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  • Report:  #1084279

Complaint Review: Teresa Haro - Oregon

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Rexed - everett, Washington,
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Teresa Haro
Culver OR Oregon, USA
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This is the first time I've ever had to make something like this public, but i really need to protect all of the other breeders out there before it's too late.  

A few years ago I get contacted by breeder in OR inquiring about starting a breeding program.  I met her down at a show in WA.  She seemed OK.  So I decided that instead of letting her just go on and continue what she was doing which was buying poor quality adults (she has 0 patience in waiting and doing research on breed and breeders)  I was going to help to guide her with my limited knowledge and try to help keep her away from bad experiences since she'd already had quite a few.

She had aquired 3 females all Adults, and 1 male kitten who arrived at 11 weeks old via air sick.  She sold me some sob story that i bought into like a fool.  Learning my own lessons as I was helping it appears.

Since I couldn't stop her from doing what she was doing she was going to breed come hell or high water.  I wanted to try to guide her in the positive right directions. 

First off I agree'd to breed 2 of her acquired females, 1 was Zoe who when my very social male even got with in 5-6 feet of her literally pooped everywhere.  Multiple times.  I called Teresa and let her know that this cat was not going to be bred, just not possible or wise.  So, oddly enough that same scared poopless kitty who had not much socialization took to my 83 year old grandmother who was in for a visit.  So Teresa said spay her and give her to your grandmother, she'd be an only cat and probably best.  So That's what happened with that one.

 

The other queen she sent up to me, after she assured me had been checked by a vet and was all good.  Isis, well Isis was super sweet, she got bred with ease, she stayed with me for a good 5 weeks to assure the pregnancy was positive.  One evening when Isis was in my 12 year olds son room snuggling she began to have a seizure, my son runs into the kitchen crying and yelling something is wrong i don't know whats going on mom please help her.

 

 By time i got her out of his hands and onto the floor where I could examine her she took her final breath and died.  I took her body in directly after for a necropsy, which discovered she died of HCM one of her valves was so thin he could read through it, another was so thick it barely could move.

 

I called Teresa who still has never paid me for the autopsy or any of this mind you.  She didn't seem to care, and said well now I'm out a lot of money and only 1 queen to breed.  

Which that queen Chloe had such a horrid skin condition on her abdomen should have never been bred, but against me telling her not to she bred that queen twice.

I sold her Lacey whom came from my queen Peanut, I had Lacey fully examined and knew for a fact she came from a solid backing and would not have any health issues.  I sold her for 800 dollars because i felt horrible about Zoe.

After Isis died, she wanted another kitten from me, Eve during this time behind my back and another breeders back she was trying to get another kitten from them as well.  I am very open and honest about pretty much all and was discussing the situation with Teresa with another breeder asking advice on what to do as I felt horrible.  Then found out that she was being deceitful and trying to get 2 kittens.  The other breeder told her no at that point.  I had already agreed to Eve.

However with Eve, I put massive restrictions on her, since i was going to give her Eve for FREE because my heart was too soft and I really felt bad about her crappy luck.  Teresa discussed these restrictions via e mail and signed a contract agreeing to my terms which are:

She may never sell, trade, give any intact kittens from Eve with out my written permission. Ever, period.  Not just first generation, the contract is worded quite carefully as It was becoming quite clear Teresa could not really be trusted and needed more restrictions until she learned what the heck she was doing.

Another breeder whom i discussed another situation about decided she didn't much care for the way I handled a situation with a breeder who killed a kitten of mine. (that's in legal right now so can not be discussed)  

Teresa then tells me that she really wants a kitten from said breeder so she wasn't wanting to work with me any more. basically.  She inquired about trading a kitten to another breeder which i quickly said NO to, even though I knew the breeder I do not want teresa to continue to do all of the things she's doing.  It became painfully clear she is turning into a just for profit breeder.

In the middle of that on going I had given her 2 of my adult queens to give her a try with them.  One of them is not exactly super friendly she loves us but not anyone else apparently.  

So she transported them back up from OR IN THE TRUNK OF HER CAR.  YES folks closed up trunk 1 pregnant queen and 1 not pregnant.   She meets me, I question this and she was like "oh how did the seats get up" Obviously, bull crap.  Her son gets out of the care goes to get one queen grabs her by the scruff of the neck and holds her far from his body.  I run over grab her and soothe her putting her in my SUV with clean water, litter and food.  She gets the other queen and i do the same.

At the point where I declined her wanting to give an intact cat to another breeder in OR as a Trade, Teresa then started taking it upon herself to message all of my friends on facebook saying if they are friends with me that she can not be their friend and doesn't want to work with them etc.  Also, speaking to other breeders poorly about me trying to run yet another sob story that I restricted her queen to keep her from selling breeders. Which, is true and she signed a contract before Eve left my hands Saying as much. This is and should not be a surprise unless you're trying to be sneaky and find ways around a signed and dated contract. 

