Anonymous
LA,#2Consumer Comment
Thu, October 05, 2017
Beware Bottom Feeders!
Just spoke with a Betty, From RN Association, Same story as the gentlemen above with the orginal story behind these scum bag people. Calls me from 714-677-8316 (which goes straight to voicemail (scam)) gave me my last 4 of my social and said that I need to verify that its me and that it is a private security matter which is a load of hourse s**t. I said ok, since you have my information I now need yours, asked for Company name NR Association, Asked for address she tried to give me a PO Box I said no that was not good enough I need your office address and she said she can not give it to me. After that I knew it was a scam then she said she can confirm with my address then she contunined to give me an address I have not used in over 12 years then I started to ask more and more questions about their busniess and and how they obtained my phone number and this information they had which she got all choked up didnt know how to answer all my questions then she just hung up on me. Tried to call back but we all know they are not going to answer they want to be the ones with the element of surprise when they call you but dont like it when you try and surpirse them. I have already reported this information to the police and I will also be posting this informatoin on alot more social and interent sites so that RN Association has harder time scamming people.
Don't even listen to these people hang up they are trying to scam you over stolen or hacked old data. They are completely out of bounds when it comes to business practices you can also tell that Betty was new to this scam life.
Toll free number she gave me was 844-808-9506 BEWARE!! DONT GIVE ANY INFO! HANG UP AND REPORT THEM.
David
West Berlin,#3Author of original report
Mon, July 08, 2013
Reading the rebuttal to my original complaint, my response in a nutshell is --- HORSE HOCKEY --- The rebuttal does not even ATTEMPT ro address the issues I raised - It is a GENERALITY that is designed to provide the reader with the apparency of legitimacy. They never answered the question or the allegation about how they came upon the information that I owed TWO BANKS I NEVER DID BUSINESS WITH a total of $11,796.33 Well, it took long enough for them to file a rebuttal to my complaint, but they did NOT address any of the issues I raised, or explained how they had information on me to collect debts from two banks that NEVER HEARD OF ME. Their rebuttal to my original complaint DOES NOT solve the problem; there NEVER WAS a problem. NR Associates simply created it out of thin air, hoping to cash in. Scammers do this all the time - just think of all the eMails you get from Nigeria or Benin, claiming you are a BENEFICIARY of someone you never heard of, or won a "lottery" you never bought a ticket for. These scams WORK because 0.05% of people fall for them, and that is most likely the case with these people. THEY TRIED TO SCAM THE WRONG MAN. First of all, these THIEVES attempted to "collect" TWO debts that I NEVER actually owed. When I checked with the creditors NR Associates said I owed money to, they never heard of me - and so it was NOT a mix-up, or an issue of identity theft - - - The issue was an entity masquerading as a legitimate business, harvesting OLD records, hoping to scare people into paying back debts they never had (or made to believe they forgot about), for fear of being reported to the Feds.... and / or to the credit agencies. The FACT is that NR Associates never made an attempt to verify the information they claimed they had was legitimate; i.e. that I actually owed the money they claimed I owed. However, it is more than likely that they got my SSN from some old, discarded (not discarded by me) documents somewhere, then picked a few banks, hoping that I would "remember" doing business with them "a long time ago", and scare me into "settling". Any LEGITIMATE company has an address. They said "We do not believe in providing our physical address to ensure the safety of our staff". I can see why. When people discover they were SCAMMED, they might show up to their door demanding their money back.... or they might send the FEDS. Companies using VOIP services can be legitimate - but they can always pull up stakes and move anywhere in the WORLD (with a Magic Jack or Ooma device), and be slippery than snot on a glass door knob to catch. In conclusion, my original report stands UNCONTESTED. I record my phone conversations as well, and if another rebuttal is made to this complaint without a FULL EXPLANATION of how NR Associates got the information they used to try to scam me, I will post the audio files of our conversations (redacting my personal information) on YouTube, Facebook, and on my Web Site at AssholesAmongUs - dot - com under "Phishers of Men". NR Associates - call my bluff and see if it doesn't happen. Waste any more of my time with this nonsense, and I will make it a MISSION to put you all behind bars for the rest of your natural lives. That's my WORD!
Manager @ NRA
#4UPDATE Employee
Mon, July 08, 2013
All the calls are recorded are monitored. We have an employee that maintains and monitors all of our FDCPA policies and procedures to ensure that we as a staff follow them to the letter of the law. Our staff is not allowed to insult, use profanity, bully, harass, threaten or abuse any consumers. Our office is a voluntary company, no one is required to pay us, nor do we believe in harassing people to resolve their debts. We offer a resolution, a settlement plan, and a payment plan for the consumers who are interested in clearing up their old debts / collections.
We provide all of our arrangements in writing to ensure we uphold our agreement. We do not believe in providing our physical address to ensure the safety of our staff. We do however, offer several different options for communication with us corresponding to our PO BOX address, email, telephone, or fax. We in no way are attempting to hide or deceive consumers. We are a registered, licensed, and legitimate company trying to offer consumers a voluntary option to resolve their personal debts.