to pay the $1000+ to ship the bad deal to Hawaii. And, you didn't even get a 4 wheel drive. To say you were confused is an understatement. Man, that has to hurt.