Now, come to find out she is selling against signed contract intact kittens from Eve to breeders and trying to be sneaky and not get caught.  Unfortunately for her I have very good friends in the breeding world who have informed me of this behavior.  I've warned her multiple times not to try this or there will be repercussions.  It's painfully clear to all involved thus far that she is breeding purely for profit, back to back bred Eve to cover the cost of her new "breeding Stock".  She had 7-8 week old maybe kittens from eve still when she bred her again.

Now she leaves me with no choice but to make her breeding habits, distrustful lies, and obvious back yard breeding for nothing more than cash public knowledge.   My goal here is to forewarn ANY and all breeders from dealing with her.  She can NOT be trusted, she does NOT treat her cats well (for goodness sake forcing 2 queens 1 pregnant to ride 8 hours or so in the dang TRUNK of a car?)  

She does not honor contracts, can not be trusted at all.  

I have never posted anything negative about anyone on here, I try to handle things privately but at this point it's obvious I need to forewarn and try to protect other breeders from her.

 

Thank you for taking the time to read my interactions with Teresa Haro of Happy Tales Cattery in OR.  The choice to work with this breeder is yours and yours alone.  I am just sharing my personal experience that I've had with her and trying to be open honest and forth coming so each breeder can make their own choices if they choose to work with her or not.

if we were all upfront and honest with each other, and respected each other things like this would never happen.

 I have all of the e mails, text, facebook chats saved that back up everything I've stated on here as factual coming directly fron Teresa and Myself.  

I had this posted privately for Devon Rex Breeders only to see but she attempted to claim "slander"  which let me inform all  the defination of slander is : a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report

None of which are the case here, I have emails, etc to back up everything I've stated.  Meaning nothing i've said here is false and can NOT be considered slander as it is indeed factual.

Thank you for your time and consideration when reading this lengthy write up,

 

 



3 Updates & Rebuttals

The Truth

Oregon,
Truth

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, October 25, 2013

I start with a quotation because this fits the situation:

"The words that come out of someone's mouth say more about how they feel about themselves than how they feel about you. Upset and insecure people say bitter and hurtful things, while happy and loving people say kind and encouraging words to those around them."

Yes, my journey with Devon's and breeders started off rocky. It was difficult at first to get cats for breeding - I was warned by many not to start a cattery. They didn't give the specifics, but now I know why. There can be much negativity and drama.

I want those who read about me to know the truth. The most important thing is, I have never traveled with cats closed in my trunk. Those two sweet girls had the freedom to move around my car at any time. Since one of them was pregnant I wanted to make sure she wasn't stressed by the ride at all so I set up a carrier in the back where it was dark. The back seats were down the entire trip and they were able to roam between the front and back as they wanted.

You hear a lot about Eve and how she was free. Nothing is free. She came with restrictions, which I have honored. I have only sold my kittens as pets - no kittens have ever been sold as breeders.

Breeder quality would mean they are free of defects, which can't be said of Eve's kittens. I didn't find that out until her second litter, which was an accidental breeding. (If you ask breeders, some will tell you they had an accidental breeding. It happens. I know of a breeder who had all five of her queens pregnant at once and I know it was an accident. Things happen and we make sure they don't happen again.) With that being said, Eve has been spayed so as not to produce any more kittens with defects (of which people were fully aware of when they bought the kittens).

If you read between the lines, you will see that this person isn't happy that I didn't side with her. Nothing negative was ever said to/about me until the day she didn't get what she wanted. Then she decided to attack me, first privately, then publicly.

I'm an honest person and if you want the truth, contact me. I will gladly talk to anyone about the things that were written about me. 

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everett,
Washington,
Interesting attempt at a defense, however lost in translation

#3Author of original report

Tue, October 22, 2013

Well I Have a business LLC because If you didn't know that's the way that you're supposed to run things LEGALLY.

As a registered business, with a licsense, and a registered cattery in the City in which I live also registered, and fully checked out and have people come out and look at my home, the way I handle my cats, and the way I breed and the way that I run my household.

I have the Local animal control come out as per law and inspect every inch of my home.  Only once is required, I invited them over multiple times a year just because I like to show them the new things that are going on if we are in process of a re-model making an outside run so the cats can join me outside during the summer.

As for the "verbally abusive" I did not start this mud slinging Teresa did by taking it upon herself to personally  message people on my friends list on facebook and saying that if they are friends with me that she can not be associated with them.  ETC.   

Oh and then there is this http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Bat-Cave-Cattery/Everett-Washington/Bat-Cave-Cattery-Melissa-MacPherson-Kitten-Mill-Owner-has-bad-temper-Trying-to-get-ric-1079786

Where she had her daughter post on her behalf, because she is throwing a temper tantrum because I refuse to allow her to continue to try to make a profit off of kittens that she got out of a cat that was given to her for free.

You are insanely misinformed about Teresa, her woah as me stuff had me fooled for a while as well.

 Until she showed up with 2 of my adult cats one who was pregnant in the TRUNK of her car. At least a 7 hour drive, stuffed in the back of a small car with nothing but a litter box.  Things went down hill rather fast at that point.  I was still willing to try to help her and 2 other breeder "friends" get back up and going as well.

