On 5/31/17 I paid $697.00 to participate in the above 2 programs. Since then Shawn Buige's team formally accepted 34 surplus funds files and 159 deed flip files from me. As of date, this is the total income I have made from these submissions: $0.00
Colin
timaru,#2Consumer Comment
Tue, January 30, 2018
Hi Like this other person I too brought the deed flip and surplus funds program from Mrdeedflip I learnt the course and after doing the course did get good enough to have my files accepted I proceeded to work literally 16 hours a day for a month or so and submitted around 270 cases I have never been paid for one single file
Was it my fault ? , was there something wrong with the list I worked I dont know ! You see they dont answer those types of question I feel that they are doing some legit worrk or at least they are using the reports generated for something , and quite possibly some of the people maybe making money
The problem as I see it is that the company is run like a milatry operation , he even states this on the website , mentioning he wants an army of researchers Well the problem is I cant tell you if this is legit or not the simple fact is I cant get a single word out of them , even when I politely asked the question had any of my files been sucessful , I didnt get an answer .
I dont want to run this group down , but all Ill say is he is not a business man , and thats a big problem O by the way if you dont have an IQ well over 100 Id look elseware I have an IQ in the 140 range and I can tell you the research taxed me the average time to do a case I found was problably around 1.50 hours , sometimes you got an easy one and it was only 30 mins but alot of the time it was do 2 hours of work to find something at the end of it which would disqualify the case so you would have to throw it away .
#3Author of original report
Sat, October 21, 2017
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ShawnBuige
Concord,#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Wed, October 18, 2017
Last comment I will make: - Claims he always identifies self as attorney upfront and yet there is no mention of this in his first posting here. That's odd. Yet on sites where he can change his info, he is identified as an attorney. Coincidence I am sure. - Only an attorney could turn an offer to continue to work files or refund his purchase - both of which I offered even after he posted video and blog info of derogatory nature - into a bad thing. And the continued personal attacks is him being altruistic and caring about the public? Not a personal attack? That's laughable at best. - He says he had DUI and lost his ability to work as attorney in NC because he was going through rough personal time?
How often, during the course of a difficult personal time, do you tell people you are being followed, your phone is bugged and your computer hacked? How often? I think we've all been through hard times. I've never done that. Perhaps Mr Amin should stop playing the victim while simultaneously rejecting an offer to make him whole - even work his files after he has made derogatory video and blog posts or refunding his purchase. Mr Amin is trying, as an attorney, to pursue what to many is the new American dream - sue for his income. That makes him a petty criminal with a law degree.
#5Author of original report
Wed, October 18, 2017
Please allow me to respond briefly to each of Shawn Buige's rebuttal points:
1. Shawn implies that I have tried to conceal my status as a lawyer. This is simply not the case:
a. My attorney website and my Youtube video both disclose my status as a lawyer. Here is a link to the video and how to find the blog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjF71D-0-d8
b. On June 19th [within the first month after I signed up], I sent an email to Shawn's "right hand man", Jeff Olivia, telling him to stop sending emails to "[email protected]". Here is a quote from that email: "Please direct all future correspondence to my email address dedicated to the National Surplus Funds program: "[email protected]" . This email address is reserved for my law practice."
2. Shawn tries to discredit me with over a decade old DUI [when I was going through a divorce] and a 2004-05 NC State Bar complaint.
If you read the decision, you will note that I denied the allegations. The decison leaves out at least one very important detail. It fails to disclose that during the time period covered in the complaint, I had tried over 50 jury trials as lead counsel. When I disclosed the full facts to the State Bar of Texas, even it failed to give the NC complaint / decison any reciprocity. I have been a soilder for justice for 20 years. If you were to hire a soilder, wouldn't you want one with a few battle scars to show for his experience? Otherwise, how would you know if he had ever been in a real fight?
3. Shawn states that he has a legal right to terminate his relationship with me AND to stop working my files. This is what section 5 of his agreement actually states:
"5. SUB understands and agrees that TRT can cancel the contractor agreement at any time in TRT’s sole discretion for issues with SUB’s: work quality; ability to follow direction; conduct (adversarial, inappropriate disrespectful actions/communication). However, any files still being worked by TRT will be paid out as recoveries are made and/or when profits are realized."
Even if we assume for a moment that Shawn [somehow, even arguably] had a right to stop working with me; he did not have a right to stop working my 193 files.
4. What you should know is that Shawn recently offered to start working my files again if I would take down my public posting about his organization.
I rejected his offer and told him that my posting was for the benefit of the public. As an actively licensed attorney, I am more than capable of obtaining justice for myself without having to subvert the truth in exchange for money!
ShawnBuige
Concord,#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, October 17, 2017
Hi. My name is Shawn Buige, and this is my company. You can find our site at surplusfundsriches.com and you can see our company facebook page at facebook.com/surplusfundsriches
It is important that you understand the person who is making this complaint. This person is Mayur Amin aka Marc Amin. I believe that it is fair we identify the accuser, as he is an attorney in TX (I thought he was required to identify himself as an attorney?). He has also posted a derogatory blog on his attorney site, and a video.
I will address his complaint in depth. But before I do that, in fairness, you need to understand that Mr. Amin was told by North Carolina Bar to no longer practive law in North Carolina. The document can be found here -ncbar.gov/orders/volume%206/06019447.pdf
Please note that the document talks about Mr. Amin being transferred to disability status because of his actions in court and comments he made, in addition to having an outstanding DUI. Mr. Amin - Marc Amin aka Mayur Amin - also is quoted as saying that he was being followed, had his computer hacked, and his phone tapped.
I understand and respect that Mr. Amin has the right to say whatever he would like, and to make whatever claims he would like. I also understand that people can change, and that the above referenced incident is in the past. However, it is important to understand who has made this complaint, in totality.
Mr. Amin signed our independent contractor agreement not once but twice. A practicing attorney signed a document twice. In that document we cover the fact that we have the right to end our relationship with an independent contractor if they are not acting professionally, etc - in our sole discretion. In this case, Mr. Amin was arguing with submission attempting to turn in files that we would not accept.
We stopped working with Mr. Amin when he posted derogatory comments on a blog. We pulled all of his files out of our system when he posted derogatory video. We do not have to work with someone who is attempting to deride us, and I refuse to do that.
As for the number of files -
I have no doubt that we would have put at least one or two of those surplus files under contract. We stopped working them because we are not obligated to work files from someone that is deriding us. He has also sent a 60 day demand letter asking us for +/- $56,000. And he is such an accomplished attorney that he chooses to use ripoffreport, video posting and blog posting to take a pot shot at us. All the while not being upfront about his status as an attorney - which is, in my understanding, an ethical and State Bar 'no no'.
As for the deed flip files - unfortunately, we had to stop working Philadelphia PA files. We did this because Philadelphia was changing the auction date, and, frankly, the owners were extremely difficult to work with. This is only the third time we have stopped working an area. We stopped working Jacksonville FL years ago, and have since brought it back up. At the time, the market had not turned and it would have been a waste of time to work the area - a waste of time for us and for our researchers - since so few of the properties would have worked out, and generated profit. With 3200 Counties nationwide to work, it would be silly to work nonproductive areas and waste our time and the time of our researchers.
We stopped working Memphis TN for the same reason.
It is unfortunate that this has happened. But there is far more to the 'story', and it we believe that it is always important to consider the source. We encourage you to read the court case brought by the NC Bar against Mr. Amin, and decide for yourself whether or not you would like to believe him. ncbar.gov/orders/volume%206/06019447.pdf
We stopped working with Mr. Amin, so of course we will not put deals together for him.