Yes I have an LLC, Yes I am fully registered.  Does that make me a bad person? or bad breeder No, just the opposite.  I do things Legally and the way that you do that is by having an LLC and paying Taxes on sells, and reporting in all births.  

Teresa on the other hand,  back to back breed Eve to cover the cost of her new breeding"stock"  she still had younglings on the ground when she bred her again and then bragged about having 12 more kittens to sell.  

I have all of the paperwork, and email exchanges with Teresa to prove every single point that I have said here. 

Yes I am more than aware of the disagreements and on goings of breeders who do not like each other.  That hush hush talk about each other behind the back of the other.  Which lead to cause some of this issue.  Another breeder had an issue with me however my "breeder friends" Teresa included didn't inform me of this until my husband stepped in and asked her bluntly the right questions.  Me personally,  I'd rather be open honest, upfront and cut through the whole BS.  

Educate other breeders on how this breeder handles herself, her cats, and her cattery.  People can make up their own minds if they wish to work with Teresa or not.  Same with any breeder.  

However I've seen and heard all too many times of people getting kittens from breeders with  X  Y Z issues that could have been all avoided if other breeders communicated honestly and open about exchanges.

If you sit back and do nothing about something you know is wrong, then you are NO better than that person. Teresa is in no way shape or form my competitiion.

I spent plenty of time discussing things with judges myself at a few shows, so I'd really think that If you are a judge you'd not hide behind anomity.  I would be more than willing to openly discuss anything you'd like.  If you'd like proof More than  happy on that side as well.

But, please find something better to do than to do a search on me, find that I own a business with an LLC and try to twist that into something evil when it's the RIGHT and LEGAL way to do things.

FYI the "sick Kitten" that you seem to bring up, that individiual is currently under full investigation for illegally submiting forms as someone else.  Falsly accusing not on my myself but another breeder due to their own actions leading up to the death of one of my kittens.  Which if you'd read the entire file, you'd realize that I have videos, pictures and even a health certificate issued that day on that kitten that prove beyond any doubt that she was in perfect health when she left.

I breed 1-2 times a year, with out any cages, in my own home raised by my family.  I far from breed for a profit. 

Ask yourself this does a breeder who breeds for profit spend PER kitten nearly 700 dollars alone before they leave my hands?  Left over funds go right back into litter, food, etc for the adults.  (that's not including health certificates, crates, beds, travel expenses etc that I do NOT charge  my clients for)

I spay/neuter, 2 sets of shots including leukemia, drontal twice, fecal sample is done before they leave as well as food, vitamins that I give them here and the moms get pre-natal check ups, and kittens are seen a number of times just for wellness check ups.

Feed extremely high quality food, and use nothing but 100% natural litters with 10 litter boxes so there is room for all and no competition for potty room.

So before YOU get up on your soap box and attempt to talk trash about me, please educate yourself on the way I do things here.  I do not fit in the normal "breeder" Mold.  I'm fine with that.  I did not start breeding to make friends.  

However I've bent backwards more than once for Teresa, answered late night destress calls, e mails about what she should do etc.   She tossed me aside when another breeder had a kitten that she wanted, and said breeder had an issue with me.  Even though Said breeder has her fair share of own issues that she's going through.

I breed because I love the breed, Devons bring joy to my life and I fully feel that anyone who is allergic to cats should have the oppertunity to be around a devon.  I spend countless hours doing Allergy test, some for even other breeders, because I want to make sure that kitten and cat matches are forever. 

Now that I have the Personality type in devons that i feel has been missing, I can start working towards other area's that I personally want to work on in my cattery.   If you keep a cat caged and only used for their sexual functions a great deal of personality is lost in translation. 


cat judge

California,
In Defense

#4Consumer Comment

Wed, October 02, 2013

I have been breeding, showing and judging Devon Rex cats for almost 30 years. In all that time I've never run across such a verbally abusive person as Melissa MacPherson - Bat Cave Cattery, who wrote this ugly report on Happy Tales Cattery. Melissa is a beginner breeder who has a Ripoff Report on her own cattery that states she mass produces kittens, and sick kittens, so much so that she has a Washington State business license:  

BAT CAVE CATTERY LLC Washington Business Name: BAT CAVE CATTERY LLC UBI: 603267483 ... more info Category: LLC State Of Incorporation: WA Date Of Incorporation: 01/14/2013 Expiration Date: 01/31/2014 Duration: Perpetual Dissolution Date: Record Status: Active Type: Profit Registered Agent Name: MELISSA MACPHERSON Registered Agent Address: 205 BRIDGEWAY Registered Agent City: EVERETT Registered Agent State: WA Registered Agent Zip: 98201 Alternate Address: Alternate City: Alternate State:

I have met Teresa at cat shows and only have good things to say about her and how she takes care of her cats. Please anyone who may read Melissa's report, take it with a grain of salt. In fact, ask Teresa straight forward.

I have known a lot of breeders in my day and not all of them get along. In fact some really don't like others at all...but with class they just avoid each other and go on about their own breeding/showing programs. Remember, we are all in this to improve and maintain the Devon Rex breed, not to worry about what your competition is doing or how much money they are making. 

 

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